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    Some people have so much cash it's incredible. You could buy a house for that.
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    If I had $250,000 to blow, I'd spend it on a Ferrari, but that's just me

    I don't care how much money you have or how big of an audiophile you are, there is no way to justify spending a quarter of a million dollars on speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis
    If I had $250,000 to blow, I'd spend it on a Ferrari, but that's just me

    I don't care how much money you have or how big of an audiophile you are, there is no way to justify spending a quarter of a million dollars on speakers.
    I don't care how much money you have or how big of a car lover you are, there is no way to justify spending a quarter of a million dollars on a car.


    Somewhere a pot and a kettle are arguing...

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    kettles > pots

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    When I was in the Philippines there were children in the streets covered with dirt and ripped cloths begging for pennies at every stoplight. $20 there is a full week's pay and can feed a family of 6 for a month. They would probably say that there is no way anyone could have enough money to waist the $600 I spent on my front mains. And they would never understand the need to have a 7.1 system. Why would you need more than 2 speakers?
    If I was a billionare I might look into those speakers. After I had fed a small country first though.
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    Yes there are certainly more important things in the world than stereo gear. Hopefully the company that sold the speakers donates some of the cash.

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    That said...

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    GMichael

    Yes there are certainly more important things in the world than stereo gear. Hopefully the company that sold the speakers donates some of the cash.
    Is there really an audible difference between $150,000 and $250,000 speakers? Because that extra $100K could feed a whole lot of people.

    I think at these prices, the differences are not in quality, but in personality. The speaker might sound different and we can tell ourselves that this is because of an extra $100K. But the reality is that this difference is purely one of distinction between manufacturers and/or models and certainly says nothing about one speaker being better than the other. The same difference could be pointed out between $500 Polk speakers and the same configuration $400 Energy speakers.

    Maybe it should be considered obscene that a $250K speaker, or a $400K amp, or a $40K speaker cable is manufactured for the public at all. I can see that for research purposes there might be a need, but for the public?

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    If people will pay, they will make them. Why does a man swinging a bat at a ball for a living make millions? Because people will pay. Right or wrong, it's what is. But I still wouldn't mind hearing those bad boys just once.
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    Wink Now you're talking!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    Is there really an audible difference between $150,000 and $250,000 speakers? Because that extra $100K could feed a whole lot of people.

    I think at these prices, the differences are not in quality, but in personality.
    Truer words were never spoken. I'd love to see some "double blind tests" featuring a $10,000
    versus say a $100,000 speaker and see if folks can consistently pick between the two and which they prefer....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    Is there really an audible difference between $150,000 and $250,000 speakers? Because that extra $100K could feed a whole lot of people.

    I think at these prices, the differences are not in quality, but in personality. The speaker might sound different and we can tell ourselves that this is because of an extra $100K. But the reality is that this difference is purely one of distinction between manufacturers and/or models and certainly says nothing about one speaker being better than the other. The same difference could be pointed out between $500 Polk speakers and the same configuration $400 Energy speakers.

    Maybe it should be considered obscene that a $250K speaker, or a $400K amp, or a $40K speaker cable is manufactured for the public at all. I can see that for research purposes there might be a need, but for the public?
    yes there will be an audible difference -- whether it's better or not is another matter...but really that applies to every price range not just pricey one. I'll take my sepaker which retails for $3575.00 over the Wilson Sophia ~$12,000.00 or the B&W 801 ~$11,000.00US among others. Speaker companies have a house sound -- if you like the house sound then that;s what you want to buy. If you don;t like the B&W sound it doesn;t matter if they make a $50 million speaker because if it still sounds like B&W a person not liking B&W isn;t going to like it period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    When I was in the Philippines there were children in the streets covered with dirt and ripped cloths begging for pennies at every stoplight. $20 there is a full week's pay and can feed a family of 6 for a month. They would probably say that there is no way anyone could have enough money to waist the $600 I spent on my front mains. And they would never understand the need to have a 7.1 system. Why would you need more than 2 speakers?
    If I was a billionare I might look into those speakers. After I had fed a small country first though.
    Oh, jeez. Now I feel like sh!t. Why do I need any speakers? I'm gonna sell all my gear and start making music for myself with found objects. Hubcaps and paper cups. I'll be doing the environment a favor. The soundstage and authenticity of my own drummings will surpass that of any bourgeois studio recording presented through non-biodegradable, luxury electronics. Then, at last, I'll be able to live off the grid and devote more time to growing organic vegetables for orphans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noddin0ff
    Oh, jeez. Now I feel like sh!t. Why do I need any speakers? I'm gonna sell all my gear and start making music for myself with found objects. Hubcaps and paper cups. I'll be doing the environment a favor. The soundstage and authenticity of my own drummings will surpass that of any bourgeois studio recording presented through non-biodegradable, luxury electronics. Then, at last, I'll be able to live off the grid and devote more time to growing organic vegetables for orphans.
    Well I think it would be a decent idea to move at least somewhat in the direction you state...unless your Republican and then screw and rape the world for a buck right?

    I don't think you have to tune out of society -- If one lives in the west then we play by the west's rules to a point. I don't think we can live guilty all of the time - that said I think everyone can do their part and not buy from what i call the EVIL EMPIRE companies like NIKE and FORD and KFC and a boatload of others. Buying things makes the economy go -- but one can choose whom one is going to buy from.

    I think we simply need to leave a smaller footprint on the world when and where possible.

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    Oh RGA, you still only read reviews and are in the hands of AN. Listen to Stax Electrostatics 83 or the Apogee's and then listen to real life music and you will easily see why that full blown room node enchancing, colored and different sounding drivers AN will give you many things exept reality.
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    unless your Republican and then screw and rape the world for a buck right?
    oh come on thats totally inappropriate. leave comments like that to the off-topic forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noddin0ff
    Oh, jeez. Now I feel like sh!t. Why do I need any speakers? I'm gonna sell all my gear and start making music for myself with found objects. Hubcaps and paper cups. I'll be doing the environment a favor. The soundstage and authenticity of my own drummings will surpass that of any bourgeois studio recording presented through non-biodegradable, luxury electronics. Then, at last, I'll be able to live off the grid and devote more time to growing organic vegetables for orphans.
    Ha ha ha.. You may laugh but I really felt that way when I got back home. It took me awhile to not feel guilty everytime I bought something for myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Ha ha ha.. You may laugh but I really felt that way when I got back home. It took me awhile to not feel guilty every time I bought something for myself.
    I only half-laugh...and I have problems controlling my sarcasm. We live such a privileged life, I sometimes feel guilty buying a double-cheese burger at McD on their dollar menu. It's such a throw away amount of money here, $1. But that buys more food than too many people see in a day. I just thought it was funny that 7.1 elicited guilt but not 2.0. I was wondering were the breaking point was... 3.0...4.1...6.0... (ooops, sarcasm again.)

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    not buy from what i call the EVIL EMPIRE companies like NIKE and FORD and KFC
    KFC? Evil? Was there a bone in your chicken popcorn? The slaughter of innocent poultry? Why not FOX or the RNC?

    There's a lot of poor people who wouldn't have been able to afford a decent pair of shoes if there wasn't a Nike making them cheaply. And although I think Nike can do more to improve working conditions, people choose to work there because it's their best option, which is sad.

    And just think of all the open spaces we can build low-rent apartments in because we don't have to use the fields for raising horses! Thank you, Ford!

    [disclaimer-Comments were not tested on laboratory animals, take offense at you own risk. For humor purposes only]

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    I don't care how much money you have or how big of a car lover you are, there is no way to justify spending a quarter of a million dollars on a car.


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    Sorry, but in this situation, a Ferrari is clearly > $250,000 speakers.

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