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    How could I forget Babs Streisand?

    No, her voice isn't what annoys me, it's her liberal politicking during her performances. Look, I realize a few of you misguided RR members are liberals , but if she wants to discuss her politics on stage, the show should be billed that way. I've been to a couple shows in the past where the lead singer started some crap about Bush, eliciting quite a few boos and hisses from the audience, along with some applause as you might guess.

    The point is, keep your friggin' politics off the stage during your performances unless you advertise it as a fund-raiser or Bush-bashing event, or I will never support you again, and that goes for your cds and your shows. The Chickey Dicks paid the price for their stupidity, so you'd think others would learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swish
    No, her voice isn't what annoys me, it's her liberal politicking during her performances. Look, I realize a few of you misguided RR members are liberals , but if she wants to discuss her politics on stage, the show should be billed that way. I've been to a couple shows in the past where the lead singer started some crap about Bush, eliciting quite a few boos and hisses from the audience, along with some applause as you might guess.

    The point is, keep your friggin' politics off the stage during your performances unless you advertise it as a fund-raiser or Bush-bashing event, or I will never support you again, and that goes for your cds and your shows. The Chickey Dicks paid the price for their stupidity, so you'd think others would learn.

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    Nah, I think certain fundamental freedoms give them right to ***** about whatever they want during their performances.
    And we have the right to criticize and hate them for it.

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    I disrespectfully disagree!

    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    Nah, I think certain fundamental freedoms give them right to ***** about whatever they want during their performances.
    And we have the right to criticize and hate them for it.
    Well, maybe I'll agree with what you said in principle, but I'm paying to see a performance of a band's music, not to hear them preach to me. I get enuf of that crap on the network news. What she does in her private life is a different matter. I don't go to my office and start telling everyone who they should vote for or how I believe Obummer is a Jimmy Carter rehash who will be a total flop or I would be ostracized in a heartbeat. Why is it any different for a performer who just happens to have a stage and an audience. I think it's total bull****.

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    Sorry to disagree, here

    Quote Originally Posted by Swish
    Why is it any different for a performer who just happens to have a stage and an audience. I think it's total bull****.
    Well, I don't think it's bull. See this is a country where people are allowed to say what's on their minds. The alternative would be much worse - take it from someone who's experienced censorship first-hand, the alternative is not an option. And it's not like anyone who's followed Streisand didn't know this to begin with. Or were you living under a rock? Look, if you don't like her politics, maybe this isn't the artist for you. Part of an artist's freedom is to express their political opinions through their art. If art were not political, would it still be art? Would we even have jazz, rock, soul, or even Beethoven's 3rd, if these artists had chosen to remain a-political?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swish
    Well, maybe I'll agree with what you said in principle, but I'm paying to see a performance of a band's music, not to hear them preach to me....
    Hey 'flier,

    I don't think that GrampySwish is saying that they should be banned or censored, merely that they should be shunned, ostracized, and discounted.

    For my part I agree with him too. If you can't tell me how much a gallon of milk is, I don't care to know your political philosophy. It's sorta like people who have never done drugs counseling substance abuse programs or chaste nuns preaching about sex. If you haven't been down in the trenches leave it for your bio, I'll just take the songs thank you very much.

    It's interesting to note that Zach hasn't had much success since the implosion of Rage. Without those stellar bandmates he was revealed for the musically-limited and ungrateful little cur that he is. Wanna promote some backwards, uphill land revolution? Fine. Wanna verbally mangle the country which provided you the opportunity to make millions? Again, fine but tacky enough that I'm probably not hopping on board. Apparently I'm not alone.

    Within context I view Obama the same way. He, like DeLaRocha, has no real substance just whining about change. Fine. Good. I agree that there needs to be some changes within the structure of this country, but he offers no concrete examples and indeed offers no evidence that he even knows where to start...just alot of sound and fury. But, take that to the next level...wanna position yourself with those that "have never been proud of America" or those that damn it and I'm not sure he and I are interested in the same kinds of change. Just my .02.


    And, btw (and on-topic slightly) apart both Petty and Orbison are acceptable and sometimes desirable, but that "Traveling Wilbury's" thing was just too much bizarro world.

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    Holy crap! Swish and I actually agree on something!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    Nah, I think certain fundamental freedoms give them right to ***** about whatever they want during their performances.
    And we have the right to criticize and hate them for it.

    Kex - card-carrying wishy-washy, flip-floppin', social liberal/fiscal conservative type...today. FREE WESLEY SNIPES!
    I'm with Swish on this. If I buy a ticket to a concert, I'm there to hear the music not personal opinion...unless the show is billed as a fund raiser. I don't care if the opinion is political or otherwise. R.E.M. invited Amnesty International to set up a table at their concert. At the end of the show they invited people to pay the table a visit and that was the extent of it. I didn't mind that. But had they gone on and started talking about it on stage and giving their opinion of WHY everyone should join, I would have taken issue with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    I'm with Swish on this. If I buy a ticket to a concert, I'm there to hear the music not personal opinion...unless the show is billed as a fund raiser. I don't care if the opinion is political or otherwise. R.E.M. invited Amnesty International to set up a table at their concert. At the end of the show they invited people to pay the table a visit and that was the extent of it. I didn't mind that. But had they gone on and started talking about it on stage and giving their opinion of WHY everyone should join, I would have taken issue with that.
    I'm with Swish on it too...it's annoying as hell and I tend to agree with you guys. I go through it all the time being an American living in Canada - its way cool to crap on the USA these days - sometimes it's pretty funny, sometimes it stings.

    I guess my point was while I'd rather not listen to a 30 second rant in the middle of sets...but, there's nothing stopping them. The most we can do is stop supporting them, boo them, complain etc.

    You put a mic in front of someone, you're at their mercy. And that's a pretty cool thing.

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    If quirky is the criteria...

    then I think the guy from spoon and also Modest mouse would be on the list. But they aren't because I love quirky. Love Springsteen, Dylan, Neil Young, Dr. John and a whole host of blues singers who sound like they have marbles in their mouths.

    It is the "beautiful" voices I can't stand.

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    The guy from Spoon quirky? Really?

    Quote Originally Posted by thereyet
    then I think the guy from spoon and also Modest mouse would be on the list. But they aren't because I love quirky. Love Springsteen, Dylan, Neil Young, Dr. John and a whole host of blues singers who sound like they have marbles in their mouths.

    It is the "beautiful" voices I can't stand.

    thereyet
    I think Britt is a pretty fine singer actually, and I don't find him the least bit quirky. Of course, I may be a bit partial since I met him in person and we're real close friends now.

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