The last time there was a Ringo bashing thread on this board our pal MindGoneHaywire posted that very same piece.

It's interesting, but I have a couple of comments.

The matched grip thing is huge, yes.

Numbers 1, 3 and 4 don't really have to do with him being a good drummer.

I question whether 5 was his doing and not George Martin's.

6 and 8. I just don't know. Is perfect time more important than dynamics? Frankly, the fill at the end of "The End" he cites sounds like crap to me. It's slow, lumpy and terribly undynamic. Absolutely no creativity of flair . . . but yes, it IS in time.

My conclusion is that Ringo is like Charlie Watts. A very proficient and professional journeyman drummer. His playing served the music, I mean, you wouldn't want the Beatles to have Neil Peart, ya know? The drums were not supposed to be the focus of the band. He'd overpower the songs or would have held himself in check to much that we never would have known how great he was. But i DO think that Ringo could have offered more to the band.