Full Review of the new B&W 800D

[theaudiohobby]

While i still think that only the people who own this kind of equipment have the right to pass judgment correctly.

Nope, You do not need to own another 20K speaker to correctly judge the sound quality of similar priced speakers.

[Florian]

Well thats were i disagree. You need to spend time with a component and try it in your own room with different electronics in order to pass judgement. By liking a lower end model , one cannot state that the higer model is better. The Nautilus 800 which is a fine speaker, sounds very different from a 700 series. It also requires much higher electronics to sound good. I just think that if you dont run equipment like a Nautilus 802, VMPS RM40/RMX, Maggie 3.6 or big Dynaudio etc... you are not able to correctly judge systems of this caliper.

-Flo

[kexodusc]

Florian, you're making no sense at all... If you are incapable of judging gear unless you already own similarly performing gear, how in the hell could you ever be confident you are upgrading your system? How would you ever buy a speaker in of a higher level than you already have?
Gonna take audiophile recommendations at face-value? Yeah right...

[Florian]

Either its a language barrier that i cant brake or i am simply an idiot today. I will just stop for now.

-Flo

[RGA]

You know this thread has made me realize why I stopped posting on Rottentomatoes.com -- It's fun to argue about movies and speakers because they are subjective responses to what we see experience and in audio hear(though we also see and experience it).

There is one golden rule -- never assume that just because it costs more it's better. And if there is a secondary rule it would be -- Even if it is better is it better enough towarrant the price.

I recently heard the Wilson Sophia loudspeakers which retail for $16k Cdn and while they were very listenable and well done I can tell you that there is no way on earth I would trade my speakers for them because the Sophia in my listening just isn't as well integrated and doesn't do the job for me. There are lots of folks though who swear by the Sophia...who's right is who is holding the cheque at the time.

I understand panel fans because panesl tend to sound very different dfrom everything else -- but lots of people have heard panels who don't like them and this is true for every speaker.

[Peter Duminy]

Quote from RGA:

You know this thread has made me realize why I stopped posting on Rottentomatoes.com


We could always start a new Forum - RottenVoicecoils.net

[StanleyMuso]

You may be entitled to your opinions, just like the rest of us. But just because you are the moderator, you need to show a little more respect, be a little more tolerant, understanding and less insulting. I read these columns often, but don't post frequently, but this time I felt compelled to put in my little bit. Your assumptions upset me considerably. How can you be so dogmatic? Has money gone to your head? Or is it that famous Germanic arrogance we often hear about? I hope not, because I have a lot of German friends and none of them are like that.

Expensive does not necessarily mean "good". I have listened to a lot of high end stuff over the long years I have been impassioned by this hobby (and from other posters I would presume that its been over a longer period than you have been alive), and I can tell you, even stratospherically priced stuff has often left me feeling cold and uninvolved. And I buy stuff for my own satisfaction, and not for bragging rights. If you buy it for bragging rights, you must be really insecure, and perhaps a good psychologist could help you. I notice you often brag about the expense of your equipment in your posts. Does the expense of your stuff make you feel that you are better than the rest of us? If that is so, you suffer from a poverty of spirit.

[theaudiohobby]

Florian, you're making no sense at all... If you are incapable of judging gear unless you already own similarly performing gear, how in the hell could you ever be confident you are upgrading your system? How would you ever buy a speaker in of a higher level than you already have?Gonna take audiophile recommendations at face-value? Yeah right...

The point exactly.