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    And...... we're off.

    Bose lover is come up on the outside..
    Bose hater pushes him aside and laughs..
    Impartial spectator is trying to follow...
    'Lover pulls ahead..
    'Hater runs him over..
    Dust is everywhere..
    I can't see a thing..
    Wait! I see now..
    'Lover is face first in the dirt..
    'Hater is driving his head into the turnstile..
    Impartial spectator is left standing there wondering what to do..
    Who's this coming now?
    It's.. it's.. Magnepan and A.N. flying past with their tongues sticking out...
    And the winner is....
    WARNING! - The Surgeon General has determined that, time spent listening to music is not deducted from one's lifespan.

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    And the winner is Apogee Acoustics rising from the grave with the new supersound booster

    By the way, the article is quite good.
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian

    By the way, the article is quite good.
    I read it. I agree. It covered everything very well. But a Bose lover would never get past the begining.

    By the way, I do really have a Bose system in my car, and I really do like it. But I can also tell that it's not the ultimate in sound. It's good. But that's it. My Infinity's sound much better, and they are only "good."
    WARNING! - The Surgeon General has determined that, time spent listening to music is not deducted from one's lifespan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    By the way, I do really have a Bose system in my car, and I really do like it. But I can also tell that it's not the ultimate in sound. It's good. But that's it. My Infinity's sound much better, and they are only "good."

    You're right. I had an Audi A6 with the Bose/Navigation system. It was very nice. Certainly the best factory system I've ever had. But, I know some car company recently started putting Mark Levinson products in, and I think Chyrsler is using Boston Acoustics. I haven't heard those. But the Bose car systems do seem to be a different animal from their home audio counterparts.

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    Different expectations in cars

    Quote Originally Posted by SlumpBuster
    You're right. I had an Audi A6 with the Bose/Navigation system. It was very nice. Certainly the best factory system I've ever had. But, I know some car company recently started putting Mark Levinson products in, and I think Chyrsler is using Boston Acoustics. I haven't heard those. But the Bose car systems do seem to be a different animal from their home audio counterparts.
    Our cars are whole different animals and come with an entirely different set of expectations. Wind roar, tire noise, and exhaust thrum combined with hellish acoustics all conspire to make the interior of a car one of the most difficult places to achieve good sound. My wife has a Bose system in her SUV and it sounds pretty good...for an OEM system. It has decent, if boomy, bass but still lacks clarity in the upper mids and treble. You know, typical Bose. Honestly, the Infinity Gold system I had in my Jeep GC back in the '90's killed it. That said, both are still worlds better than the travesty of a stereo BMW somehow deemed worthy for my current car. It is, in a word, sh!t.

    Lexus has offered ML systems in their cars from the brand's inception in the early '90's. I've heard it in the LS430, SC430, and the latest GS430 (I have a lot of friends into Lexus). It's quite good, although every one seems tipped a bit hot to me. Odd, considering Lexus' rep for coffin quiet interiors. Volvo offers Dynaudio systems which are superb and Aston Martin now has Linn systems for a mere $4750(!) upgrade. To date, the best OEM car system I've heard is the ESL/Panny DVD-A system in the Acura TL. To me, it has the best balance combined with the most cohesive presentation. To this day I can't understand why they have the ESL in the TL yet put a Bose in the flagship RL .

    One last thing, while I despise DSP in home audio, it is almost mandatory to correctly deal with the wacko acoustics inside a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspeed
    One last thing, while I despise DSP in home audio, it is almost mandatory to correctly deal with the wacko acoustics inside a car.
    You need to hear the new NHT Xd system, with an open mind, before you categorically dismiss prudent use of DSP. These are amazing speakers...

    J

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    Digital room correction can improve the sound in a home audio system. But DSP can not make a bad speaker sound good. Some speakers are very difficult to work with and correct dips, but you can squeeze some good sound out of them. I had a Digital Room Correction device myself from Tact Audio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrClean
    You need to hear the new NHT Xd system, with an open mind, before you categorically dismiss prudent use of DSP. These are amazing speakers...

    J
    Allow me to clarify: DSP for room (or the interior of the car) correction is good. DSP for "recreating" the acoustics of the 3rd stall in the men's restroom of Yankee Stadium is bad.

    Capeesh?

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    And the winner is.....

    why Paradigm of course!!!


    lmao....."no highs....no lows....it MUST be Bose"


    sorry couldn't help meself...lmao



    great thread

    Pogue


    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    And...... we're off.

    Bose lover is come up on the outside..
    Bose hater pushes him aside and laughs..
    Impartial spectator is trying to follow...
    'Lover pulls ahead..
    'Hater runs him over..
    Dust is everywhere..
    I can't see a thing..
    Wait! I see now..
    'Lover is face first in the dirt..
    'Hater is driving his head into the turnstile..
    Impartial spectator is left standing there wondering what to do..
    Who's this coming now?
    It's.. it's.. Magnepan and A.N. flying past with their tongues sticking out...
    And the winner is....
    • Mark Levinson No. 27
    • Musical Fidelity 308cr
    • Martin Logan Prodigy's
    • Ariel Acoustics 10-T
    • Rega Planet CD
    • CJ Premier 9 DAC
    • Linn LP12 - Basik Plus - Valhalla
    • Benz Micro Cart.
    • Akai GX 747 Reel to Reel
    • Straight Wire Virtuoso Interconnects

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    Well to be honest, it is impossible for a BOSE to turn out anything but funny.

    -Flo
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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