I gotcha now. I have been doing a few "projects" this summer, and I don't think a subwoofer is going to make it this year! It would be fun to try one sometime. The more I read up on the Orb subwoofer, the more I am liking that thing. I like the concept, especially mirrored to those speakers. A more musical 8" sub (that still seems to reach pretty low) is more appealing to me than a 12" or 15" that can shake the house and peel paint. I don't need that or want it. I also like the size of the Orb sub, 12" box, pretty cool for my needs in this room. It looks nice too, something the Daytons certainly lack.