Anyone have experience with this brand?

[darrinps]

I reserved judgment for a moment, but my radar was going off when I first saw this post a couple days ago. Shill.

Inwall garage speakers? Two unequivocal "no" answers, and "Well, I'm gonna try them anyway, because they look so good." At least shill is better than spam.

Anyone wanna bet what the verdict is going to be when he "reports back" his findings?

At least this guy's at customer service.

Well, it's a good thing you reserved judement, because I am in no way affiliated with Acoustic Audio or the seller. I've been a member here for many years...I just had to sign back up because I took a year or so off.

For example, here I am back in 2002 reviewing a set of AR 2062s I used in a home theater setup: http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speak...0_4290crx.aspx


And here in 2001 talking about my (then) sub $4000 HT setup: http://archive.audioreview.com/07/0EE99D36.php

As far as what the other two "reviewers" said, if you would read closely, you would see that neither one had experience with these speakers. One was thinking that it would be better to look elsewhere at the $50 price range (again, I think I can get these 10-20 less than that) and the other was just kidding.

If they sound like crap then that is what I will report. If they sound fine then I'll report that too, but in either case I'll give an HONEST opinion...just like I did years ago.

Maybe next time you won't be so quick to judge.

[filecat13]

Actually, I'm not kidding. You're going to get a $40 screwing.

[darrinps]

Actually, I'm not kidding. You're going to get a $40 screwing.

Just how do you know?

Have you bought these and not mentioned it?

I imagine the first set of every new speaker (including the good ones) that hits the market are met with skepticism but you never know the good from the bad until someone steps up and reports on the things. I was hoping that someone already had done this, but since no one seems to have done so, $30 or $40 isn't going to exactly break the bank!

Anyway, we'll know soon enough.

[filecat13]

Just how do you know?

Have you bought these and not mentioned it?

I imagine the first set of every new speaker (including the good ones) that hits the market are met with skepticism but you never know the good from the bad until someone steps up and reports on the things. I was hoping that someone already had done this, but since no one seems to have done so, $30 or $40 isn't going to exactly break the bank!

Anyway, we'll know soon enough.

How do I know? I don't need to do something stupid to know that it's stupid. I've never jumped off a bridge, but I know it's a dumb idea. I've never had $5000 surgery done by someone who said he'd do it for $150. I've never sent money to someone I don't know who promised me a great product that I'd never heard of in an industry that's replete with scammers and rip-off artists who prey on naive consumers and who showed me one picture and promised me I'm getting hundreds of dollars in value for less than $50.

IOW, if you're determined to run head first into a brick wall, don't come here and ask us if you should do it, and when we tell you "No, you shouldn't," get all uppity with us and say that since we didn't run into a brick wall ourselves, who are we to tell you not to do it.

Just buy the darn things and either keep silent that you really bought some crappy speakers and wasted your money, or come back and tell us how we're all fools and you are the first person ever who bought into something like this and got just the best product ever. We'll totally believe you.

[darrinps]

How do I know? I don't need to do something stupid to know that it's stupid. I've never jumped off a bridge, but I know it's a dumb idea.

So you've never bought a lottery ticket? Never taken a chance at anything at all? I'm not exactly risking the family farm here!

IOW, if you're determined to run head first into a brick wall, don't come here and ask us if you should do it, and when we tell you "No, you shouldn't," get all uppity with us and say that since we didn't run into a brick wall ourselves, who are we to tell you not to do it.

If someone who had actually listened to the things said not to buy them, I would listen...but when someone just says they must be crap because they are inexpensive then that doesn't amount to too much.

Just buy the darn things and either keep silent that you really bought some crappy speakers and wasted your money, or come back and tell us how we're all fools and you are the first person ever who bought into something like this and got just the best product ever. We'll totally believe you.

Well I ended up doing just that and paid about $29 total including shipping for the things. They arrived the other day and I'm niether shocked nor amazed so far. The speakers themselves look like good quality components and the housing is actually fairly nice (just like most other brands with six screw down clamps). In fact, just looking at them from the front you could see the things selling for as much as a low-mid range in wall. The cross over however looks inexpensive and the metal faceplate has some foam backing taped to it which you can tell was cut by hand...of course this doesn't need to stay there so no harm done.

Anyway, as I no longer have other in-walls to compare them too, I haven't listened to them yet, but I'll try to hunt down something in the low-mid range and see how these stack up then I'll post back along with some pictures of the things.

[tdst]

How do I know? I don't need to do something stupid to know that it's stupid. I've never jumped off a bridge, but I know it's a dumb idea. I've never had $5000 surgery done by someone who said he'd do it for $150. I've never sent money to someone I don't know who promised me a great product that I'd never heard of in an industry that's replete with scammers and rip-off artists who prey on naive consumers and who showed me one picture and promised me I'm getting hundreds of dollars in value for less than $50.

IOW, if you're determined to run head first into a brick wall, don't come here and ask us if you should do it, and when we tell you "No, you shouldn't," get all uppity with us and say that since we didn't run into a brick wall ourselves, who are we to tell you not to do it.

Just buy the darn things and either keep silent that you really bought some crappy speakers and wasted your money, or come back and tell us how we're all fools and you are the first person ever who bought into something like this and got just the best product ever. We'll totally believe you.

EEGADS!! Nice friendly forum, huh? Try AudioKarma.org. They're a little friendlier, and just a touch more helpful. I hope your speakers sound great.

[filecat13]

EEGADS!! Nice friendly forum, huh? Try AudioKarma.org. They're a little friendlier, and just a touch more helpful. I hope your speakers sound great.

Good advice. Enjoy!

[SlumpBuster]

here I am back in 2002

And here in

So what? Here I am back in 1976. Doesn't prove anything.



Yes, mom. Yes, it did feel good.

[darrinps]

So what? Here I am back in 1976. Doesn't prove anything.

It shows I've been here for six years and while it is possible that I could have a connection with the seller (which I don't) you would think that at least someone who has been here that long would get the benefit of the doubt...but some folks are just born critics I guess.

All I wanted to know is if anyone had experience with these speakers before I bought them and you accused me of being a shill...now I remember why I took that time off from here.

Anyway, I'll post back what I find out when I get the things (assuming I win the auction)...if you don't want to know then don't read the review.

[SlumpBuster]

Jeez Louise... Just havin' some fun. I thought my video link kinda suggested that. So you're not a shill. Okay. Just been having alot of them around here lately. I didn't accuse you of being a shill because you asked about some speakers.

I accused of being a shill for being a brand new member (okay, so you kicked it around 5 years ago), asking about a "white van speaker" that is selling for 10% of its supposed MSRP, then disregarding the warnings. Plus, the "in-wall garage speaker" was somewhat unusual. Your distinction between asking people if they have had actual experience is form over substance. You don't need to have actually had Thunderbird or Night Train wine to know it isn't any good. Same thing with the white van speakers proliferating Ebay and the Interwebs. The cream of bargain basement budget gear will always raise to the top, e.g. that Realistic diskman back in the 90's, the T-amp, and the Insignia bookshelves. These are not that. Oh, yeah, and you got all sh!tty with filecat.

Sorry if I jumped the gun. I will keep an eye out for your review.

[emaidel]

Yes, mom. Yes, it did feel good.

I thought your mother was going to say, "Stop that, or you'll go blind!" and then you were going to respond with, "Well, can I just do it 'till I need glasses?"

[Woochifer]

Ah yes! This thread just reminds me that a lot of the younguns returned to college campuses this week ... PRIME TIME for those scammers who sell speakers out of white vans. No better time than now to reiterate that if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Here's a previous post on the subject, w/ link to the scam policing site that tracks where the white vans currently stake out.

did we got ripped off? kinda?

As usual a lot of the names getting slapped onto these POS speakers are knockoffs on legitimate speaker companies. The current crop includes Kirsch, Olin Ross, Divinci, and Palermo. (Seems like the Italian knockoff names are in response to speakers like Vienna Acoustics and Sonus Faber now getting sold at Best Buy) Previously, you had names like Acoustic Image, Dahlton, Denmark, Dynalab, Pro Audio, among others.

http://www.scamshield.com/Feature.asp?id=1

[SlumpBuster]

It's like Gilbert Gottfried (sp?) said, "If masturbation was a crime, I'd be on death row."

I don't think this thread should be deleted, whether or not its shilly. Its educational. The AV world is permeated by hucksters and snakeoil salesmen. There are so many myths and urban legends that even well meaning salesmen can tarnish the rep of a respectable manufacturer. I'm thinking of one salesmen that wanted to tell me all about Dynaudio (respectable company) using disreputable myths. Threads like these help demonstrate what you should be on the look out for. Pics and A/B comparison of a $30 set of speakers is just wierd. Couple that with the idea that they are inwall, and its gets just plain even wierder. But, if we let spankingvanillaice through, we can be a little forgiving of this thread.

[darrinps]

I don't think this thread should be deleted, whether or not its shilly. Its educational....

Thank you.

For the life of me I can't understand why people think I'm a shill. Did anyone actually read the review? Did anyone actually listen to the recording? I wasn't doing the AAs any favors here folks.

Some peope are just born cynics I guess.