thanks for the links, but I've looked at that section before and it's all way over my head.; not to mention it's a funny setup that I can't figure out; is it a forum, a message board, a randomly placed message center? Nothing makes sine to me, I click on a "post" and get even more links! Not exactly a friendly area to read things in.

i also tried looking at the DIY bookshelf speakers, but all the bookshelf ones use parts that are discontinued now