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    Congress approves digital TV delay


    The U.S. switch to digital television signals will be delayed four months until June under legislation that cleared Congress on Wednesday and now goes to President Barack Obama for his signature into law. President Obama has said he will sign into law.

    The law will require TV stations to keep broadcasting their analog signals until June 12. The original law that set the Feb. 17 deadline also allowed stations to make the switch early. Some already have -- 143 of the nation’s approximately 1,800 stations have made the transition, and 60 more plan to do it before Feb. 17, according to the FCC.

    Broadcasters had opposed the extension, grumbling that it would cost them $22 million to air both analog and digital programs for an extra four more months. So FCC will allow stations to can turn off their analog transmmision before June 12th by seeking federal approval.

    Airwaves to be vacated by television broadcasters after the switch were purchased mostly by AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications Inc in an auction that raised about $19 billion for the U.S. government. Both companies agreed to a short one-time delay and their licenses will be extended under the bill.

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    So what's the point of extending the deadline? The public has had YEARS to prepare for the change over. I fail to see any logic in this.

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    I guess Pix's ranting and raving about the cataclysmic lawsuits and the unprecedented loss in profits, was wrong again.

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    DAMN!!...I was so looking forward to zombies.
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    She said : "Eh, I know you, and you cannot sing"
    I said : "That's nothing - you should hear me play piano"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    So what's the point of extending the deadline? The public has had YEARS to prepare for the change over. I fail to see any logic in this.
    I really think this legislation stemmed from federal coupon program that went haywire. Since government ran out of money, there are millions on the waiting list to get the coupons. Not to mention 13 million people already holding expired coupons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    So what's the point of extending the deadline? The public has had YEARS to prepare for the change over. I fail to see any logic in this.
    Its the GOVERNMENT, of course its a decision that is logic FREE.
    THE COMPANIES getting the new freaks were bought off, and the broadcasters
    are stuck with the tab, which they will pas along to advertisers, who in turn will pass it along to US.
    ALL SO A FEW MILLION CRACKHEADS can zone out in front if their Salvation army
    thrift store tv sets another three months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    I guess Pix's ranting and raving about the cataclysmic lawsuits and the unprecedented loss in profits, was wrong again.

    THE NIGHT IS STILL YOUNG.
    It will take time to see just how BIG a car wreck this IS.
    I have been a libertarian for decades and studied govt and economics for about
    that long, you'd think I would learn not to expect anything approaching logic from
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    AND why in hades are we even talking about this crap?
    This is a home theater forum, WHY are we talking about monophonic SD CRT
    crackhead special tv sets anyway.
    Since when did watching TV become a constitutional right?
    Was that in the "aid to people with no abilities act"?
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    They already delayed it over two years (remember when it was originally going to happen in 2006?). I don't know how delaying it another few months is really going to accomplish that much. The same people that aren't ready now aren't going to be ready in June. It's going to be a painful transition for some either way...may as well get it done now.

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    Sticks,

    Touché.

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    Doesn't matter. I read that more than 25% of the analog TV signals will go dark next week as originally scheduled. The digital TV delay is not a mandate to keep analog signals on the air, but rather a delay in the mandate to cut them off. Stations are free to do the digital transition, and a lot of the independent and public television stations and even some network affiliates will apparently make the conversion. In San Diego, the CBS, NBC, and Fox affiliates will cut off the analog signal as originally scheduled. Apparently, the utility bill to keep an analog transmission on the air is somewhere around $15,000 to $20,000 per month, and those stations going with the original schedule already built the cost savings into their budgets.
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    Well, on my TV, I'm still not getting all the major channels using an OTA antenna. All the other ones are there, but some like Channel 7 and 13 are not. Does that mean that I'm not picking it up or does that mean that they're not switched over yet? What's confusing is that the ones that do come in, do so crystal clear. What's going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    Well, on my TV, I'm still not getting all the major channels using an OTA antenna. All the other ones are there, but some like Channel 7 and 13 are not. Does that mean that I'm not picking it up or does that mean that they're not switched over yet? What's confusing is that the ones that do come in, do so crystal clear. What's going on?
    I can't get our local ABC affiliate in digital OTA. KERA, Fox, NBC and CBS look great, as do the locals above channel 13.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    Well, on my TV, I'm still not getting all the major channels using an OTA antenna. All the other ones are there, but some like Channel 7 and 13 are not. Does that mean that I'm not picking it up or does that mean that they're not switched over yet? What's confusing is that the ones that do come in, do so crystal clear. What's going on?
    What it means is that you need to get a sattelite dish.
    DTV is either a great pic or nothing at all, like sat or other digital broadcast.
    And ALL stations(with a few exceptions) are broadcasting in digital, have been for years per govt mandate.
    The term "switchover" is kind of confusing.
    What is actually happening is that the analog signal is being switched off,
    leaving the DTV signal that is already being broadcast.
    Dont want SAT or CABLE? Get a better antenna.
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    I have one of those half-moon thingies sitting on top of an unused satellite dish. From what I've read that's the best I can hope for with OTA. So does that mean that I'll never get 7 & 13 in digital?

    Speaking of the turn-off, I know it won't be a bunch of Zombies roaming the streets, but it sure will be interesting to see who & what does roam the streets after the turn-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    Well, on my TV, I'm still not getting all the major channels using an OTA antenna. All the other ones are there, but some like Channel 7 and 13 are not. Does that mean that I'm not picking it up or does that mean that they're not switched over yet? What's confusing is that the ones that do come in, do so crystal clear. What's going on?
    It just means you're not picking it up. The reception is contingent on where the transmitter is located on Mt. Wilson, and south Orange County is not where the strongest signal gets beamed. I recall that Channel 7 had one of the better VHF signals, but their digital signal might be a different story given that they use an entirely different transmitter on the UHF band. With a digital signal, it's all or nothing so whatever you pull in will be very clear, and what you cannot pull in will be blank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    I have one of those half-moon thingies sitting on top of an unused satellite dish. From what I've read that's the best I can hope for with OTA. So does that mean that I'll never get 7 & 13 in digital?
    It means that you'll need to reposition your OTA antenna or use a taller mast and/or better quality aerial antenna.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    I have one of those half-moon thingies sitting on top of an unused satellite dish. From what I've read that's the best I can hope for with OTA. So does that mean that I'll never get 7 & 13 in digital?

    Speaking of the turn-off, I know it won't be a bunch of Zombies roaming the streets, but it sure will be interesting to see who & what does roam the streets after the turn-off.
    GET one of those arrow shaped UHF antennas and about 12 ft of mast, what you have now is a joke, to put it politely.
    AND a mast rotator would be nice.
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    That's not putting it very politely...

    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    what you have now is a joke, to put it politely.
    Anyhow, what do you know what I have in my attic?

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