Quote Originally Posted by RGA
I have problems with audioholics because they don't compare apples to apples. Nor do they review high end speakers IMO.

PSB is not interested in the high end field. Using NRC facilities - well yeah thta is a lot cheaper than actually having your own facilities...you can rent out your overhead.

PSB makes some good speakers - that wasn't really my point.

Once people get away from the reviews and go from what they themselves hear from desgns that are not carbon copies of PSB...after all look how many have the same approach, then the opinion of them may change. It did for me I can't speak to what others will feel.

And of course Audio Note is much smaller than many of the others...many reviewers have not heard any Audio note products. UHF magazine has been around since 1982 and they finally got their hands on Audio Note's entry level CD player...which they said in many ways beat their reference cd player. The point is that they have been reviewing a long time and only now got a product.

Audioholics reviews all like systems. 6 slim line designs all sorta look the same with a metal tweeter and they're trying to figure out which one is best? I did the same thig they did with some of the exact same speakers they listened to and arrived at a very different opinion. It's not an issue that I'm right and they're wrong...each person has to decide that for themselves. reviews tend to push people.

Then when I look at owner's responses of Axiom on Audio Asylum - we get more of the truth from people who have lived with them long term...and they are not the deal the reviewers tout them to be it would seem.

Reviewers give a short listen generally...Speakers that have a wow factor are loved...wow factor speakers over the long run tend to be up for sale or worse owners stop listening.

If you can't listen for 4-8 consecutive hours at a relatively high level because it gives you a headache chances are the speaker has a problem IMO. http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/spe...es/156829.html

Apples vs oranges? I don't understand what that has to do with owning Audio Notes or other high end products?

I know your not knocking PSB. Ive ony used them as an example because I know for certain that they use the NRC facilities. I would have to look up the others to make sure. I think PSB"s new Platinum series is there step into the high end market. I also appreciate that PSB passes there cost savings onto the consumer by using rented facilities rather than factoring in the overhead of owning their own facilities into the cost of the products

This carbon copy I think is an evolution of speaker design brought onby home theater in an attempt to provide good frequency response with a smaller footprint. I'm pulling this one out of my butt

I'm not saying Audio Note is good or bad . My point is that other reviewers own a variety of equipment other than Uadio Note or Quad.

Audio Asylum tends to be snobbish IMO and the speakers that they find pleasing, I cannot afford. And they scoff at all the rest. The longer term reviews of Axioms on this forum are still favourable. But you make a good point. Maybe we should have along term review section in here based on a minimum of 3 years of ownership.

Oh, and theres no way in hell I can sit for 4 -8 hours.. My butt always gives up long before than.