Oh man I need new music to listen to... HELP!

[mad rhetorik]

I don't know everything on his list but I'm thinking that Porcupine Tree and Marillion would be up your alley.

In addition:
Opeth - Damnation (although a little on the mellow side)
Chain - Recontruct
Kyuss - Welcome to Sky Valley
Cryptic Vision - Moments of Clarity
The Mars Volta - De-loused In the Comatorium
Queens of the Stoneage - Songs for the Deaf
Queensryche
Spock's Beard

Good choices all-around.

Opeth flat-out rule. They're one of the most unique metal outfits out there right now. Damnation is the place to start. It sticks almost entirely to their soft folky/jazzy side and there's no harsh growled vox like in their other albums which alternate between loud and soft stylings. If you have the inclination, check out Morningrise (best metal album of the '90s IMO), Deliverence, Still Life, and Blackwater Park. Be warned that it will probably take a few listens to get accustomed to the harsher parts of Opeth's sound, unless you already have a well-developed taste for this sort of thing.

Kyuss and Queens Of The Stone Age (a Kyuss spinoff) both have great albums. Check out Blues For The Red Sun and Rated R, respectively. Queens Of The Stone Age are no more, but Josh Homme, the guitarist of Kyuss/QOTSA, plays drums for another outfit called The Eagles Of Death Metal (who do not sound like The Eagles, nor are they death metal). Might as well check them out too.

After listening to Dave Grohl's excellent work on the skins in QOTSA's Songs For The Deaf, you should check out the other albums he has drummed on, like the latest Killing Joke disc and his metal side project Probot. The latter features a "who's-who" list of metal vocalists from various '80s underground outfits.

Mars Volta is great, and Deloused.. is a fave of mine. Also look into Cedric Bixler and Omar Rodriguez's prior outfit, At The Drive-In, and their last album Relationship Of Command. A pretty mindblowing release if you ask me.

Queensryche's two best albums are Operation Mindcrime and Rage For Order. They both have been recently remastered w/ bonus tracks. Don't bother with the albums after Mindcrime unless you don't mind Bon Jovi-esque cheese. Also worth considering if you like Queensryche is Fates Warning, and of course Rush (ugh, can't believe I'm the one giving a Rush recc). As a DT fan, if you enjoy prog metal with a high emphasis on technicality, try Spiral Architect--rock doesn't get more intricate than that. Also worthy in this respect is Gordian Knot, an instrumental prog metal/fusion outfit led by the excellent bassist and songwriter Sean Malone, and featuring players from King Crimson and Dream Theater among others.

Porcupine Tree is also excellent, and Steve Wilson is one of the foremost prog artists in the world today. Start with In Absentia, but look into all of their other releases as well.

If you like Todd's Converge recc, I'd check out Dillinger Escape Plan's Calculating Infinity, which is a favorite of mine (and also appears to be a fave of Jar's, as well). Blazingly fast and insane math-metal, not for the faint of heart.

There's lots of good stuff out there... here's a few other albums to try:

Metal:
Megadeth: Rust In Peace
Iron Maiden: Number Of The Beast, Powerslave
Metallica: Ride The Lightning, Master Of Puppets, ..And Justice For All
Death: Human, Individual Thought Patterns, The Sound Of Perseverence
Meshuggah: Nothing

Prog:
Tool: Lateralus
King Crimson: Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Red, Discipline, THRAK
Frank Zappa: One Size Fits All, Hot Rats, Waka/Jawaka, Apostrophe, Freak Out!
Can: Tago Mago
King's X: Gretchen Goes To Nebraska, Dogman
Radiohead: The Bends, OK Computer
Pink Floyd: Meddle, Animals, The Final Cut

Jazz/Fusion:
Miles Davis: (First quartet) Kind Of Blue, Milestones, Round Midnight (Second quartet) Miles Smiles, E.S.P., Files De Kilimanjaro (Fusion) In A Silent Way, Jack Johnson
John Coltrane: Blue Train, Giant Steps, Crescent, A Love Supreme
Ornette Coleman: The Shape Of Jazz To Come
Charles Mingus: Mingus Ah Um
Dave Brubeck: Time Out
Mahavishnu Orchestra: Birds Of Fire
Weather Report: Heavy Weather
Jaco Pastorius' first album

Alternative Rock:
Soundgarden: Badmotorfinger, Superunknown
Jane's Addiction: Nothing's Shocking
Alice In Chains: Dirt, Jar Of Flies
Red Hot Chili Peppers: Mother's Milk, Blood Sugar Sex Magik
Smashing Pumpkins: Gish, Siamese Dream, Melon Collie And The Infinite Sadness
The Pixies: Surfer Rosa, Doolittle, Bossanova, Trompe Le Monde, anything else you can get yer mitts on..best band ever...

Punk/Post-punk/New Wave:
Wire: Pink Flag
Bad Brains: I Against I
Minutemen: Double Nickels On The Dime
Dead Kennedys: Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
Husker Du: New Day Rising, Candy Apple Grey
Fugazi: 13 Songs
Joy Division: Unknown Pleasures, Closer, Substance
The Cure: Pornography, Head On The Door, Disintegration
New Order: Power, Corruption, And Lies
Elvis Costello: This Year's Model
Joe Jackson: Look Sharp!

[Izlsnizzt]

For those of you guys who like Dilenger Escape plan check out a band called Frantic Bleep. I bet it's right up your alley. Very fast technical metal with some truly Mike Patton-esque break downs in the middle.

[Izlsnizzt]

I'll get to some more of these recomendations tongiht when I get home. Just got some Sennheiser HD-555 and a Headroom Little Headphone amp to have some fun with tongiht.

[Dusty Chalk]

Yes, your tastes definitely seem to align with Demetrio's, FA's, and Dave G's -- although ignore him when he says ignore the rest of us, you had Mr. Bungle on your list, and I don't think Dave G has heard that, otherwise he would have lumped you in with the rest of us when he said that what we listen to is just plain weird.

But Demetrio is the greatest prog recommender of all time, so definitely listen to him. He's a virtual similarities engine.

And definitely check out Mars Volta -- I would think that someone who digs Mr. Bungle could handle the transitions, but it seems to be a love-it-or-hate-it proposition, so try to hear it first.

the notwist are a fantastic band. i actually prefer Shrink to Neon Golden, but both are great.

Hey, finally! Someone who's heard Shrink besides myself! Yes, all three of their most recent albums, Neon Golden, Shrink and 12 are great albums, on another board I listed all three as "masterpieces". And they're great live, too, completely different from what you'd expect if you've only heard Neon Golden. (They somehow turn into a guitar band live -- don't ask me how.)

And you listen to Mice Parade, too! Dude! :thumbs-up:

and here we have our first disagreement, Dusty. this happens to be among the worst "people said it was great" albums i've ever heard. her voice is amazing, but it can't save this band or their lame compositions. IMO, of course.

Well, you're welcome. To your opinion, that is. Even though it's wrong.

No, seriously, different strokes for different folks. You like to listen to stuff that's "different", I'm guessing...? See, I listen to everything, and I like what I like, including more song-oriented stuff (L, I even listen to Pop). I think the Gathering are simply fabulous, especially once Anneke joined, and everything they do is magical. Try giving them one more chance and find a copy of the Black Light District EP. But that's the only thing I'm guessing you will like by them. The rest will probably be too song-oriented for you. But BLD is almost post-rock.

Morcean Worker [A very good cd]

I think you mean Mocean Worker (no first 'r'), and yes, it is very good and enjoyable.

[Izlsnizzt]

Anyone out there like the Blues? If so check out Ronnie Earl he's a Telarc recording artist. He does some real nice instrumental Blues with guitar and piano...Mike Patton is the genrally considered by me to be "The Man" along with Frank Zappa. MY favorite song by Zappa would have to be Rubber hirt (Anyone?).

[mad rhetorik]

Mike Patton is the genrally considered by me to be "The Man"..

You too, huh? I own California as well, along with Faith No More's The Real Thing. Both albums contain some fave tracks of mine ("Ars Moriendi!" !!!!!!). I've also heard the Irony Is A Dead Scene EP that Patton cut with the Dillinger Escape Plan, and Fantomas' first album. That Fantomas album is some weird-ass shit--what else would you expect from an album featuring members from Slayer, The Melvins, and two members of Mr. Bungle? It's like muzak for asylum escapees or something.

...along with Frank Zappa.

Oh man, I can tell I probably like over half of what you own already...you're into classical, right? What do you think of Zappa's Yellow Shark? I think it's pretty damn good and I don't even like classical much.

Favorite Zappa song: Either "Willie The Pimp" or "San Ber'dino"

[Izlsnizzt]

You too, huh? I own California as well, along with Faith No More's The Real Thing. Both albums contain some fave tracks of mine ("Ars Moriendi!" !!!!!!). I've also heard the Irony Is A Dead Scene EP that Patton cut with the Dillinger Escape Plan, and Fantomas' first album. That Fantomas album is some weird-ass shit--what else would you expect from an album featuring members from Slayer, The Melvins, and two members of Mr. Bungle? It's like muzak for asylum escapees or something.




Oh man, I can tell I probably like over half of what you own already...you're into classical, right? What do you think of Zappa's Yellow Shark? I think it's pretty damn good and I don't even like classical much.

Favorite Zappa song: Either "Willie The Pimp" or "San Ber'dino"

Yellow Shark is some good shizznit. Have you ever heard of Frantic Bleep?

[mad rhetorik]

Have you ever heard of Frantic Bleep?

Nope, can't say that I have. If they're like Dillinger Escape Plan, Botch, Converge or other "math-core" bands plus a Mike Patton influence (as suggested by your earlier description), I'll have to give them a look. I also need to look into Cave-In's Until Your Heart Stops for a glimpse of their earlier sound--Antenna doesn't do this band any justice really.

[Toady]

Antenna doesn't do this band any justice really.

true that.

i just think converge is the greatest. even though they get labeled "mathy", nothing they do ever seems unnatural or forced to me. dillinger, on the other hand, always gives me that feeling. they're spectacularly talented and all, but i just can't get past the idea that a lot of what they do is for show.



i love that picture. he may be my favorite drummer.

and this might be my favorite album cover. i can't explain why...

[Toady]

Hey, finally! Someone who's heard Shrink besides myself! Yes, all three of their most recent albums, Neon Golden, Shrink and 12 are great albums, on another board I listed all three as "masterpieces". And they're great live, too, completely different from what you'd expect if you've only heard Neon Golden. (They somehow turn into a guitar band live -- don't ask me how.)

i've seen them (i've seen just about everyone!)

And you listen to Mice Parade, too! Dude! :thumbs-up:

of course! i think adam pierce is a genius. he played on a recent Mum track, didn't he?

Well, you're welcome. To your opinion, that is. Even though it's wrong.

No, seriously, different strokes for different folks. You like to listen to stuff that's "different", I'm guessing...? See, I listen to everything, and I like what I like, including more song-oriented stuff (L, I even listen to Pop). I think the Gathering are simply fabulous, especially once Anneke joined, and everything they do is magical. Try giving them one more chance and find a copy of the Black Light District EP. But that's the only thing I'm guessing you will like by them. The rest will probably be too song-oriented for you.

i listen to a lot of different things. lots of post-rock, lots of ambient stuff lately... but i still LOVE straight up rock bands like the wrens and others.

i've given the gathering their chance and i feel confident in my hatred towards them . even made a point of seeing them live. left after 3 songs...

it just ain't happening

[-Jar-]

i listen to a lot of different things. lots of post-rock, lots of ambient stuff lately... but i still LOVE straight up rock bands like the wrens and others.

Have you heard Katatonia? Man, I dig their last few albums, but I haven't gotten the new one yet... though it's not really new anymore. I just love their deep heavy almost-shoegazer riffing and the depressed Cureish vocals.

Ever heard Acid Bath? They're one of my favorite metal bands of the 90's.. Dax Riggs has got to be one of the most amazing death metal singers.. though he use his entire range..

You should name some of your favorite concerts..

a few of the hundreds that I've seen jump out at me:

Ride/Slowdive
Teenage Fanclub/Uncle Tupelo
Skinny Puppy (Too Dark Park & Last Rites tours)
Butthole Surfers/Ed Hall
Jesus Lizard (like 9 times or something)
Helmet/Rollins Band
Monster Magnet/COC/Season to Risk
Sonic Youth/Sun Ra (Central Park NYC)
Primus/Fishbone
Primus/Melvins
Rodan/Craw
Entombed/Unsane

ok I'll stop..

-jar

[Toady]

Have you heard Katatonia? Man, I dig their last few albums, but I haven't gotten the new one yet... though it's not really new anymore. I just love their deep heavy almost-shoegazer riffing and the depressed Cureish vocals.

Ever heard Acid Bath? They're one of my favorite metal bands of the 90's.. Dax Riggs has got to be one of the most amazing death metal singers.. though he use his entire range..

You should name some of your favorite concerts..

never heard katatonia. i'll check them out tonight if i get a chance.

acid bath rings a bell but i can't think of what they sound like, so i'll have to try that out too.

Converge is the only really heavy thing i'm into right now. well, that's not entirely true... i'm a huge fan of Isis as well. (boston area hardcore, represent! )

i started a new thread about favorite shows.

todd

[-Jar-]

never heard katatonia. i'll check them out tonight if i get a chance.

acid bath rings a bell but i can't think of what they sound like, so i'll have to try that out too.

Converge is the only really heavy thing i'm into right now. well, that's not entirely true... i'm a huge fan of Isis as well. (boston area hardcore, represent! )

i started a new thread about favorite shows.

todd

I assume you've followed Cave-In as well? To be honest, I've not heard much of their early stuff, UNTIL YOUR HEART STOPS has been on my wishlist like, forever. I know that track "Juggernaut" and it is killer. I adore JUPITER, but to be honest, ANTENNA just has kind of fallen flat with me. It started with the TIDES OF TOMORROW ep.. there's a couple songs on there I really like, but overall It let me down. I guess I was just high from JUPITER and the "Lost In the Air" ep. Both the songs on that EP are awesome, and I really had high hopes, but save for "Inspire," "Calypso" and "Deep Rising" - I really haven't heard that much that's totally blown me away like "Innuendo" and "Big Riff" did off JUPITER.

-jar

[Slosh]

Oops, maybe you're not going to like much on my comp but too late, I already burned copies so you're stuck with it now

Hmmm.....well, on one hand you're a fan of Mike Patton so maybe...

....but then again I'd rather be pelted with pineapples (whole, or cans of even ) than listen to Dream Theater

Ah yeah. Well listening to music beats the bloody hell out of talking about it so we'll see.

NP: Super Furry Animals - Radiator

[Toady]

I assume you've followed Cave-In as well?

not too closely. they're hard to avoid hearing around here though. i've liked most everything i've ever heard from them (i didn't like their latest at all). but i don't even own a record of theirs.