[Dave_G]

Why I hate this place:

1) Ya'll got Yech banned

2) Ya'll don't have any Gary Numan remasters

3) Ya'll hate prog

4) Ya'll don't dig the new Psychedelic Furs dvd

5) Ya'll don't have front row tickets to the Yes 35th anniversary tour to give me

6) My dialup connection

7) Panties

8) Ya'll don't eat yellow snow

9) Ya'll don't have any porno flicks

10) Ya'll don't have the re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-masters of Pretzel Logic.

Other that that, I love this place!

Dave

[Dusty Chalk]

1) Ya'll got Yech banned

I know you were kidding, but JIC...Yech got himself banned. None of us can take credit for that, as much as some of us would like to.

[Dave_G]

I had no problem with him even tho he gave me a rash about my musical choices.

Dave

[Troy]

Yech got himself banned. None of us can take credit for that, as much as some of us would like to.

It could be viewed that he was goaded into going too far . . .

[Davey.]

It could be viewed that he was goaded into going too far . . .

It could, but it wasn't my intention to turn this into a thread or poll about YECH. I don't know for sure that he was even banned. For all I know he might have deleted his own posts. But the one I had the misfortune of viewing was a crude, misogynistic attack on Snowbunny. And definitely not provoked. But even if it had been provoked, it was still way out of line and I found it very troubling, especially since my name also appeared in it. It disappeared before I had decided what to do about it, but I was glad it did and am also glad that it hasn't been allowed to happen again. But I can appreciate that some of you feel differently.

[dld]

Banned

[Troy]

Well, Dusty just sent me a blistering e-mail that, I guess, spent a moment on this board before Davey asked him to pull it.

In a nutshell, it says what davey said above about our beloved Yech, in a less diplomatic way.

Let me just throw this out there for you guys to chew on and then I won't discuss it again.

I goaded the guy right from the outset. Yes, he would make the most incredibly insulting and rude posts towards the end of his time here. But in the beginning, many years ago, he wasn't quite as bad. The tone was more playfull and funny. Was he my buddy? You're kidding, right? Some of his posts made me laugh at times, but it was the uneasy laughter usually reserved for drunk uncles insulting the other family members over thanksgiving dinner.

Most of his BS was directed at me at in the early days because I was the one that smacked back. My playing with him only egged him on, see? It spiraled faster and faster until he began lashing out at not just the progger types, but at virtually anyone and everyone. Still, I continued to bait him, dredging up some horrible personal insults, until he reached an unbelievable frenzy last fall where AR finally had no choice, but to ban him with the implementation of this new board.

Now, when I run across him on other boards, he flames me and everyone else within 100 yards just out of hand. Just seeing my name attached to the post makes him pop a vessel.

Did I do it on purpose? Out-troll the troll? Of course not. But I do think that my goading forced him to escalate to the point of no return.

So that's what I meant by "Goading".

Lets move on, shall we?

[ForeverAutumn]

I goaded the guy right from the outset.
....
Now, when I run across him on other boards, he flames me and everyone else within 100 yards just out of hand. Just seeing my name attached to the post makes him pop a vessel.

Did I do it on purpose? Out-troll the troll? Of course not. But I do think that my goading forced him to escalate to the point of no return.

You know, I was gonna try to stay out of this conversation since everyone here knows exactly where I stand. But I have to say this.

Troy, you could goad me, insult me, verbally attack me, do what you will to me...I would never, in return, attack you the way YECH attacked the folks on this board. No matter how bad things got, I would never do something like wish "end-stage lung cancer" for you or verbally attack your family. It takes a truly disturbed individual to respond and act out the way YECH does.

There are people on this board who have tried to defend him to me, both publicly on RR and privately by email. I don't know why these people feel that there is something to defend. Did YECH have some good qualities, yeah maybe. I never saw them but that doesn't mean that they weren't there. Ted Bundy and Paul Bernardo were nice guys too.

I only hope that, at some point during his lifetime, YECH finds the help that he so desperately needs.

[Jim Clark]

But I do think that my goading forced him to escalate to the point of no return.

Hey I'm pretty sure you don't deserve the credit for this, but to borrow an old adage,"whatever works".

-"Let's move on, shall we?"-

Gleefully.

jc

[Stone]

Why I hate this place:

2) Ya'll don't have any Gary Numan remasters

9) Ya'll don't have any porno flicks

Other that that, I love this place!

Dave

I'm not sure who "Ya'll" is, but it's obviously not me.