Microsoft Office 2007 sucks

[Florian]

Windows Vista is out and Office too. So what is a man to do? Thats right, use his 16Mbit line and try both out. LOL Vista is BS...no comment there but i hoped office 07 would be better. But no! Freaking tons of animations, tons of tranzparency etc..... it just sucks...

no wonder i am sticking with my modded server 2003 and office 03---

[icarus]

When companies spend most of their time making stuff more cosmetic, than fixing any of the bugs that they previous editions, that just pisses me right off. Doing Sh*t like that is what made me switch from using Microsoft Access for doing up databases to using Filemaker Pro. Microsoft has spent more of their time making things pretty than actually making it work well, and the die-hard microsoft people keep saying that mac's are just pretty and can't do any work. Well the way that microsoft is running, they will soon be less of a work horse and become more cosmetic......

[elapsed]

I've been using Office 2007 on my laptop for the past month, and wow! I can't say enough great things about it. Formatting is a breeze, I wouldn't consider moving back to 2003.

As for Vista, the beta gave me nothing but headaches and crashes. And IE7 is absolute garbage. I'll wait for Vista SP1 thank you very much.

[icarus]

It has seemed to me to be a unanimous decsion that the new Vista is worth avoiding at all costs, which is a good thing to know since im going to be in the market for a new computer amongst some more important electronics

[basite]

vista sucks, first you think wow, what the hell, this is mucho better than xp, not a moment after that, it will A: crash
B: start doing weird stuff, and eventually crash.

the transparency is pretty cool and stuff, but, it should be, considering the requirements! my suse (which I run since yesterday) is modded with beryl, and does what vista does (even more), only beryl does it better, and stable, and it will run on a slower pc.
I can't comment on office 2007, my brother haves it, and it looks different, all the pictures are so big that even a blind man can see them! and it will most likely look better, and have a few more options (which eventually lead to the same action as in previous versions), but most likely, it will also work very slow...
look at startup times...

Keep them spinning,
Bert.

[JoeE SP9]

Vista does suck and it does so big time. I tried the new office and it's no improvement! Give the Open Office Suite a try. It works looks and acts like any other Windows app. It's free to download and there are no fees of any kind required. This is a full featured package that includes all the same applications in the Office Professional package. Yes, that means it has a relational database along with all the other apps.
It has a smaller footprint and reads and writes all the MS Office files. Give it a try. 150Mb download at www.openoffice.org

[kexodusc]

Vista sucks...literally, it sucks resources.
All the bugginess aside , I just found it tried too hard to be more Mac and Linux like without getting either right. I'm told it's more secure, I suspect for 99% of people who know what a router, firewall, or Anti-virus is, it's not much of a benefit over XP though.
There's a lot to like about it, and it is pretty, but damn, my mom's new AMD 64 3400, 1 GB RAM, with Nvidea graphic card runs slow on it.
Office 2007, has a few features I like, a lot I'll just never use (as most Office releases have) that likely won't stick around, and for the most part is just the little brother of Vista visually.
I'll second Open Office for basic Office suite using. It needs help in the Macros area big time though - but if you don't use those, or even know what they are, I'm guessing Open Office is more than a viable alternative.

[GMichael]

There sure seems to be an awful lot of sucking going on in this thread. What's a guy got to do to get invited?

[ericl]

I gotta hand it to you early MS adopters, I don't know why you do it. I'm sure Vista will be usable in a year or two.

[Florian]

Well my primary machiene runs a modded Version of Server 2003 R2 with no buggs etc... possibly the best OS, MS made. Vista is pretty and all, but jeez its anoying with its tens of thousands of stupid questions and requets.

[kexodusc]

I gotta hand it to you early MS adopters, I don't know why you do it. I'm sure Vista will be usable in a year or two.

It's pretty "usuable" right now - if you've got a bleeding edge computer with a dual-core processor, 2 GB RAM, and sweet video card...
Otherwise you're stuck with the dumbed-down Windows XP with black borders version - it works better than XP, but nothing so much as to compel people to upgrade.

[Dusty Chalk]

There sure seems to be an awful lot of sucking going on in this thread. What's a guy got to do to get invited?

Pony up.

[Woochifer]

Just give me a version of Excel that actually adds new worksheets to the right and I might even consider upgrading!

That little bit of Hebrew-centric programming is but one of many illogical irritants that M$ packs into their applications. And those seem to carry over from version to version, while subsequent updates do nothing but pack on more features that I'll never use.

[icarus]

Just give me a version of Excel that actually adds new worksheets to the right and I might even consider upgrading!

That is one of the few things that excel does not do right. Im a strong believer that excel is the only thing that microsoft has actually done a good job on. But even if they did correct that small issue, i highly doubt it would be worth spending the extra money to buy a new office.

[Woochifer]

That is one of the few things that excel does not do right. Im a strong believer that excel is the only thing that microsoft has actually done a good job on. But even if they did correct that small issue, i highly doubt it would be worth spending the extra money to buy a new office.

Note the sarcasm ...

Seriously, I'm not about to buy a new version of Excel even if Microsoft finally acknowledges that people in America read from left-to-right. You're right that Excel is one of the few things that Microsoft did right, but that might have to do with the fact that Excel was originally developed for the Mac!

[elapsed]

I'm running Excel 2007 on my laptop, with default configuration. At the bottom of my spreadsheet are Sheet 1, Sheet 2, Sheet 3. To the right of Sheet 3 is a new button for Insert Worksheet. This inserts a new Sheet 4 to the right of Sheet 3.

Clearly the problem is finally fixed. So quit yer whining, it's an excellent product!

[elapsed]

See for yourself in this picture: http://office.microsoft.com/search/r...HA101679411033

In any case, brilliant new interface in Excel. I've never been so efficient on the product.

[icarus]

Note the sarcasm ...

wow am I dense or what.. I thought you were serious. I was like what a whiney little ***** thats the smallest beef i have ever heard of with a program . Maybe next time I'll be less dense with your sarcasm Woochifer.

[kexodusc]

Note the sarcasm ...

You're right that Excel is one of the few things that Microsoft did right, but that might have to do with the fact that Excel was originally developed for the Mac!

Not to mention they totally ripped off VisiCalc, Lotus, and Quattro Pro along the way.

[icarus]

Not to mention they totally ripped off VisiCalc, Lotus, and Quattro Pro along the way.

Its the microsoft way, if somebody has that wroks, lets take it pass it off as our own!!

[icarus]

I don't know about you but i totally do agree with this "the wow starts now compaign". There are a lot of aspects that im just wow over.

Wow... i can't beleive people buy into this Sh*!
Wow... microsoft found a way to make windows worse!!
Wow... their marketing campaign sucks

[Dusty Chalk]

Wow...I can't believe how little it changed from XP.

[Woochifer]

Not to mention they totally ripped off VisiCalc, Lotus, and Quattro Pro along the way.

You're right about that. Microsoft was floundering in the spreadsheet market with Multiplan until Apple basically handed them the keys to the vault by having them develop the spreadsheet application for the Mac. Lotus never understood how to design around a graphical interface. They were too wedded to their key command structure (which worked quite well, but it was still a DOS command based program) and could never integrate that into the Mac (and later Windows) menu options. Because Multiplan offered nothing that anyone would want to port over to the Mac, Microsoft could start anew with a blank slate. (though they did start with a version of Multiplan for the Mac, which Excel quickly succeeded)

The irony is that in those days, Lotus had the reputation for developing slow bloated programs for the Mac, while Microsoft was developing the programs that actually worked right and took full advantage of the graphical interface. Of course, that would all change later on when Microsoft grew to dominate the Mac application market, and their releases increasingly came with major bugs and slow performance -- practices that they would carry over to the PC side as well with Windows.

[nobody]

I'm curious about Vista because after a long time of windows being crap, I've actually had great luck with stability and all with XP. So, I thought maybe they finally had everything figured out.

My issue is the hardware requirements would mean at least a substantial memory upgrade and maybe a new video card. Then, I gotta buy the Vista upgrade and then perhaps an Office upgrade. Christ, after all that I could practically buy a new machine.

Anyone know if old apps will run on Vista? I'm curious if I will eventually be making the switch or if I would have to upgrade so many apps that I may as well just keep my machine as is as long as its running well and not upgrade until that far off day when I gotta buy something new. If I gotta buy upgrades for all the software I've got to run them on Vista, It would cost way too much to put that money into my current machine.

[basite]

I don't know about you but i totally do agree with this "the wow starts now compaign". There are a lot of aspects that im just wow over.

Wow... i can't beleive people buy into this Sh*!
Wow... microsoft found a way to make windows worse!!
Wow... their marketing campaign sucks

Wow... it's even slower than they said
Wow... it crashes even more than xp
Wow... I only had to click 10000 'safety warnings' the past 10 minutes
Wow... there is no hardware support at all...
Wow... it's bloody expensive
Wow... I love my neighbor's powermac...
Wow... it now takes you 10 minutes for startup
Wow... all my memory is used...

Wow... (add your own)

Keep them spinning,
Bert