• 12-04-2005, 07:37 PM
    audiobill
    Top 20 of 2005 -- Rave Recs
    I thought I'd get this year-end thread going.

    Personally, I have plenty of contenders for my year-end list, but have yet to decide on all twenty.

    So I thought, we could have some fun and list all of our contenders and, from those, ones that will absolutely be there by the end of this thread -- when all is said and done.
    Isn't that what the "edit" button is for??

    Okay. I'll start....

    1. ??
    2. Spoon - Gimme Fiction
    3. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem
    4. Crooked Fingers - Dignity and Shame
    5. Martha Wainwright - Marthat Wainwright
    6. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
    7. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
    8. The Magic Numbers - The Magic Numbers
    9. My Morning Jacket - Z
    10. System of a Down - Mezmerize
    11. Mike Doughty - Haughty Melodic
    12 Patrick Wolf - Wind in the Wires
    13. Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary
    14. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah! - Clap Your Hands SY!
    15. The Books - Lost and Safe
    16. Brazilian Girls - Brazilian Girls
    17. The Clientelle - Strange Geometry
    18. Black Mountain - Black Mountain
    19. Lightning Bolt - Hypermagic Mountain
    20. The Fiery Furnaces - Rehearsing My Choir

    ??
    Ryan Adams & The Cardinals - Cold Roses
    Beck - Guero
    Ike Reilly Assassination - Sparkle in the Finish
    Stephen Malkmus - Face the Truth
    Love As Laughter - Laughter's Fifth

    Honourable Mentions:
    Caribou - Milk of Human Kindness
    Opeth - Ghost Reveries
    Common - Be
    Quasimoto - The Further Adventures of Lord Quas
    The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree

    Guilty Pleasure:
    My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge

    Commentary to follow....

    So, why don't you walk on the wild side & post yours....

    Cheers,

    audiobill
  • 12-04-2005, 08:11 PM
    ForeverAutumn
    I haven't really given this too much thought yet, but off the top of my head, I would have to add the following to the list, in no particular order...

    Andrew Bird - The Mysterious Production of Eggs
    Luke Doucet - Broken (I finally got a copy of this and it's excellent!)
    Dream Theater - Octavarium
    Death Cab for Cutie - Plans
    The Kaiser Chiefs - Employment
    The Trews - Den of Thieves
    Maximo Park - A Certain Trigger
  • 12-05-2005, 12:37 AM
    Slosh
    deja vu
    1. Stephen Malkmus - Face The Truth
    2. Rogue Wave - Descended Like Vultures
    3. The Decemberists - Picaresque
    4. Super Furry Animals - Love Kraft
    5. Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
    6. Andrew Bird - The Mysterious Production Of Eggs
    7. Spoon - Gimme Fiction
    8. Calexico/Iron & Wine - In The Reins
    9. American Analog Set - Set Free
    10. Fruit Bats - Spelled In Bones

    Those are the easy ones. I'll have to get back to this thread later on the next ten.
  • 12-05-2005, 02:43 AM
    tentoze
    20) Elliot Murphy~ Murphy Gets Muddy
    19) Graham Parker~ Songs of No Consequence
    18) Vic Chesnutt~ Ghetto Bells
    17) Bruce Springsteen~ Devils & Dust
    16) The Frames~ Burn The Maps
    15) Sun Kil Moon~ Tiny Cities
    14) John Prine~ Fair & Square
    13) Son Volt~ Okemah & The Melody of Riot
    12) Mountain Goats~ The Sunset Tree
    11) Marissa Nadler~ The Saga of Mayflower May
    10) Okkervil River~ Black Sheep Boy
    9) Ry Cooder~ Chavez Ravine
    8) My Morning Jacket~ Z
    7) Magnolia Electric Company~ Trials & Errors
    6) Damon & Naomi~ The Earth Is Blue
    5) Al Kooper~ Black Coffee
    4) Andrew Bird & The Mysterious Production of Eggs
    3) Decemberists~ Picaresque
    2) Mary Gauthier~ Mercy Now
    1) Micah P. Hinson & The Gospel of Progress
  • 12-05-2005, 07:59 AM
    Mr MidFi
    Interesting to see that no one has mentioned Deadwing yet.
  • 12-05-2005, 08:08 AM
    Stone
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr MidFi
    Interesting to see that no one has mentioned Deadwing yet.

    Is that similar to Deadman?
  • 12-05-2005, 09:28 AM
    Davey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tentoze
    2) Mary Gauthier~ Mercy Now

    Started playing that one more this weekend and it is growing on me a lot. Guess my initial reaction was that sometimes she sounds a bit too much like Lucinda, but I also realize now that's not really her fault either. Good songs and lots of emotion. Wish thay'd mastered it better to give her voice a little more room to breath. Shame it has to be so compressed and congested, but it is a nice one. Also gave that new Al Kooper a spin, and even though it seems to go on forever, still some very tasty music.

    BTW, I've only heard 2 of the albums on audiobill's list! Guess there won't be much Rave Recs consensus this year. And none of the UK mags even have my favorite album in their top 50. Ya ever feel out of touch ;)
  • 12-05-2005, 09:35 AM
    Troy
    Deadwing.
  • 12-05-2005, 09:45 AM
    Dusty Chalk
    My current working list, and no, I didn't go back and add Porcupine Tree, it was already on there (proof furnished upon request):

    Black Mountain
    Rob Dickinson, Fresh Wine for the Horses
    Electrelane, Axes
    Matt Elliott, Drinking Songs
    Foetus, Love
    Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom, The Days of Mars
    Jesu
    LCD Soundsystem
    Mars Volta, [i}Frances the Mute[/i]
    New Model Army, Carnival
    Nine Inch Nails, With Teeth
    Porcupine Tree, DeadWing
    Sigur Rós, Takk
    Super/System, Always Never Again
    John Vanderslice, Pixel Revolt

    Addit'l to consider:

    Antimatter
    Venetian Snares
    Jason Forrest -- Shamelessly something -- don't even have this one yet.
    m83
  • 12-05-2005, 10:29 AM
    kexodusc
    I would just add the following to all the great submissions above:

    Arena - Pepper's Ghost
    Spock's Beard - Octane
    Tori Amos - The Beekeeper
  • 12-05-2005, 12:14 PM
    ForeverAutumn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr MidFi
    Interesting to see that no one has mentioned Deadwing yet.

    Deadwing didn't impress me.
  • 12-05-2005, 01:38 PM
    Duds
    Clutch - Robot Hive/Exodus
    Opeth - Ghost Reveries
    Tori Amos - Beekeeper
    Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
    Neil Young - Prairie Wind
    Queens of the stone age - Lullabies To Paralyze
    Black Label Society - MAfia
    Nine Inch Nails - with teeth
    Brand NEw Sin - Recipe For Disaster
    Callisto - True NAture UNfolds
    Soulfly - Dark Ages

    All i could come up with at the moment
  • 12-05-2005, 01:40 PM
    Stone
    Man, I still have a lot of listening to do over the next month or 6 weeks before I have a even a decent idea of a top ten, let alone a top 20. Here are a few that'll surely make the list, though:

    Of Montreal - The Sunlandic Twins
    Okkervil River - Black Sheep Boy
    The Juan Maclean - Less than Human
    Animal Collective - Feels
    High On Fire - Blessed Black Wings
  • 12-05-2005, 01:56 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Davey
    BTW, I've only heard 2 of the albums on audiobill's list! Guess there won't be much Rave Recs consensus this year. And none of the UK mags even have my favorite album in their top 50. Ya ever feel out of touch ;)

    Davey: You're such a tease. Now, what could your top album be?? hmmmmmmm.
  • 12-05-2005, 02:15 PM
    Davey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audiobill
    Davey: You're such a tease. Now, what could your top album be?? hmmmmmmm.

    No tease, just thought everyone probably knew about my love for Andrew Bird's latest by now ;)
  • 12-05-2005, 02:16 PM
    -Jar-
    I don't think I've bought a 2005 release this year !

    I've heard a few.. but not purchased.

    times they are a changin'..
  • 12-05-2005, 02:33 PM
    Davey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slosh
    Who?

    ps- Could you guy go tease each other in private? I'm trying not to vomit all over my keyboard.

    Wow, a Slosh post with no mention of Rogue Wave? I didn't think it was possible ;)

    BTW, we'd prefer that you vomit all over your keyboard in private as well.
  • 12-05-2005, 03:04 PM
    Slosh
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Davey
    BTW, we'd prefer that you vomit all over your keyboard in private as well.

    Ooops, did I just type that out loud?

    Man, what a boring message board.
  • 12-05-2005, 03:58 PM
    Davey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Descended Like Slosh
    Ooops, did I just type that out loud?

    Yeah, thanks for sharing that. Hey, I finally got a copy of that last Brainiac EP on the way. Got notified of some stuff that came available at Djangos so placed an order since they were having a sale. Some stuff for my Christmas stocking. Electro Shock for President from 1997 is their last recording before one of the main guys died, and John then went on to form Enon. Should be some fun Devo-type stuff. Here's a little review I swiped from Ultra ...

    It seems that Brainiac is sailing a totally new course with this new EP Electro Shock for President. There are hardly any guitars left on this album. This is probably what you would call "expanding your horizons". This is a mixture between the usual Brainiac-lunacy, techno and early-80's new-wave (probably because Timmy Taylor uses the moog a lot). And odd as it may sound, it is truly a great record! Electro Shock for President comes closer to Brainiac's fellow townsmen Devo than any of their other records have done. You also hear touch of Kraftwerk once in a while. The switch in musical influences probably also accounts for the switch in producers. Eli Janney gave up his seat to make way for Gastr' del Sol's Jim O'Rourke. It's weird, to hear a song like Fashion 500 which hardly contains beats or rhythms. The most sad thing about this all, is that, just when the band is starting to go on untrodden paths, their singer Timmy Taylor died tragically in a car accident. So, very unexpectedly, this EP, which was probably going to be their last on the Touch & Go label, is also the testament of this talented band. (bt) http://www.dma.be/p/ultra/1997/b-clusfi.htm#brainiac


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Son of Slosh
    Man, what a boring message board.

    Yeah, without me this board would really suck, huh?

    ;)
  • 12-05-2005, 04:34 PM
    Slosh
    I like the "Native Numb", "Count Sheep" etc. side of Enon more than the synthy stuff (although there's some good stuff there as well). The stuff I like doesn't sound much like Devo to me. I think I have downloaded some Brainiac before. I forget now. Let me know if it's Believo!-esque at all.

    ~Slosh - without msg I am nothing
  • 12-05-2005, 04:55 PM
    Davey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slosh and Slosher
    I like the "Native Numb", "Count Sheep" etc. side of Enon more than the synthy stuff (although there's some good stuff there as well). The stuff I like doesn't sound much like Devo to me. I think I have downloaded some Brainiac before. I forget now. Let me know if it's Believo!-esque at all.

    I'll toss some Brainiac goodies in with the latest trade. No extra charge. Nada. Zip. FREE!

    Just don't tease me ...

    Oh yeah, and if you came here for audiobill's thread, sorry. You're in the wrong place :)
  • 12-05-2005, 05:12 PM
    -Jar-
    man, I saw Brainiac like 5 times or something. being from Dayton they played up in Clevo quite a bit.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:13 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -Jar-
    I don't think I've bought a 2005 release this year !

    I've heard a few.. but not purchased.

    times they are a changin'..

    Hey, jarman. That's what kids will do to you. audiobill
  • 12-05-2005, 05:13 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slosh
    Ooops, did I just type that out loud?

    Man, what a boring message board.


    You guys are begining to scare me. Yeeeechhhhh.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:13 PM
    -Jar-
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Davey
    Electro Shock for President comes closer to Brainiac's fellow townsmen Devo than any of their other records have done.

    yea, Ohio is just one big town huh.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:15 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Davey
    No tease, just thought everyone probably knew about my love for Andrew Bird's latest by now ;)

    Lord knows, I've tried the Andrew Bird several times & I just don't get it. Obviously you and ForeverAutumn get it. I've given up on it.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:17 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    I haven't really given this too much thought yet, but off the top of my head, I would have to add the following to the list, in no particular order...

    Andrew Bird - The Mysterious Production of Eggs
    Luke Doucet - Broken (I finally got a copy of this and it's excellent!)
    Dream Theater - Octavarium
    Death Cab for Cutie - Plans
    The Kaiser Chiefs - Employment
    The Trews - Den of Thieves
    Maximo Park - A Certain Trigger

    Luke Doucet............ What's the music like?? Is it proggy or not?

    Have to agree with Maximo Park -- great disc.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:18 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Troy
    Deadwing.

    Would you say that Deadwing is as good as In Absentia?? Haven't heard it, yet.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:18 PM
    -Jar-
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -Jar-
    yea, Ohio is just one big town huh.

    oh sorry Dave.. didn't mean to imply that you were the idiot :)
  • 12-05-2005, 05:20 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tentoze
    20) Elliot Murphy~ Murphy Gets Muddy
    19) Graham Parker~ Songs of No Consequence
    18) Vic Chesnutt~ Ghetto Bells
    17) Bruce Springsteen~ Devils & Dust
    16) The Frames~ Burn The Maps
    15) Sun Kil Moon~ Tiny Cities
    14) John Prine~ Fair & Square
    13) Son Volt~ Okemah & The Melody of Riot
    12) Mountain Goats~ The Sunset Tree
    11) Marissa Nadler~ The Saga of Mayflower May
    10) Okkervil River~ Black Sheep Boy
    9) Ry Cooder~ Chavez Ravine
    8) My Morning Jacket~ Z
    7) Magnolia Electric Company~ Trials & Errors
    6) Damon & Naomi~ The Earth Is Blue
    5) Al Kooper~ Black Coffee
    4) Andrew Bird & The Mysterious Production of Eggs
    3) Decemberists~ Picaresque
    2) Mary Gauthier~ Mercy Now
    1) Micah P. Hinson & The Gospel of Progress


    Thanks for posting a top twenty there 'toze.

    Got to give that Micah P. another try.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:22 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    My current working list, and no, I didn't go back and add Porcupine Tree, it was already on there (proof furnished upon request):

    Black Mountain
    Rob Dickinson, Fresh Wine for the Horses
    Electrelane, Axes
    Matt Elliott, Drinking Songs
    Foetus, Love
    Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom, The Days of Mars
    Jesu
    LCD Soundsystem
    Mars Volta, [i}Frances the Mute[/i]
    New Model Army, Carnival
    Nine Inch Nails, With Teeth
    Porcupine Tree, DeadWing
    Sigur Rós, Takk
    Super/System, Always Never Again
    John Vanderslice, Pixel Revolt

    Addit'l to consider:

    Antimatter
    Venetian Snares
    Jason Forrest -- Shamelessly something -- don't even have this one yet.
    m83


    That Pixel Revolt seems to be one of the most underappreciated gems of 2005, imho.
    Also, heard that the Electrelane is divine -- yet to listen to it. Maybe I'll get to it in 2006.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:26 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kexodusc
    I would just add the following to all the great submissions above:

    Arena - Pepper's Ghost
    Spock's Beard - Octane
    Tori Amos - The Beekeeper

    Hey, kexodusc.

    Where in the canon of Tori Amos Albums would you place The Beekeeper. Does it resemble her earlier work or her later work. Have yet to hear it, too.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:29 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Duds
    Clutch - Robot Hive/Exodus
    Opeth - Ghost Reveries
    Tori Amos - Beekeeper
    Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
    Neil Young - Prairie Wind
    Queens of the stone age - Lullabies To Paralyze
    Black Label Society - MAfia
    Nine Inch Nails - with teeth
    Brand NEw Sin - Recipe For Disaster
    Callisto - True NAture UNfolds
    Soulfly - Dark Ages

    All i could come up with at the moment

    Wow! That's plenty duds. I'll have to revisit the Neil Young release. It, initially, grabbed me, but I haven't given it any time recently. Neil's music, though is like an old jacket that fits just right -- I'm sure the next time I put it on, it'll feel better.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:30 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stone
    Man, I still have a lot of listening to do over the next month or 6 weeks before I have a even a decent idea of a top ten, let alone a top 20. Here are a few that'll surely make the list, though:

    Of Montreal - The Sunlandic Twins
    Okkervil River - Black Sheep Boy
    The Juan Maclean - Less than Human
    Animal Collective - Feels
    High On Fire - Blessed Black Wings

    I believe that "Feels" is a better and more cohesive album than "Sung Tongs". Another one I'll have to revisit. Thanks for the prompt on Of Montreal's latest. Seems like this band got so much attention in the past several years that the press has forgotten about them lately.
  • 12-05-2005, 05:36 PM
    Davey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -Jar-
    oh sorry Dave.. didn't mean to imply that you were the idiot :)

    Hehehe, don't worry, I get that a lot http://forums.audioreview.com/images...s/confused.gif

    I did take the liberty of correcting a few grammar type errors in that little review since the translation wasn't quite perfect, but yeah, ya gotta cut those foreigners a little slack, although I guess in Belgium the percentage of people who speak English well is pretty high. Certainly much higher than those who speak Flemish or French in the US, or that know anything about Belgium for that matter :)
  • 12-05-2005, 05:55 PM
    Davey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audiobill
    Lord knows, I've tried the Andrew Bird several times & I just don't get it. Obviously you and ForeverAutumn get it. I've given up on it.

    Yeah, funny about that. Bouncing around the net you can find quite a few of us that think this is a real landmark album, easily the best of the year and one of the best of the last few years. There's people pulling apart the lyrics and recasting them into their own images, just like we do on the classics of old. Bird is a very unassuming and underappreciated talent. You listen to the interviews like on NPR or read some of the transcripts and he just seems like another guy, someone you'd love to hang out with and drink a few beers and discuss life. Just a great guy. Even sounds a little shy and embarrassed at the attention he's getting. But a brilliant writer and performer. He did just about everything on that album. And he seems to soak up music styles like a sponge. I skipped the last album thinking that it was probably just more of the Swimming Hour, but now I know that it's completely different and I need to go back and pick it up. Some fans think it's better than this one. All depends on what you like most.

    But there's a lot of people that just say "meh" too. It's not even listed in the top 100 Editor's picks at amazon for 2005. Or in the Uncut top 50. Or NME or Mojo. But did pretty well with many of the critics as evidenced by its high rating at metacritic. Top of my little pile of discs this year, but it took awhile before it really clicked fully with me too ;)
  • 12-05-2005, 05:56 PM
    audiobill
    bump.
  • 12-05-2005, 06:09 PM
    ForeverAutumn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audiobill
    bump.

    That's a lot of posts for one thread Bill. And a bump at 9:56 when Davey's post was only at 9:55. A post sure can fall far in a minute with all the action at this site, eh?

    Have you been nipping into the eggnog tonight?
  • 12-05-2005, 06:10 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    That's a lot of posts for one thread Bill. And a bump at 9:56 when Davey's post was only at 9:55. A post sure can fall far in a minute with all the action at this site, eh?

    Have you been nipping into the eggnog tonight?

    Hacker Weiss Beer, to be exact. Had time tonight to be on the board. Woohoo.
  • 12-06-2005, 05:14 AM
    Duds
    The Neil didn't grab me at first either, but after a few more spins it definitely did.

    '05 was a pretty good year for rock releases. Two more i'd like to add are

    Corrosion of Conformity - In The Arms of God
    Fireball Ministry - Their Rock is Not our Rock

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audiobill
    Wow! That's plenty duds. I'll have to revisit the Neil Young release. It, initially, grabbed me, but I haven't given it any time recently. Neil's music, though is like an old jacket that fits just right -- I'm sure the next time I put it on, it'll feel better.