Let me ask you this. I too, like the b and w sound, but find them a little bright. I am inclined to buy from my dealer, so that I can get a new speaker and hear it first. He is really the only hifi dealer around and has helped me out a lot. Hence my loyalty to him. He only sells b and w though. If I was to buy either the 685 or the cm1, will pairing the speakers I choose with warmer equipment ( marantz 8001) make the speakers sound warmer, or is the only real way to get warm sound by starting with a warm speaker to begin with.