I know all ya'll dying for some more Insignia madness...

[BillyB]

...for the Studio 60s.When seated (or in my case, lying in bed :*) the tweeter is at ear level or thereabouts.

I got them from Audio Visions about 7 years ago. I bought the v2 for a bit over $1K, the latest iteration is about $1600 IIRC - getting up there. I LIKE them, but don't love 'em. They can sound very good at times, but they have some problems. I just bought a new amp for my livingroom stereo, so the Rotel separates are now powering the Paradigms. It's actually too big of a rig for my small/average sized bedroom, so I'll probably sell them. Also, a friend gave me a pair of Boston Acoustics A100s from 1980... they'll be perfect for light duty. Actually, they're very good.

Yeah, that sux about the Quads... think of ot this way - the excitement is building! I always get the feeling they don't wanna know you unless you're spending a half-mill in that store. Not everyone in there, but some. I had the same feeling buying gear at their old location over 20 years ago.

And, yup... the Insignias are now residing in my garage as well.

Enjoy the Quads (when you finally get 'em, of course!)

I had asked about the Paradigm 60S because that was my trade-in credit ($1,600) when I ordered the 22L's and Audio Den of course didn't have a pair of them either to audition.I had heard the metal dome tweeter of the Paradigm could be bright for some peoples taste and since my 703's could strip wallpaper that issue concerned me.I know all metal dome tweeters aren't bright and Paradigm does have a reputation of being a pretty good bang for the buck kind of a speaker.I'm hoping to recapture some of the magic my system used to have with my Proacs and I've noticed that the Quad and Proac names seem to come up together during some of my research.I realize that most of Proacs line is a major step up in price versus the Quads.New Proacs weren't in my price range and it seems you have to go into Manhattan to have any real chance at finding and auditioning them.I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that the 22L's are the great bang for the buck that many say they are.The 12L is what I did hear at Audio Den and I was extremely impressed with this baby brother of the floorstander.Enjoy those Boston Acoustic speakers as the price was right.

[Jimmy C]

I had asked about the Paradigm 60S because that was my trade-in credit ($1,600) when I ordered the 22L's and Audio Den of course didn't have a pair of them either to audition.I had heard the metal dome tweeter of the Paradigm could be bright for some peoples taste and since my 703's could strip wallpaper that issue concerned me.I know all metal dome tweeters aren't bright and Paradigm does have a reputation of being a pretty good bang for the buck kind of a speaker.I'm hoping to recapture some of the magic my system used to have with my Proacs and I've noticed that the Quad and Proac names seem to come up together during some of my research.I realize that most of Proacs line is a major step up in price versus the Quads.New Proacs weren't in my price range and it seems you have to go into Manhattan to have any real chance at finding and auditioning them.I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that the 22L's are the great bang for the buck that many say they are.The 12L is what I did hear at Audio Den and I was extremely impressed with this baby brother of the floorstander.Enjoy those Boston Acoustic speakers as the price was right.

...I don't feel that the tweeter is the problem, I would put the blame more on (uh, huh huh huh... I said "moron") what the midrange does on top. Having owned these for years, I feel "glare" is more of a problem than "bright" or "hot". As a matter of fact, I find my 60s a bit dark overall... not very open or resolving. Most people base their opinion from a store demo - they ususally don't work out too well. Off the top of my head, I can think of a half-dozen (more, actually) stores that carry Paradigm in our area, say, within 20 miles. Only one of them, IMO, sounds like a good demo. Are their tweeters the best on the planet? Err, no. But, I feel the speakers sound better than many give credit for. Yeah, they can thin out on crappy recordings, but so can all transducers.

I feel they are a good, solid $1K speaker that possess tradeoffs, some of which you might not be able to live with, others will feel the strenghts outweigh the negatives. Anyone who dismisses them based upon a "bright" tweeter hasn't heard them at full potential, period.

I mean, I was at Harvey's in Greenvale, listening to the Sonus Faber Cremonas, priced at $7500. THAT was an awful experience... bright, congested, blarring... you name it, they sounded like poop. It was literally and honestly w-a-y worse than the Insignias sound...lol... kid you not. Does that mean it's a terrible speaker? No, it means the idiots there don't know how to do a demo. Or, as it was, turn the volume knob down a bit! The Concertos in the next room sounded MUCH better.

I know, I want to go into the City to check out some of the "big boys". Then again, from what I hear, maybe not :*) I'm not made of money, and I certainly would want to be treated the same way whether I was or not. Actually, I'm certainly not referring to all of them, just one :*)

That, plus after busting my azz at work, I'm flat-out too lazy...lol. I'm a homebody - listen to music, watch TV, cook, BBQ with friends, a show once in a while at the Beach... that's enough for me. I'll leave the traffic in NYC (as well as the other end - Southampton) to all that MUST to go there...

[BillyB]

[QUOTE=Jimmy C]...I don't feel that the tweeter is the problem, I would put the blame more on (uh, huh huh huh... I said "moron") what the midrange does on top. Having owned these for years, I feel "glare" is more of a problem than "bright" or "hot". As a matter of fact, I find my 60s a bit dark overall... not very open or resolving. Most people base their opinion from a store demo - they ususally don't work out too well. Off the top of my head, I can think of a half-dozen (more, actually) stores that carry Paradigm in our area, say, within 20 miles. Only one of them, IMO, sounds like a good demo. Are their tweeters the best on the planet? Err, no. But, I feel the speakers sound better than many give credit for. Yeah, they can thin out on crappy recordings, but so can all transducers.

I feel they are a good, solid $1K speaker that possess tradeoffs, some of which you might not be able to live with, others will feel the strenghts outweigh the negatives. Anyone who dismisses them based upon a "bright" tweeter hasn't heard them at full potential, period.

I mean, I was at Harvey's in Greenvale, listening to the Sonus Faber Cremonas, priced at $7500. THAT was an awful experience... bright, congested, blarring... you name it, they sounded like poop. It was literally and honestly w-a-y worse than the Insignias sound...lol... kid you not. Does that mean it's a terrible speaker? No, it means the idiots there don't know how to do a demo. Or, as it was, turn the volume knob down a bit! The Concertos in the next room sounded MUCH better.

I know, I want to go into the City to check out some of the "big boys". Then again, from what I hear, maybe not :*) I'm not made of money, and I certainly would want to be treated the same way whether I was or not. Actually, I'm certainly not referring to all of them, just one :*)

That, plus after busting my azz at work, I'm flat-out too lazy...lol. I'm a homebody - listen to music, watch TV, cook, BBQ with friends, a show once in a while at the Beach... that's enough for me. I'll leave the traffic in NYC (as well as the other end - Southampton) to all that MUST to go there...[/QUOTE

Interesting about the midrange isssue you mentioned on the 60S.There's simply no doubt in my mind that the FST midrange on my 703's was the harshness problem.The tube loaded nautilus alloy dome tweeter was actually a nice tweeter but the mids on this speaker were excruciating in my room with vocals being so in your face that listening fatigue doesn't even begin to explain it.The scary thing is my equipment and cables are very respectable so I shouldn't need the "perfect" speaker to have a nice sound.While that would be great I don't think it should be mandatory for a system to sound somewhat pleasing.Oh well I'm 703 bashing again but the strange thing is I think B&W's 600 series at less than 1/2 the price of the 700 series are very respectable.I could have originally bought the 603's and saved about $1,700 and a lot of heartache.Live and Learn.Your comment about the Sonus Faber speakers vs the Insignias was hysterical even though I know it wasn't intended to be.Once I have the 22L's broken in I'll check in again.