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    Re: Hey Dusty,
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    I was wondering, do you use a headamp, especially with your AT sets? I'm starting to show interest in a tube headamp. For somem reason I think you use a Creek OBH-21 or the SE.

    If so, I would love to know how they match up.


    L yeah, I'm a complete headphone geek, I'd be happy to answer.

    I have several headamps. The Creek OBH-11SE is one I've mentioned before, maybe that's what you're thinking of. And yes, it is a good match for pretty much any headphone, I have yet to throw one at it that it can't handle (actually, I haven't tried it with the Leatherhead yet, I should do that...). Not the OBH-11, that's a completely different design, I really like the OBH-11SE. It crosses some threshold which I find very satisfactory. I don't know how that translates to the current lineup of Creeks with the OBH-21 and OBH-21SE (I think), you may want to ask that over on Head-Fi. I suspect the big difference is that the OBH-11SE is a Mosfet design, where'as the OBH-11 is just opamp stuff (I think).

    I also have a Singlepower Supra++, and Wheatfield HA-2, but those are both quite a bit more expensive. I also own one of the entry level Stax setups --
    this one, which I use on a daily basis, but I really would like to add tubes to that lineup somewhere -- back to the Creek, let's put it this way -- I don't think it needs tubes, it's that good.

    I also own the Musical Fidelity X-CANv2. I would also recommend the current model, I've heard it, and I endorse this product.

    Feel free to post any part or all of this post if you'd like to move this discussion to the public.


    is what Dusty said..

    So, thank you sir and I will reply later.

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    What he said...er, that is, what I said.
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    Yarland P-100 tube headphone amp

    While were on the subject of headphone amps I purchused a great Chinese tube amp about two months ago.The amp is the Yarland P100 tube amp and can be had at www.tsto.com for $350.While there I sold my Creek 21se amp which was a hunk of junk compared to the Yarland.

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    Creek 21SE is a hunk of junk? Interesting. Was it good before you heard the Yarland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergymunster
    That looks pretty sweet for the price. Where do you get replacement 6N3?

    http://www.audiotriodes.com/en/

    This is the site I used to get 3 pairs of 6N6 tubes. Before that, I order about 6 pairs from other sites before I knew what I was supposed to use. 6N6-T is what I was looking for, not 6N6-P. So, are you supposed to be using 6N3J or 6N3P?

    Yurland looks great, but if I can't find replacements, then I'm not looking to get one that is basically disposable. But that's not too bad, considering how much NOS tubes go for.

    How do you like the sound of EL-84? It is more neutral than other tubes you've tried?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    That looks pretty sweet for the price. Where do you get replacement 6N3?

    http://www.audiotriodes.com/en/

    This is the site I used to get 3 pairs of 6N6 tubes. Before that, I order about 6 pairs from other sites before I knew what I was supposed to use. 6N6-T is what I was looking for, not 6N6-P. So, are you supposed to be using 6N3J or 6N3P?

    Yurland looks great, but if I can't find replacements, then I'm not looking to get one that is basically disposable. But that's not too bad, considering how much NOS tubes go for.

    How do you like the sound of EL-84? It is more neutral than other tubes you've tried?

    Thank you,

    JRA
    I'm finding out that the stock tubes are great as is.This is my first tube amp and I have been on head-fi where some members have already purchused it.Everyone says it's well worth the money.I have some Russian 6P14P EB tubes for the EL84's in mail and some Russian 6N3P tubes for the 6N3 comming later.There is some speculation that the stock Chinese tubes maybe Russian anyway.The Chinese are trying to make a statement that there tubes are well worth consideration where before they would put junk tubes in.

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    damn, are you about to start a new trend here in AR?

    That sounds pretty nice.

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    That reminds me of another one -- the Xiang Sheng 708B (which also has some weird tubes in it). Another one I would buy if I had the cash, and needed yet another entry level headamp.

    Did I mention my two Radii units? I can't believe I forgot about them. The HAP-03 and the HAP-02 -- the HAP-02 is basically an MG Head clone (12A_7 + 2xEL84 configuration), and the HAP-03 is just this cute tiny little guy (see link for tube complement). The HAP-03 had some quality control issues early on, but they've since been resolved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    That reminds me of another one -- the Xiang Sheng 708B (which also has some weird tubes in it). Another one I would buy if I had the cash, and needed yet another entry level headamp.

    Did I mention my two Radii units? I can't believe I forgot about them. The HAP-03 and the HAP-02 -- the HAP-02 is basically an MG Head clone (12A_7 + 2xEL84 configuration), and the HAP-03 is just this cute tiny little guy (see link for tube complement). The HAP-03 had some quality control issues early on, but they've since been resolved.
    Thems some nice amps Dusty

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    i remember i heard creek 21(non se version) with a hd580 long long time ago(that's before i pay any attention to audio stuff). it shocked me. but that was long long time ago. is the creek better or worse than yarland p100? i don't know but i'm not so sure you can compare them. one is a tube and one is solid state. i'm still thinking if i should get the yarland or darkvoice 336i, that's another great tube chinese amp from the review i read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonethugz
    i remember i heard creek 21(non se version) with a hd580 long long time ago(that's before i pay any attention to audio stuff). it shocked me. but that was long long time ago. is the creek better or worse than yarland p100? i don't know but i'm not so sure you can compare them. one is a tube and one is solid state. i'm still thinking if i should get the yarland or darkvoice 336i, that's another great tube chinese amp from the review i read.
    I thought the Yarland sounded better then the Creek 21se on the basis that I perfer the tube sounding amps.These are two completely different sounding amps so I probably should not have compared them.With that said I'm thilled to own the Yarland as it's another relatively inexpensive amp from China.There are many good ones out there now and I assume the Darkvioce would be in contention although I have not heard it.Only you can make the decision between the two.I do know this, that six Head-fi members bought the Yarland and It really hasn't been available that long.

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    Hey Fergy,


    Where did you order your 6N3P from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    Hey Fergy,


    Where did you order your 6N3P from?
    I'm getting them from Skylab who is a member of head-fi.He bought the Yarland and ordered a bunch of 6N3P's from Russia.They should be here in about four days.I'm currently running the stock Chinese 6N3's.By the way I got my Russian 6P14P EB tubes today that replaced my stock Chinese EL84's.Sounds really nice.

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    Update

    Put stock Chinese EL84's back in.The Russian ones didn't mate well with the stock Chinese 6n3's.In other words the stock Chinese tubes are great as is makling the Yarland quite appealing.

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    Fm -- have you tried Ei Elite EL84EG (gold pins) yet? My favourite EL84 tube, and it's current production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    Fm -- have you tried Ei Elite EL84EG (gold pins) yet? My favourite EL84 tube, and it's current production.
    No I havn't.I'm thinking of quiting this tube rolling escapade as the stock Chinese tubes sound really good together.

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    Do it! If you've found something you're happy with, then by all means, stick with it!
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    i've read the review from him(skylab), by the way, i'm from there. the bonethugz here is the bonethugz there. i'm still choosing getting either this or the darkvoice. i'm leaning towards the darkvoice though

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonethugz
    i've read the review from him(skylab), by the way, i'm from there. the bonethugz here is the bonethugz there. i'm still choosing getting either this or the darkvoice. i'm leaning towards the darkvoice though
    Were waiting on Skylabs official review.He gave a spotty here and there summary of it.Anyway,why don't you try the Yarland for 30 days and if you don't like it send it back.I think you'll be in for a real treat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    Do it! If you've found something you're happy with, then by all means, stick with it!
    I just got some RCA 6BQ5's for replacement of the stock Chinese EL84's.WOW,night and day improvement.My searching for tubes has finally ended.I feel like I won the lottery with all the different EL84's tubes out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergymunster
    My searching for tubes has finally ended.
    Try switching back to your stock Chinese tubes after about 2,3 months. That should keep you from rolling tubes for a bit longer... Will see.

    Good to see alot of headamp options out there, with tons of tubes.

    EarMax anyone?

    JRA

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    EarMax Pro is excellent. The regular (non-pro) one is quite mediocre from all reports.
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    Seems like I've only read negative reviews on the regular model. Reviews sound kinda like stock EAR 834P vs. Deluxe reviews.

    http://www.pacificvalve.us/DOGE6210.html

    This product looks to be a new one. Pairs of 84 and 12AX7? Hmmmm maybe if I.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    That reminds me of another one -- the Xiang Sheng 708B (which also has some weird tubes in it). Another one I would buy if I had the cash, and needed yet another entry level headamp.
    Not sure if that 6N1 will do anything in terms of operation.. Isnt it just there for the looks? Not sure though.

    I'm really starting to get sick of those goddamn chinese amps. I dont understand their stragedy at all. If they wanna start selling more units in US, there should start using 6N11, 6N23, 6N8P, 6N9P, and others that are easy to find.



    Dear China-men,

    Please, no more bullshjt tubes.
    We dont like'em
    If you stop this non-sense, you will make more money. Trust me.
    Just spend 1, 2 extra Yuan per tube.

    Stop it
    Do it.

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    Not sure if that 6N1 will do anything in terms of operation.. Isnt it just there for the looks? Not sure though.
    Personally, I like it. A friend of mine got one, and he said that when he did some research, he found out that it was connected, but I never followed up or anything. I don't know what he found out or how, but knowing him, he probably just went straight to the source and emailed the person he purchased it from.
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