Results 1 to 17 of 17

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    AR Newbie Registered Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    1

    Rogue 88 and Paradigm reference studio 100 v.3

    I have juct picked up a pair of Rogue 88 and i plan to buy a pair of Paradigm reference studio 100 v.3. The suitable amplifier power range for 100 v.3 is 15-350 watts and
    the Rogue 88 only rated at 70wpc. Since i have two Rogue 88 so i can have bi-amp set up
    ,will a pair of rogue 88 have enough power the drive a pair of 100 v.3? Are they match? Any advice?

    Please help

  2. #2
    Audiophile Wireworm5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Rupert's Land, Canada
    Posts
    496
    I used my Yamaha RX-V2200 to drive my Studio 100 v2 which sounded okay. I upgraded to a Bryston 3B-ST (120 watts) to power them and I noticed an improved performance immediately. I don't know much about the Rogue except for what I read on their website. How well they compare to a Bryston I don't know but I think two 70 watt tube amps bi-amped will do the job. I however used two other receivers I have that aren't high current and they couldn't drive the bass woofers when I used them in a bi-amp configuration.

  3. #3
    RGA
    RGA is offline
    Forum Regular
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    5,539
    What else have you heard besides the Paradigms. To me they are overpriced and lesser sounding than the $700.00Cdn cheaper B&W 604S3.

    For $1500.00Cdn at Soundhounds in Victoria you could get the Audio Note AN-K/Spe standmount. You will lose some bass depth but beyond that the K does everything else better than the 100V3.

    You need to hear them somewhere of course, rather than take my word for it, but do compare em side by side. You'll probably do what I did and laugh...it's remarkably better. The K sounds like music, the 100 sounds like hi-fi. Take your pick. You will need a superior "sounding" amplifier - if the Rogue is you'll do well I have not heard em.

    I'll be posting some reviews and the 100V3 among others from Epos, Audio Note, B&W, Wilson Audio, Dynaudio will be included.

    You're budget can do better than home theater speakers.

  4. #4
    Audiophile Wireworm5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Rupert's Land, Canada
    Posts
    496
    If you listen to soft music like Acoustic Alchemy, then a cheaper speaker such as Audio Note AN-K/sp should suffice. But if your tastes are Pop Rock,Hard Rock,Heavy Metal,Techno, Electronic or any bass heavy music. Then you want a speaker that can deliver articulate bass, can slam you in the chest,exquisite treble and is tonally accurate at higher volumes. The Paradigm Studio 100's does all this, what more could you want?

  5. #5
    RGA
    RGA is offline
    Forum Regular
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    5,539
    Well Yes the 100 does have the bass power.

    However, last years the AN J/SPe is $2500.00Cdn at Soundhounds as well. They only have it in black. But it has more dynamics and much superior bass depth and response - and unluike the Studio 100 actually sounds like real live music. And you need just 8 watts to get very loud with impeccable bass depth. What you won't get is the thin nasal sound in the midband and you won't continually feel the need that you need more and more power to drive them properly.

    This is a major problem with poorly designed speakers - always needing to put the volume up to get them to sound good and then when that finally results in a futile experience you will no doubt want to upgrade your amplifier to a more powerful one(whcih usually means a worse sounding one) and then when that fails to work you finally realize the speaker sucked all along so you either stop listening or use it for home theater. Come to Soundhounds in Victoria. Listen to the 100 versus the AN J/Spe. Other than the E listen to the J against any speaker from any brand they carry. Like most of their customers and all of their staff - my bet is you too will walk out with the AN.

    If I sound overly passionate - I must admit that is true - I'm not used to being passionate about audio products however. http://www.soundhounds.com/

  6. #6
    Audiophile Wireworm5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Rupert's Land, Canada
    Posts
    496
    Paradigm used Research obtained from The National Research Council of Canada in designing their speakers. Surely your not saying Canadian research is inferior? Because of this research they are able to produce a high quality speaker at lower costs.
    A reference cd I played to evaluate the nasel sound you discribe is War of the Worlds re-mastered copy.Here Richard Burton's voice is exactly as I've heard him in any of his movies. For HT I recently purchased Pearl Harbor for the DTS. The airplane engines sound so real you'd swear they were flying over your room. Would a poorly designed speaker exhibit this high level of detail? I think not!

  7. #7
    Forum Regular Woochifer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    SF Bay Area
    Posts
    6,883
    If you're using amp separates and biamping the speakers, those Paradigms should present no trouble whatsoever. The Studio 100's sensitivity rating is 88 db anecholic (91 db in room), which is pretty much the same as the other Studio series models. This means that in a typical room with a listening position about six to eight feet away from the speakers, those speakers will push sound levels in the low to mid-80 db range with just ONE watt of power. That decibel level is on the high side of normal listening levels, and if you want to drive the speakers to even the edge of intolerably loud, going past 90 db will require less than TEN watts. Only if you intend to go past 100 db (which can cause hearing damage) will you need anything more powerful than what you're using.

    I just looked up the Rogues and those are tube amps, and at my local Paradigm dealer I've seen the Studio 100s hooked up to Conrad-Johnson tube amps that have even less wattage than your model. I haven't heard them yet, so I can't comment on how that combo fares; but I did listen to a pair of Studio 20 v.3s hooked up to a 65 wpc Arcam amp, and that amp was fine even at very loud levels.

    The Studio 100s have more variation in the impedance than other models in the Studio series, but an amp's ability to handle that kind of load doesn't always have to do with the wattage rating per se. The Paradigm Studio series is generally very easy to drive and doesn't present a problematic load for any of the amps I've tried.

    If you're really concerned, then either bring your amps to the dealer or borrow the Studio 100s and put the speaker/amp combo through the motions using some demanding material. If you can run them just slightly higher than your normal tolerable listening level without detecting any kind of breakup, audible distotion, or other changes in the overall tonal quality, then I'd say you're fine.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Anyone A/B Paradigm Studio 20 against B&W 705??
    By newbsterv2 in forum Speakers
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 07-18-2004, 11:08 PM
  2. FS - Paradigm Studio 40's
    By nahmed in forum General Audio
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-29-2004, 12:00 PM
  3. Paradigm Studio v2 x v3
    By evln in forum Speakers
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 02-04-2004, 08:11 PM
  4. Replies: 9
    Last Post: 01-06-2004, 02:42 PM
  5. Replies: 14
    Last Post: 12-14-2003, 04:26 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •