Does every one here like Wilco and/or Coldplay?

[Mr Peabody]

I really like the Outlaws. Some of their early more Country tinged stuff was hit & miss but the later more Rockin stuff is pretty amazing, but what can you expect for having 50 lead guitar players no not really 50 but a few at once.

[Hyfi]

I really like the Outlaws. Some of their early more Country tinged stuff was hit & miss but the later more Rockin stuff is pretty amazing, but what can you expect for having 50 lead guitar players no not really 50 but a few at once.

They were the first to have 3 lead guitars at same time. All of them were excellent in 75 and at the end of the show, Lynyrd Skynyrd was last up, the 3 guys from the Outlaws came out and pretty much blew LS off the stage.

I will miss Hughie's vocals as he died a few years ago. Interesting enough, they became popular in 75 with the Green Grass album but were in existence in 1967. Also, over the years, there have been no less than 29 different people in the band.

I'm seeing them in an old theater that holds about 640 people so it should be a nice show. Have to wait til November though.

[Troy]

I like eggs and clams more than Wilco and Coldplay.

There is no 'new' music. Very little current popular music isn't a rehash of the music that came before.

[Hyfi]

I like eggs and clams more than Wilco and Coldplay.

There is no 'new' music. Very little current popular music isn't a rehash of the music that came before.

At what point / year would you say that started? It does seem like there is nothing anyone can do that we have not already heard. So is music dead unless you want to hear band after band doing pretty much the same thing, as we have now?

[Troy]

At what point / year would you say that started?

I dunno, 1990-ish? Discounting rap/hip hop 'cuz I just don't give a crap, pretty much everything in the last 20 years of popular music has been a copy of something from the 60s and 70s. Maybe a little denser and heavier, but it's all just a rehash.

It does seem like there is nothing anyone can do that we have not already heard. So is music dead unless you want to hear band after band doing pretty much the same thing, as we have now?

Pop culture and technology combined in the 60s and 70s to create a new form of music never heard before in the history of humanity. We've basically been repeating it ever since.

There's always some new kind of music to discover out there, whether it's traditional Indian Ragas or Gamelan or Peruvian pan flutes or old English sea shantys, or whatever. But in rock music as an avenue for expanding music in general? Yeah, totally dead.

I've felt this way about it for many years now and I'm fine with it. I still enjoy listening to all kinds of rock music, every single day of my life, but any sort of expectation that some new band is going to scratch that itch for invention that got scratched during the golden age of rock? Ain't gonna happen.

Last time I saw Umphrey's McGee live, the audience was 95% in their 20s and acted like the band had invented their form of semi-improvisational progrock. They were so reverential for the band, so "OMG OMG, they are so brilliant and groundbreaking!!" UM is a blast to see live and they are extremely talented writers and musicians who work together as an ensemble as good as any band I've ever seen in the 30 years I've been seeing rock shows, but don't act like they somehow have moved rock music to some new plateau.

I don't begrudge anyone liking Wilco and Coldplay. Or the White Stripes or Green Day or any of the other hugely popular rock acts today. Enjoy yourself, but yeah, it's all been done before.

[ForeverAutumn]

Last time I saw Umphrey's McGee live, the audience was 95% in their 20s and acted like the band had invented their form of semi-improvisational progrock. They were so reverential for the band, so "OMG OMG, they are so brilliant and groundbreaking!!" UM is a blast to see live and they are extremely talented writers and musicians who work together as an ensemble as good as any band I've ever seen in the 30 years I've been seeing rock shows, but don't act like they somehow have moved rock music to some new plateau.

I think this becomes a generational issue. I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying but for those 20-yr-olds, that music IS groundbreaking. They haven't heard the bands that influenced Umphrey's McGee, or Coldplay or Linkin Park or any of today's popular or fringe bands for that matter. How many kids think the Warren Zevon music that Kid Rock recorded his recent hit to (I don't know the name of the song) is original? Most of 'em is my guess.

I was watching a local morning show last week where the cast is made up mostly of 20 somethings. They were doing a quiz show where all the answers had 'Rat' in them. None of them could name The Boomtown Rats as the artists who sang I Don't Like Mondays.

The music culture that we grew up with is now history. And the 20-somethings of today don't know a damn thing about it unless they are listening to their parents music or care enough about music to learn about it themselves.

[Hyfi]

The music culture that we grew up with is now history. And the 20-somethings of today don't know a damn thing about it unless they are listening to their parents music or care enough about music to learn about it themselves.

Many of the teens that are children of my friends are listening to Zep and Floyd

[3LB]

There is no 'new' music. Very little current popular music isn't a rehash of the music that came before.

I agree completely. But it doesn't have to mean that there's nothing to listen to. Some bands are just better at what they do than others. The Rolling Stones weren't terribly original - neither was Led Zepplin, but they were great at what they did and they put enough of a unique spin on it that made it new, in a way.

But I don't know of any band that I'll follow religiously like people once did (and maybe still do). I love Porcupine Tree, but Wilson's begun to repeat himself. Same with Wilco - nothin knew here, but Jeff Tweedy is great at being Jeff Tweedy; you either like Wilco or you don't.

As for music itself, there is greater choices out there than there has ever been. One doesn't have to be a completist. If I like what Spoon has done over the course of a few albums, it doesn't mean I'm obligated to buy everything they release. Same with The Shins.

Same with old Prog acts. Genesis is a good example. The last album Phil Collins recorded with them sounds nothing like they did back in the early '70s. But that's neither here nor there; you either like it or you don't - funny thing is, there's still people who want to nash their teeth over the band's change of direction, either way. If you like it, buy it. I tried old Genesis, found liked some of it, but I like less of Gabriel brand Genesis than I like Collins brand. Just cuz I feel I like Prog, I don't feel I need to get ELP, Gentle Giant, or early King Crimson (I have no use for them). I love Yes, but have no love for albums like Relayer or Tormaturd or half their post '80 output.

As for Coldplay, I liked them live and in person (not terribly impressed with the free live CD)...but it doesn't make me regret I traded away two of their CDs, nor does it make me a fan of their studio albums. I had fun with them for one night, left my money on the nightstand and snuck out.

If you have to try to like music you're entirely missing the point. If I don't have an "ah ha" moment with new-to-me music fairly early on it's time I move along.

Like Slosh said, you ain't havin no fun if yer trying too hard. As much an effort as we make trying to find new music and then finding time to listen, music is best when it just happens. You can overload on music, especially trying to sample different genres at once. If something don't grab ya, put it down for a while, and then some time later, put it on again - if it still don't grab ya, move on. So what are you missing? - nuthin.

[bobsticks]

I like Wilco quite a lot...Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, 3:00am and teh live stuff they did with Billy Bragg all get regular plays around here...

I like eggs and clams more than Wilco and Coldplay.

There is no 'new' music. Very little current popular music isn't a rehash of the music that came before.

I too have an affinity for both eggs and clams, but that's not fair. Coldplay is one of the best U2 cover bands out there.

[Swish]

I like Wilco quite a lot...Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, 3:00am and teh live stuff they did with Billy Bragg all get regular plays around here...



I too have an affinity for both eggs and clams, but that's not fair. Coldplay is one of the best U2 cover bands out there.

U2 cover band? Hmmm. I was thinking Radiohead Lite, as most label them.

Chi town awaits.

[Hyfi]

U2 cover band?

Wow, for me the only thing worse than U2 would be a U2 cover band.

[02audionoob]

Wow, for me the only thing worse than U2 would be a U2 cover band.

How about an REM cover band?

[bobsticks]

U2 cover band? Hmmm. I was thinking Radiohead Lite, as most label them.

Chi town awaits.

Barely alive and barely kickin' though I know you're not the one I wanna sprechen to bout PItA situations right now....

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