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    Cool Hey guys...











    sorry for the bad pics, I used the bad cam, hi-res pictures are coming soon

    and man, this rocks, my denon has (against all my expectancies) no real troubles driving the 4 advents, soundstage is huge, lots and lots and lots of sound, a nice bass increase, while not becoming too much, great imaging, crisp highs, smooth mids, what more can one want?

    a more detailed review is coming later too (together with the hi-res pics, most likely tomorrow).

    Now keep them spinning!
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    You crazy fool......I LOVE IT.

    Looks like reforming went smoothly.

    Happy Listening,

    JRA

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    Everything is looking good. Advents were my first quality speakers when I was in college in the mid 70's. A few friends had stacked Advents and I remember how great they sounded. Congratulations.
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    thanks,

    replacing the sphynx woofers could be (read as: most likely will be ) something for this summer vacation, big chance that I'll refinish the other pair too, and give them a nice recap & rewire too so they match exactly to the 'new' pair
    the sphynxes will then be put away, or used as a 'reinforcement' since they take slightly more power than the original advent woofers.

    anyways,
    the finish worked out suprisingly good,
    first we sanded the cabinets 1 layer of varnish with a few drips of paint, so you get coloured varnish, and then 5 extra layers of completely transparent varnish, they're nice & soft now

    this is when they were just sanded:



    all the dust was removed from the sanding, then they were varnished.

    this is a more detailed shot of the finish:



    and another complete system shot:



    it definately sounds better with both pairs playing together, sound is really big, just like a wall (ok, alot of you guys have a real wall of sound) of sound coming to you. Also, music becomes more natural, and more 'live' the mids are coming out much better, highs are less stressed, and that bass

    Update: dad just let me know that when I pass this year (for school, that is) I'll get a new pair of woofers (new original ones, like the ones from simplyspeakers or so) for free

    Keep them rocking
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    You've made it.....

    ......congrats.

    Bert, well done, and kudos to you for doing such a great job. And with the promise of new original woofers yet to come. Well you know what to do. Study,study, study.

    But friend, most of all enjoy the music coming from the stacked pair.

    Peace

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    Thanks again,
    it took a long time, but yes, I made it ...

    Cheers,
    and keep them spinning,
    Bert.
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    Marantz CD5001 OSE
    MIT AVt 2 IC's
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    I'm a happy 20 year old...

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    Great job, and thanks for the cool pics.

    So what's next?
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    a beefy amp, probably

    most likely a parasound Halo A23...


    ...


    ...and the pair of woofers, and new cables, and refinishing the other pair of advents...
    Life is music!

    Mcintosh MA6400 Integrated
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    *DIY Lenco L75 TT
    * SME 3012 S2
    * Rega RB-301
    *Denon DL-103 in midas body
    *Denon DL-304
    *Graham slee elevator EXP & revelation
    *Lehmann audio black cube SE
    Marantz CD5001 OSE
    MIT AVt 2 IC's
    Sonic link Black earth IC's
    Siltech MXT New york IC's
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    I'm a happy 20 year old...

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    Good choice. This baby is on my future list also.

    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=2PAHA23
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    Enjoy!

    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    and man, this rocks, my denon has (against all my expectancies) no real troubles driving the 4 advents, soundstage is huge, lots and lots and lots of sound, a nice bass increase, while not becoming too much, great imaging, crisp highs, smooth mids, what more can one want?
    So long as the amp is happy with a 4 ohm load (min 2.6), then you are actually running it at a lower power output for a given level (you picked up 6 db efficiency increase using doubles.).

    Thirty five years after their introduction, they are still capable of great results. Hopefully, you'll have a chance to put them in a larger room and hear what they are really capable of doing.

    rw

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Good choice. This baby is on my future list also.

    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=2PAHA23

    you lucky bastards!

    we have to pay €1200 for that here in belgium

    anyhow, definately let us know how you like it when you get it

    Keep them spinning,
    Bert.
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    Mcintosh MA6400 Integrated
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    Thiel CS2.3's
    *DIY Lenco L75 TT
    * SME 3012 S2
    * Rega RB-301
    *Denon DL-103 in midas body
    *Denon DL-304
    *Graham slee elevator EXP & revelation
    *Lehmann audio black cube SE
    Marantz CD5001 OSE
    MIT AVt 2 IC's
    Sonic link Black earth IC's
    Siltech MXT New york IC's
    Kimber 4VS speakercable
    Furutech powercord and plugs.

    I'm a happy 20 year old...

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    you lucky bastards!

    we have to pay 1200 for that here in belgium

    anyhow, definately let us know how you like it when you get it

    Keep them spinning,
    Bert.
    I may be old and gray by time that... Oh.... make that, older and grayer before I finally fill my order.
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    Ha, someone was telling me about stacking my speakers like that for the first time yesterday.

    I have a pair of B&W 601's and 602's, think I should do it?

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    I don't think that would make such an enourmous difference, you could try, but first of all, what are you driving them with? B&W's have some serious independance swings...
    Life is music!

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    Marantz CD5001 OSE
    MIT AVt 2 IC's
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    I'm a happy 20 year old...

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    I don't think that would make such an enourmous difference, you could try, but first of all, what are you driving them with? B&W's have some serious independance swings...
    You are killing me. Do you mean impedance swings?
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    crap, I knew I was going to type it wrong, thanks for telling me
    Life is music!

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    I'm a happy 20 year old...

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    No problem Evil Master. I am an independant swinger as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    I don't think that would make such an enourmous difference, you could try, but first of all, what are you driving them with? B&W's have some serious independance swings...

    Please to explain.

    I am running them through an old Yamaha Rx 353 (?) integrated amp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coastrat
    Please to explain.

    I am running them through an old Yamaha Rx 353 (?) integrated amp.
    What he means is, that although they are rated at 8 ohms (not sure if this is true or if it's 6 or 4) that they are not at 8 ohms all the way through the 20 to 20k frequency range. At some frequencies they will dip lower. Some amps have no problem with these dips. Others do. Some would fizzle and smoke.
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    That's a gouge

    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    you lucky bastards!

    we have to pay 1200 for that here in belgium

    anyhow, definately let us know how you like it when you get it

    Keep them spinning,
    Bert.
    Bert, congrats on your terrific work with the Advents.

    As for the A23, yeah, 1200 Euros is away too expensive for this amp given other options in that price range. Don't know why Parasound is so greed, or more likely, why they tolerate their foreign distributors gouging in this manner. If it's any comfort, the Parasounds are similarily over priced here in Canada.

    But say! Looking for a bargain power amp? I'll tell you what's tempting me: it's this AudioSource model that this guy is flogging on eBay at the moment, (he has quite a few for sale). This is unit is a Tripath digital amp -- same technology as, e.g., the Bel Canto eVo2 which cost US$3000. I had a Bel Canto eVo2i integrate which was a very fine amp indeed. ....
    I guess the rub for you would b that it's no doubt 120V.

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    that's a really nice price!

    and I probably would have bought it when I liked digital amps, but they're just not my thing...
    if I can't afford the parasound, I could also buy a rotel RB-1070, and double that later on (run them bridged), I also saw some nice used stuff lately, they could be it too when I don't have enough money...
    but still: yes, parasound is greedy...

    Keep them spinning,
    Bert.
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    I'm a happy 20 year old...

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    that's a really nice price!

    and I probably would have bought it when I liked digital amps, but they're just not my thing...
    if I can't afford the parasound, I could also buy a rotel RB-1070, and double that later on (run them bridged), I also saw some nice used stuff lately, they could be it too when I don't have enough money...
    but still: yes, parasound is greedy...

    Keep them spinning,
    Bert.
    Dude, nothing against Parasound, but the reason they are on my list is that they are affordable quality. You must have something over there that would be more affordable, that I would have picked if it weren't so expensive here.
    Just a thought. What brands are made out your way? NAD?
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    rotel prices are reasonable here, primare isn't more expensive than it is in the USA, but they're still pretty expensive, nad is an option, but I'd rather pick a rotel then...

    thing is that the parasound is better than the rotel, so if I had the money, I'd buy the parasound, and if I don't, and the rotel doesn't impress me enough, I'd save for the parasound...
    then there also is Vincent, beefy amps, but I hear some bad stuff about them, although the sp-331 looks darn tempting...

    another reason why I want the parasound is that it haves xlr inputs, which might become useful later on, which is when I replace the denon.

    Keep them spinning,
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    MIT AVt 2 IC's
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    I'm a happy 20 year old...

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    Super Job! Stacked advents are an excellent vintage set up. Also, Very nice woodworking.
    It's great to see vintage speaks reborn, Hang in there with the school thing.
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    Looks awesome!

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