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Well...for one, punk pushed prog rock and more treaditionally blues based rock onto the back burner where they have mostly stayed after a period of complete dominance up until punk came around. In additional to just specifically punk sounding styles, in the later 70s and early 80s many of the same musicians started branching out into various types of experimental musical styles in teh post punk era free of the restraints that had been previously imposed on rock music.

For example, Johnny Rotten formed PIL after the Sex Pistols collapsed making some of the most experimental music of the era that sounded nothing like punk rock, yet was only made possible through it's explosion and aftermath. The harder edge of punk music went undeground in the Hardcore movement which in addition to having at least some effect on the thrash and metal scenes that developed in the later half of the 80s was the cornerstone of the independant music business model that that has become a major staple of modern rock when bands struggling to get their records through many major labels just pressed and released them on their own, booked their own tours and developed their own networks.

Meanwhile, major labels devolved into the crap they are today, just pushing teenie pop acts and a select few artists that "fit the clothes" to superstardom while leaving most rock bands to fight it out on their own, something only possible through these independant labels.

Punk also led the change from the traditional rock look of that long haired hippie thing to a vastly different stylistic statement that still pops up regularly today. Remember when the point of dying hair was to make it look natural? Remember when only bikers dressed in black leather?

Now, how much do you want to credit the The Ramones specifically as the grandaddy of punk bands who were the standard bearers for punk in the US for decades and were key figures in inspiring the UK punk scene when they toured England in the mid 70s? Well, that could be debateable...maybe if not them, someone else would have led the charge. But, they were the ones who jumpstarted a musical and cultural movement that has had far reaching effects, even if you don't like them.
...a bit dizzy...this replaces that and rock replaces Perry Como and Patti Page and blues-based rock/prog replaces that and so on...That's simply evolution...it ain't your daddy's Oldsmobile...Didn't punk get replaced by New Wave and yada, yada, yada?

And yet post-punk experimental was set free of "restraints"? Well wasn't progressive free of the restraints of three-chord 4/4 tunes? And didn't punk eschew that freedom to roam for the simplistic freedom of three-cord 4/4 tunes...so isn't the resultant experimental stuff in essence another form of progressive??? What goes around comes around?

Think about it and simply compare some retro-types...think Stray Cats vs. Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps, there's always some little sliver of the past either continuing to be played or being "discovered" by some enterprising types...OTOH, there's always been and will always be garage bands, call it grunge or thrash or incurable rash...whatever... it's really reactionary; both are a revelation to the uninitiated.

And as I recall there are early 60s photos of this insignificant little Brit pop group in their teddy-boy doos and black leather jackets...so I'd guess there's very little new under the sun...

Don't get me started on the music biz...

jimHJJ(...I think we are of a like mind when it comes to that...)