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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    Do you know if this will work with a 4th gen iPod? I've been looking for a reason to justify an upgrade. This might be it.
    It should but you may want to upgrade to a new iPod just for the gapless playback. Very nice to hear tracks that flow together with no pause in between
    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Autumn
    I don't see Lame VO @245kb/s on MM. Do I need to upgrade to the Gold version? Is Extreme VBR @ 256kbps the same? Sorry for all the questions, but I'm not very savvy when it comes to this kind of stuff.

    As for keeping stuff on my computer...I've got 150 GBs of free space, so I'm not too concerned.
    No, you only need Gold to do the on-the-fly transcodes. For ripping the free version is all you need. You may want to check if there are any updates or newer builds. Anyway, go to Rip CD > Format > mp3 > settings > use manual settings > V0. It should be in there. If not you may need to update MM. Please note this will slow down your rip time considerably but the results are well worth it.

    Extreme VBR @ 256 is quite good as well but I hear less encoding artifacts with V0 and the files end up being a bit smaller (most songs end up being in the 200-220 kb/s range but I've seen some as low as 135 and others as high as 300)

    edit: oops, missed a step
    Last edited by Slosh; 06-06-2007 at 03:24 PM.
    Originally Posted by Troy: She has that same kind of cleft-pallet, slightly retarded way of singing that so many other people find endearing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slosh
    It should but you may want to upgrade to a new iPod just for the gapless playback. Very nice to hear tracks that flow together with no pause in between
    No, you only need Gold to do the on-the-fly transcodes. For ripping the free version is all you need. You may want to check if there are any updates or newer builds. Anyway, go to Rip CD > Format > mp3 > settings. It should be in there. If not you may need to update MM. Please note this will slow down your rip time considerably but the results are well worth it.

    Extreme VBR @ 256 is quite good as well but I hear less encoding artifacts with V0 and the files end up being a bit smaller (most songs end up being in the 200-220 kb/s range but I've seen some as low as 135 and others as high as 300).
    Thanks for the help. I'm going to try this on my 4th gen. But you've given me some good reasons to upgrade too. Bigger files means that I'll probably want to go from a 40G to an 80G iPod sooner.

    Edit: The secret to finding Lame VO @245kb/s is to change to Manual Settings.
    Last edited by ForeverAutumn; 06-06-2007 at 02:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    Bigger files means that I'll probably want to go from a 40G to an 80G iPod sooner.
    80GB = about 12,000 songs!!! Well, that should keep you busy for a while
    Originally Posted by Troy: She has that same kind of cleft-pallet, slightly retarded way of singing that so many other people find endearing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slosh
    80GB = about 12,000 songs!!! Well, that should keep you busy for a while
    I know it's probably overkill, but if I'm going to buy a 30GB, it seems kind of silly not to pay the relatively small additional cost to increase the memory by 160%. Besides, if I have the option of video, I'll probably download some TV shows to watch when I'm travelling. And I'll use it to store pictures too.

    ....not that I'm trying to rationalize or anything.

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    I find myself wishing my 20-GB pod w/ monochrome screen would just up and die or something, so I could justify buying a new one. But no...I seem to have the most indestructable one ever built. Just my luck!

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    I'm honored by your quote Slosh. I think.

    Yes, I only use this and the movie forum here. My bookmarks drop me directly into each forum page.

    Yeah, 3LB, it's a common misconception that iTunes requires you to repurchase your music when it's really great for simply ripping your CD collection too. It is simply the easiest, most elegant interface for working with music on your computer.

    Dave, the thing about iPods is that you use the computer for compiling and organization of your music and then take the iPod and interface it with your car or your living room big rig system. Yeah, you use the computer for organization, but the iPod gives you the ability to use ALL your music anyplace.

    3498 songs in mine, and I like every single one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    I'm honored by your quote Slosh. I think.
    My quote?
    Originally Posted by Troy: She has that same kind of cleft-pallet, slightly retarded way of singing that so many other people find endearing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slosh
    No, you only need Gold to do the on-the-fly transcodes. For ripping the free version is all you need.
    Just an FYI... Last night I tried to rip a disk to MP3 using MM. I got a message which basically said that my 30 day trial period was over and MM will no longer use MP3 encoding on the free version. Would I like to upgrade to Gold?

    The upgrade is only $20, which is pretty reasonble for a decent piece of software, so I don't mind paying for it. There's probably ways around it, but I'm too lazy to find them.

    ....I'm still contemplating that iPod upgrade and now I'm questioning whether I really need an 80GB, or if I can get by with 30GB, since I've only used up half of that in two years. Has anyone downloaded TV shows or movies onto their iPod. How much space do they take?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    Just an FYI... Last night I tried to rip a disk to MP3 using MM. I got a message which basically said that my 30 day trial period was over and MM will no longer use MP3 encoding on the free version. Would I like to upgrade to Gold?

    The upgrade is only $20, which is pretty reasonble for a decent piece of software, so I don't mind paying for it. There's probably ways around it, but I'm too lazy to find them.

    ....I'm still contemplating that iPod upgrade and now I'm questioning whether I really need an 80GB, or if I can get by with 30GB, since I've only used up half of that in two years. Has anyone downloaded TV shows or movies onto their iPod. How much space do they take?
    I didn't know that because I'm using Gold. Check your PM

    I never put video on mine (or my Toshiba which also does video). I don't even do pictures (except if you count album art).

    My friend asked me if I could put some albums on my iPod that weren't on my PC (that I don't want permanently on my PC) so I ripped them to VO (I know how to transfer stuff from the iPod to other computers). Wow, it's slow. About five minutes per CD on my machine. Still worth it for the improved sound quality but it'll take forever if you're rebuilding your library. Best use it for new CDs only.
    Originally Posted by Troy: She has that same kind of cleft-pallet, slightly retarded way of singing that so many other people find endearing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slosh
    I didn't know that because I'm using Gold. Check your PM

    I never put video on mine (or my Toshiba which also does video). I don't even do pictures (except if you count album art).

    My friend asked me if I could put some albums on my iPod that weren't on my PC (that I don't want permanently on my PC) so I ripped them to VO (I know how to transfer stuff from the iPod to other computers). Wow, it's slow. About five minutes per CD on my machine. Still worth it for the improved sound quality but it'll take forever if you're rebuilding your library. Best use it for new CDs only.
    There's a few disks where I definately notice the lost quality on MP3 so I'll replace those for sure, and then I'll slowly replace the rest of them. I usually rip a bunch of CDs at a time and read a book while I'm doing it, to pass the time. I'm interested in seeing how much larger the files are too.

    I'll try the VO over the weekend and let you know how I fare. Thanks for your help!

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