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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    I love them Cardigans


    Really? I don't hear "Life" or "Emmerdale" as yr kinda thing...


    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    Does Stewart Copeland have any 2 albums that sound the same?
    I don't know, I haven't heard. Is his versatility one of the reasons why people who like to boast about how they're 'musicians' claim him as being some sort of God? I mean, the records could be great, and his ability cannot be denied. But he's one of those guys that certain types will praise to what seems to me to be a fault. Sort of like Neil Peart praise, in a way. None of which inspires me to seek the stuff out. That said, I do like the Police & not Rush, so I'll keep an ear out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    Played a ton of Alice Cooper too. Lots of great music there, especially "Welcome to my Nightmare."
    This is Troy? Or did someone get a hold of Troy's computer?

    I've got Love It To Death lined up here myself...it'll have to wait, though, Vancouver just took the lead on the Rangers...priorities, ya know...then again, I've spent the past 20 years turning down the sound on hockey games & putting on the Ramones & other punk rock recs to create a nifty soundtrack for my viewing pleasure...doesn't work quite as well this season with the rules changes, tho...


    Yesterday for the first time I heard a Frank Zappa album that, unlike ANYTHING ELSE HE EVER DID (at least that I've heard...and that's at least 20 albums' worth of the 500 or so he...), I actually LOVED from start to finish. Sport sent me a track or two, some years back, that I think ended up on this, if I'm not mistaken. It's called Cucamonga, it's the rootsy & twisted-doo-wop stuff that Zappa worked on prior to the Mothers, and which he obviously liked an awful lot. I remember reading an interview with Kurt Loder in Rolling Stone magazine...I think...and ended up in Loder's interview collection "Bat Chain Puller," in which Zappa talked about his days in this studio & how he was busted for recording an audio track that was supposed to be sync-ed to a porno film...I'll never understand a guy like him being criminally stupid enough to declare that punk rock was 'anti-music,' and I can't see ever liking most of his music (let alone Shut Up & Play Yer Guitar), but this is downright, uh, SOMETHING. Yow.

    Finally heard the Rhino PUNK ROCK box set "No Thanks!" for the first time today. I hadn't picked it up in spite of not having at least 1/3 of what's on there because it just seemed kinda redundant. Ended up with a copy, and guess what? It's probably more like 1/2 of this that I didn't have. Which I'm not ashamed to admit, but it makes it all the more desirable to me. Oh, sure, I have 2/3 of the songs on here, but there are so many of what seem to be different mixes or 45 single versions or maybe even alternate takes that in some cases it was almost like hearing the song for the first time. That's probably more due to not having heard those songs in awhile, but still...it's the sorta thing you go into thinking, 'I've heard this...' and then it turns out you really haven't. A good listen.

    After getting into a verbal skirmish with a Rocky Roader laden with a superior attitude who thinks I don't realize my chain is being yanked...I went back & revisited a recording I hadn't heard in at least 15 years: Al Kooper, Michael Bloomfield, Steve Stills, Super Session. Super? I don't think so; I didn't then, and I don't now, either. Good, sure. A very nice record, mostly bluesy, of course, but not the standout to my ears that some people seem to think. When you go back to a recording you haven't heard in that long a time, there's always the possibility you're going to hear it differently. But I don't see it. And, like, for instance, the Allman Brothers, the worship is something I just find baffling. There's a Shuggie Otis blues record that is superior to all of this stuff, if you must whittle away an hour or so listening to late 60s/early 70s blues, but try telling that to someone who thinks the Allman Brothers were...oh, never mind. Now, since David Johansen does it so well, I dispute that people who didn't grow up in the Mississippi Delta or played for years in Chicago can't make good blues records (and then there is the race issue, natch). But there's a...sincerity that I hear in the Harry Smiths recs that I sure as heck don't get from this Super Sessions stuff. Johansen gets across the feel that I think is a necessary component to a credible blues performance. There's a vocal on Super Session that's just plain...Wonder Bread. Oh, well. What can you do.

    Gram Parsons & the Fallen Angels--Live 1973. On WLIR! A year before the live Big Star recording. WLIR was the sh*t, THAT was a radio station. Imagine the randomness of "Jack" radio, only 30 years ago & with songs you actually wanted to hear. Anyway, Emmylou Harris is present & accounted for, and this, probably more than Parsons' last couple of records, makes one gnash the teeth at what he could've gone on to do...to my ears, anyway.

    Sing Along With Los Straitjackets--a lot of fun. A LOT.

    Cello Trio--the Brazilian classical album. Can't get enough of this.

    White Stripes--Get Behind Me Satan. I like this a whole lot better than Elephant. Maybe the best r'n'r rec I heard this year.

    Serge Gainsbourg--Couleur Cafe. Fantastic.

    Paris Combo--Motifs. Some nice world/electronica fusion.

    Mr. T Experience. Decent punk-ish...punkish.

    The Cuts--Nice garagey pop.

    The Softies--one of the better KRS artists I've heard. Very nice, very pretty, very pleasant pop from a female duo.

    Jersey Boys Soundtrack. My Four Seasons collection is incomplete...this is pleasant, but doesn't do it. Can't Take My Eyes Off You is one of the best pop songs I've ever heard. Anyone else out there a fan of Wall St. Village Day?

    Botswanas--Fade & You're Gone. I don't even remember exactly what they were like, but I remember liking it quite a bit. I think it was poppish alt-rock-ish kinda stuff, might've been a tad garagey, I've got to give it another spin.

    Green Day--Bullet In A Bible. I'm sick of these performance DVDs, I'd rather just listen to the CD. The edits & the angles are distracting, ridiculous, and headache-inducing. I can't fly around a venue when I'm watching a show, and I wouldn't want to, either. Nothing wrong with an edit now & then, but I really wish the people who stick with the formula that's developed on these live shoots would watch some vintage Elvis Costello & the Attractions videos, & then maybe the Cramps live at the Napa Mental Hospital or something. Just stick with a shot for more than 15 seconds, wouldja? Geez. The performance is good, sure. I could do without the occasional quasi-anti-USA comments, they sound lame as hell. The record does a better job of expressing that than any half-baked innuendo about our gov't. Oh, well.

    Kate Bush--Aerial. I've never been terribly familiar with her. Nice rec, but while I have to give it another spin, I'm not sure I'd reach for it before the Softies, or some of the other mellow-but-interesting pop records I've heard recently (like last year's Innocence Mission covers album, for instance). But there are some moments that are evocative of a couple of Nick Cave tunes--Nature Boy, for instance--and...I like.

    Tail Dragger--My Head Is Bald. Who? Oh, some guy who's been around Chicago long enough to have been branded with his name by Howlin' Wolf, who complained about his tardiness, or something like that. I've heard a couple of blues & jazz titles on Delmark lately that were real clunkers, but this live performance is pretty decent, if nothing earthshattering.

    Bob Marley--Wailers & Friends. I'll never understand Marley winning over Dylan on this board, but maybe someday I'll get over it. Anyway, though I haven't given the singles collection Africa Unite a spin yet, I've listened to this here CD more than anything else over the past few weeks, without a doubt. Fan-effin'-tastic.

    Verve Unmixed--I only had the 2nd edition of the Verve remixed, and I don't have a lot of this anyway, let alone putting them in this sort of order. Just an issue of the tracks they used for the first one, the original tracks, no DJ electronica remixing. Nice assortment of jass here. And while half of Unmixed 2 was a load, the other half was excellent, I thought. And if I remember correctly, Dan The Automator was, as usual, the best of the lot on that.

    bloom.--OSinner. A contemporary postpunk rec that I liked...a LOT. Who knew? How's the most recent Franz Ferdinand, anyway?

    I don't like others.

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    Leroy Stagger ~ Beautiful House.

    John Hiatt ~ Live in Austin Tx (DVD)

    Joni Mitchell ~ Hits





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    I've been working my tush off this past week (including all weekend) so not much time for music. That'll change next week as things slow down for the holidays. But I did manage to squeeze in,

    Luke Doucet - Broken - I'm still loving this and have to thank Alan again for the rec.

    Andrew Bird - The Swimming Hour - It's still growing on me.

    Great Big Sea - Play - Just good, clean, Newfie fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    I've been working my tush off this past week .
    Where will you sit?
    WARNING! - The Surgeon General has determined that, time spent listening to music is not deducted from one's lifespan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Where will you sit?
    Sitting is for lazy people...at least that's what my boss keeps telling me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    Sitting is for lazy people...at least that's what my boss keeps telling me.
    If you've go time to lean, you've got time to clean?
    WARNING! - The Surgeon General has determined that, time spent listening to music is not deducted from one's lifespan.

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    Riverside, Second Life Syndrome -- definitely recommended to the progger/neo-progger/5-piece rockin' band with the occasional space-out section crowd
    Lots of Foetus' Love album, definitely working its way up to a top 10 spot for the year.
    And some synthpop/EBM/industrial thingy -- don't know what it is, it's in my car. I think it's either Absurd Minds or Imperative Reaction -- sounds like a missing Project Pitchfork album.
    Quote Originally Posted by MindGoneHaywire
    Really? I don't hear "Life" or "Emmerdale" as yr kinda thing...
    I don't see him liking Emmerdale, but I definitely hear Life or First Band on the Moon as his sort of thing -- the early upbeat stuff. The Black Sabbath covers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindGoneHaywire
    Me liking Cardigans:
    Really? I don't hear "Life" or "Emmerdale" as yr kinda thing...
    I don't have those albums. Are they similar to Gran Tourismo and the First Band on the Moon? Hooky artpop with sexy girly vocals. What's not to like?

    I love dispelling people's ideas about me.

    Quote Originally Posted by MindGoneHaywire
    Are any 2 Steward Copeland albums the same?

    I don't know, I haven't heard. Is his versatility one of the reasons why people who like to boast about how they're 'musicians' claim him as being some sort of God? I mean, the records could be great, and his ability cannot be denied. But he's one of those guys that certain types will praise to what seems to me to be a fault. Sort of like Neil Peart praise, in a way. None of which inspires me to seek the stuff out. That said, I do like the Police & not Rush, so I'll keep an ear out.
    Some kinda god? Ummmm, not me. But I tell ya, when you play the tribal African "Rhythmatist" and the synth-based classical instrumental "Equalizer+" and then the raucus snarly and punky "Klark Kent" and the Primus/Phish loaded "Oysterhead" all back to back you can begin to see that the guy is a real student of all things musical. People worship Peart because of his monumental drumming chops. It's not Stewey's druming chops as much as it's his creativity as a musician in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by MindGoneHaywire
    Me Liking Alice Cooper:

    This is Troy? Or did someone get a hold of Troy's computer?

    I've got Love It To Death lined up here myself...it'll have to wait, though, Vancouver just took the lead on the Rangers...priorities, ya know...then again, I've spent the past 20 years turning down the sound on hockey games & putting on the Ramones & other punk rock recs to create a nifty soundtrack for my viewing pleasure...doesn't work quite as well this season with the rules changes, tho...
    I grew up on Alice Cooper. Schools Out, Billion $ Babies, Nightmare, brilliant records. Period. So mu8ch of that stuff is so proggy. I mean, "Unfinished Sweet" from B$B? YOU like that J?

    Hockey? This is California, man. Not Hockey country. I find it hilarious that cities like LA and Phoenix have hockey teams . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by MindGoneHaywire
    Yesterday for the first time I heard a Frank Zappa album that, unlike ANYTHING ELSE HE EVER DID (at least that I've heard...and that's at least 20 albums' worth of the 500 or so he...), I actually LOVED from start to finish. Sport sent me a track or two, some years back, that I think ended up on this, if I'm not mistaken. It's called Cucamonga, it's the rootsy & twisted-doo-wop stuff that Zappa worked on prior to the Mothers, and which he obviously liked an awful lot. I remember reading an interview with Kurt Loder in Rolling Stone magazine...I think...and ended up in Loder's interview collection "Bat Chain Puller," in which Zappa talked about his days in this studio & how he was busted for recording an audio track that was supposed to be sync-ed to a porno film...I'll never understand a guy like him being criminally stupid enough to declare that punk rock was 'anti-music,' and I can't see ever liking most of his music (let alone Shut Up & Play Yer Guitar), but this is downright, uh, SOMETHING. Yow.
    Look for "Cruisin with Reuben and the Jets." It's his 50s do-wop homage. I recently read about that porn bust in the FZ bio that Master Cylinder sent me. I can only imagine how redneck the high-desert town he grew up in was in the mid 60s.

    Heck, he DID punk music too. "Tryin to Grow a Chin", "Broken Hearts are for A$$holes" and "I'm so Cute" are hilarious punk send-ups. FZ always saw himself as a serious musician, even when he was making silly ****e like "Jewish Pricess" and "Bobby Brown." Years later his heading into classical territory bears this out even more. Was he playing down to his audience? Perhaps, but I think he loved all music. Perhaps you are missing the context of that "punk is anti-music" quote. I wonder how much of that anti-music feeling was due to the fashion statement aspect (which he hated in all forms of music) or the nihilistic aspect of punk culture. I just don't see FZ hating ANY kind of music because he embraced and used ALL music in his work.

    Again, the fact that he did such varied music over his career (making Copeland look like the Ramones in comparison) should be immensely appealing to anyone that loves music.

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    Billion

    "I grew up on Alice Cooper. Schools Out, Billion $ Babies, Nightmare, brilliant records. Period. So mu8ch of that stuff is so proggy."
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    Troy:
    I was a sound roadie (monitor mix) on the B$B tour in 1973 -- Vince was a normal guy; he just knew how to make money. The hardest drug I ever saw the man do was Budweiser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterCylinder
    "I grew up on Alice Cooper. Schools Out, Billion $ Babies, Nightmare, brilliant records. Period. So mu8ch of that stuff is so proggy."
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    Troy:
    I was a sound roadie (monitor mix) on the B$B tour in 1973 -- Vince was a normal guy; he just knew how to make money. The hardest drug I ever saw the man do was Budweiser.
    Wow, we have our own Alice Cooper Roadie posting here!

    Oh yeah, I know, it was all about THEATER with AC. I mean, the guy GOLFS, how much of a punk can he really be?

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    exactly

    Yes -- he does play golf.
    At the time we worked together, he lived in the mansion next door to Barry Goldwater's mansion in Phoenix..........and they were friends..........yikes.
    To all of us pot-smoking roadies from Dallas, that was really wacked !

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    Furnier's considered to be extremely conservative politically.

    The first two Cardigans albums I don't really hear as being similar to the next two, not that they're all that different, the earlier stuff appeals to me more, though. Life in particular, I don't see that as being up Troy's alley because of the poppy jazz vibe, very bluesy underneath the often cheerful-sounding Euro-ish pop.

    I don't like others.

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