realistic mach one speakers!!!

[Freewillisdead112]

being offered a pair for a great price in okay shape. all drivers work and they are the 4024 ones I do rekin. Will need alot of tlc and a nice soft popout of the one pushed in dust cap. (I hold on to the woofer and use a soft mode vac hose. always works for me!....anyone else do anything less chance of damage?


for a great price are these a good starter for a nice clean up and vintage 2 channel??

any input would be fantastic!

[Mr Peabody]

What do you call a great price? Depending on how you plan to listen I think the Mach One would be a decent option for starters and a lot of fun. I say this if you are looking to Rock, Rap or Pop out. If you are wanting to eke out the last detail for your money and lean toward acoustic and Jazz you can actually buy more detailed bookshelf speakers for a couple hundred bucks. I think for most people though the thrill of double 15's pumping would get the vote.

If you look on Audiogon or Craigslist you can find Adcom separates crazy cheap and it's good stuff. You strap a gfa-545 or 5400, both 125x2, to those Mach's and you will have the time of your life. You can get a preamp for probably under $150.00. If $300.00 or $400.00 is too much look around Thrift stores or Craigslist for "vintage" receivers. If you want some bass get a Kenwood at minimum but preferrable an Onkyo or Harmon Kardon. You'll see a lot of Sony, Pioneer or Technics but it was rare, if at all, any of those had any balls.

[Freewillisdead112]

70 but talking down to 50!

=]

I listen to metal music and some rock. not rap to often.

I have a old pioneer integrated from the 80's that ive had for a while that i cant seem to replace for anything these days (I havent gotten around to buying any high end stuff....but all the sony's, yamahas, pioneers, kenwoods from the 90's up ive bought recently just to see how they worked....went back within a day!)

shows how much i love my little int.

I read a thread that they were great and people were swearing over them!

i mean, for pocket change why not?

go for gold?

[Mr Peabody]

That is a good deal and you'll probably love them. You'd better snag them if the word gets out he is selling them and only for $70.00 I bet it wouldn't take long for them to be gone.

[Freewillisdead112]

think he the guy doesnt know there kinda classic. hahah

there a little beat. everything works, and i am jobless/taking a break right now so i could use a little time passer!

plus once again for the money you cant go wrong!

you think they will work okay on my 50x2?

and were these real wood or fake?

[02audionoob]

think he the guy doesnt know there kinda classic. hahah

there a little beat. everything works, and i am jobless/taking a break right now so i could use a little time passer!

plus once again for the money you cant go wrong!

you think they will work okay on my 50x2?

and were these real wood or fake?

That veneer was real walnut. It seems like Realistic speakers used to have a little sticker on them that said "oiled walnut". The 50 watts will be good enough for many people's purposes. If you like to rock and you find yourself with the opportunity to move up to 75 watts or 100, it would seem like something to consider. I haven't actually heard a pair of Mach One speakers since around 1984, but at the time they didn't seem like big power hogs.

[Freewillisdead112]

ah, so thats what the guy was talking about when he said there was a sticker on them.

Now all i gotta do is the the W.A.F. and im good to go!

I was thinking about upgrading to something more powerful and using the pioneer and my jbls (which are great for a small room) in my new bedroom and getting the oppo dvd player, which could only be better then my sony POS i have now.

I found a local ad for a adcom tuner, preamp, amp and denon cd player for 300. im waiting on the model's but they seem like the 90's ones and have the adcom redline.

It comes with the double sized amp for which i remembered was the 100-125 wpc! ??

could only help!

so for the 50-70 bucks i could have these for i should def grab them?

as long as there better then the cerwin vega ls'12's i had a little while ago, which sounded like death came thru the tweeters.

=]

[02audionoob]

The price you're considering is a steal, as long as they're in good condition. If I wanted a vintage setup for rock musc, I'd certainly give some thought to Mach One speakers. Within the realm of what they're designed to do, they're good speakers. And they look cool, too.

[Freewillisdead112]

these are the ones... besides the pushed in dust cap, they look fine to me!!

are these the originals?

[Freewillisdead112]

we are moving into a new place soon and i want a personal listening room for myself!

the woman hates the idea, and HATES wood coloring! but there classic, even the old guy outside my apartment building remembered these!

haha!

I am thinking about rotel, OLD pioneer and mcintosh for my add on's

would that be good for these

i should have them in a couple days!

I tend to download cds (I listen to mostly nothing but underground music, so its recorded bad anyways haha)

and listen to them for days and days (on my horrible jbl monitors!)

hope its a upgrade!

[02audionoob]

I don't see how you could go wrong with the Mach One speakers at 50 to 70 bucks unless they don't sound good or the cosmetic condition causes a WAF issue.

As for the Adcom gear, I've owned the GFA-535, 545 and 555 amps and the GFP-555 and 565 preamps...as well as a GCD-575 cd player and an SLC-505 passive preamp. It's all good stuff.

[Freewillisdead112]

well thats good!

Im getting to that time in my life, where its time to settle down and get a (new) place to live and a stereo worth calling home.

I always loved vintage (old) stereo stuff cuz the power and midrange effect ive felt to my ears is untouchable from new stuff until you hit a certin cash point, where im okay with, but i am a HORRIBLE saver, so if i cant get in small (cheap) piece by piece, it aint mine!

Are the horns on these going to scare me away?

my jbls have horns but, lets face it there a normal titanium tweeter in a horn shape. so its going to be a change.

will it be insane?

[Mr Peabody]

As 02, I haven't heard the Mach One in many years and my reference is different today but the horns shouldn't be a problem, as I recall the Mach sounded balanced. For your purpose and great value the Adcom is the way to go. I don't think you'd like Rotel or Mac, to me the Rotel makes music seem a bit slower pace and the Mac is warm and pleasant enough but it's going to be expensive and I think the Adcom will give you the punch and power you need. I found the larger 200x2 amps, 555 or 5500, were more smooth on the highs. In the package you are looking at, if it's the 125x2 amp you should still be fine. I think the Adcom & Mach set up will make you a happy camper.

[Freewillisdead112]

well good, i messaged the owners of both and should have them both in a couple days.

now are just plain blue jeans cable going to be fine for wiring the whole shabang?

I figured its not a top of the line system so good cables will do fine, not insane more then my house is worth speaker wire

[02audionoob]

now are just plain blue jeans cable going to be fine for wiring the whole shabang?

Absolutely. Blue Jeans Cable is good quality. If you use them, I would recommend the 12-gauge at $0.52/ft. It's their cheapest cable but it's good wire. It should do nicely for any reasonable length. It would seem logical to step up to the larger wire if you need a run over say...60 to 75 feet, but not critical.

I agree with Mr. Peabody's assessment on the Adcom equipment. My current GFA-545II is brighter than the GFA-555II that I sold several months ago. I adjusted the speaker placement to deal with that. Both amps do seem to be a good fit for the Mach One speakers.

I don't remember that horn really sounding distinctive. I agree that I remember it being a reasonably balanced speaker. I have read comments that it's a little muddy on the low end, but I suspect that's in comparison to higher quality levels...not something that would be a dealbreaker for rock music.

[Freewillisdead112]

good to know. I was going to re run all the stuff i own that came with its own wires with blue jeans cable everything. figured it would at least look nice =]

from what ive read....the 4029 was the muddy one and the 4024 was the clearer of the two. and from what ive read the 24 was the one with the good surrounds. from the pic they look perfect to me.

I just can have anything that sounds like my old cerwins. luckly i bought them for 30 and sold them for 75, so i wasnt stuck with them. but that tweeter man, just gave me head pains.

Im going to ask the guy if i can bring my stuff with me to see how it sounds. i mean if i dont like them should i buy them anyways and fix um up and find someone in audio land to buy them. seems alot of people on AK love them!

??

[Freewillisdead112]

im looking at a onkyo int. and tuner with speakers (that i will never use)

guy wants 100, but its old stuff so im thinking ima like it!

Is there anything i should do to the mach's when i get them?????

[Mr Peabody]

That looks like a decent system with good sound. However, I don't think it will give you the slam you might be wanting like the Mach/Adcom set up would. Cambridge will have the edge in clarity and detail but it isn't going to rock like the Adcom 545 or 5400. My Dyn 60's are only 86dB or so efficient and my 5400 danced them around the room and the bass was full and powerful. For no more than this system would cost you should try it.
Your Pioneer for pre
the Emo CD player
an Adcom power amp
driving the Mach's
I think when it's party time this set up will have what you need. The Cambridge you can have when you are older

Mama, let that boy play some Rock n Roll.

[Freewillisdead112]

That looks like a decent system with good sound. However, I don't think it will give you the slam you might be wanting like the Mach/Adcom set up would. Cambridge will have the edge in clarity and detail but it isn't going to rock like the Adcom 545 or 5400. My Dyn 60's are only 86dB or so efficient and my 5400 danced them around the room and the bass was full and powerful. For no more than this system would cost you should try it.
Your Pioneer for pre
the Emo CD player
an Adcom power amp
driving the Mach's
I think when it's party time this set up will have what you need. The Cambridge you can have when you are older

Mama, let that boy play some Rock n Roll.

I like the way you think

I actually was buying the machs for a bedroom two channel system!!
which was thinking about the adcom for.

The mach ones
the emo cd player
maybe forget the dvd player and play mp3's in the living room, seeing as i only listen to them to evaluate cds before i buy them anyways, if there good enough, then they get a good listen =]
and the adcom like you and a couple other kindly chimed in with!

I am trying to pawn my jbls on the guy for his machs, i wont need or want them once i have something a little cooler.

I cant buy all the fancy stuff till my new place is moved into seeing as i live in a less then 800 sq feet apt. sad i know =[

hope he trades me!

the lights are starting to go on my old pioneer, and i dont see it fit to fix it seeing its kind of a low end piece and id like to replace it sooner then later.

any good pre's?

adcom or rotel?

what about the emo pre, it looks really cool!

[harley .guy07]

I like the way you think

I actually was buying the machs for a bedroom two channel system!!
which was thinking about the adcom for.

The mach ones
the emo cd player
maybe forget the dvd player and play mp3's in the living room, seeing as i only listen to them to evaluate cds before i buy them anyways, if there good enough, then they get a good listen =]
and the adcom like you and a couple other kindly chimed in with!

I am trying to pawn my jbls on the guy for his machs, i wont need or want them once i have something a little cooler.

I cant buy all the fancy stuff till my new place is moved into seeing as i live in a less then 800 sq feet apt. sad i know =[

hope he trades me!

the lights are starting to go on my old pioneer, and i dont see it fit to fix it seeing its kind of a low end piece and id like to replace it sooner then later.

any good pre's?

adcom or rotel?

what about the emo pre, it looks really cool!

I have worked with several adcom preamps and for the most part they are very good. They did make one model that I hated and I think it was the 450. The thing had to drive in the preamp stage at all. I had to crank the heck out of it just to get moderate volume out of the Adcom amps. The other preamps they made did not have this problem.

The rotel stuff seems to be rated well but I don't have a certain model to go for.

The Emotiva brand seems to be a very popular topic nowadays and I know they are talked about all the time buy Axiom speaker owers as a very good product. Just do your homework and try to find the best unit you ca afford and will do your system good. Just stay away from the gtp 450. Its a tuner preamp. The tuner works well but I think they cut the preamp output down to about half the voltage of the other Adcom preamps. Stay away from it. If someone has a story about this model then great but at the shop I managed we tried 3 of them and all three had this issue so we quit ordering it.

I just took a look and seen some preamps on ebay and other sites from Adcom and you can get one hell of a preamp for little money used. I am not sure the prices on the Emotiva stuff but I just seen an Adcom gfp 555 preamp for a about 140 bucks and I have used this unit and know its a clean preamp. Sure there is better pre's out there but I know your like me and if the price is cheap enough and you know its a quality preamp its a good buy and you can allways upgrade later if you find something better. But at those prices your starting to jump into the higher end for the price of a minisystem. just trying to help

[Freewillisdead112]

I have worked with several adcom preamps and for the most part they are very good. They did make one model that I hated and I think it was the 450. The thing had to drive in the preamp stage at all. I had to crank the heck out of it just to get moderate volume out of the Adcom amps. The other preamps they made did not have this problem.

The rotel stuff seems to be rated well but I don't have a certain model to go for.

The Emotiva brand seems to be a very popular topic nowadays and I know they are talked about all the time buy Axiom speaker owers as a very good product. Just do your homework and try to find the best unit you ca afford and will do your system good. Just stay away from the gtp 450. Its a tuner preamp. The tuner works well but I think they cut the preamp output down to about half the voltage of the other Adcom preamps. Stay away from it. If someone has a story about this model then great but at the shop I managed we tried 3 of them and all three had this issue so we quit ordering it.

i will forsure stay away from it!

i was thinking about the emo pre cuz it has home theatre bypass! which would be cool, if i had a okay av receiver to handle the surrounds. now is there a cheap mono amp out there that would do well for center, but add more fidelity to it over the on board amp?

[harley .guy07]

i will forsure stay away from it!

i was thinking about the emo pre cuz it has home theatre bypass! which would be cool, if i had a okay av receiver to handle the surrounds. now is there a cheap mono amp out there that would do well for center, but add more fidelity to it over the on board amp?

Really the feeling I am getting from you is that music is your primary concern while home theater is a secondary. I run a yamaha htr5560 home theater receiver and its got pre outs to run my Adcom for the mains. It in my opinion makes a very good preamp for my adcom and have no problems matching levels with the center and rear channels working off the yamaha's center and rear power. If you don't have the room for a dedicated music system and dedicated theater system like I don't then incorporate the two the best you can. I am not saying that my yamy would not be beat buy Emo preamp but so far I have been rather surprised at how good the preamp section is in this unit. I even use the inboard DACs in my yamaha for my dvd/cd player and it is clean. now as far as mono amps most of the monoblocks I have come across are rather high end units with quite a bit of power for using two of them to drive some of the low sensitivity high end speakers that are out there. Finding one of these on the cheap would be a find in itself. And I think using one of these just for a center channel speaker would be overkill seeing how most of the solid state monoblocks are usually at least 300 watts if not more. There are some tube amps out there at lower wattage but using one of these just for a center amp would be overkill in my opinion. And it would ad more problems in timbre matching your speakers for theater operation. I know a lot of people that end up seperating their theater systems from there music systems due to the same problem your facing.

[Mr Peabody]

Preamps are not Rotels strong point. You can get used Adcom preamps cheap and they are pretty good. The Emo could be the best way to go but I haven't heard one to compare. Many of the Adcom preamps include tuners. Some of the NAD preamps are cheap too but I'm not sure what models are good and what to stay away from.

[Mr Peabody]

Oh, if you have a Craigslist that serves your area throw your used gear up there to see if it sells.

[Freewillisdead112]

craigslist around here doesnt sell very well with stuff that isnt new idk why. the only thingss that sell are marantz and mcintosh i swear!

I can use my pioneer till it dies. plus if i wanted to bi amp something, i could, even with a single amp. my int. doesnt have pre outs, it has headphone rca outs, which i have used before and work quite well!

for some odd reason if i run 2 pairs of 8 ohm speakers on it it looses its pep.

idk why

its a a/b