State of the Union

[jeskibuff]

That is really funny because it was I that challenged you to show and explain your "common sense". (Post on 02-09-2005, 08:18 AM )

Not quite. You challenged me to write a book encompassing several general topics. It was a ridiculously unreasonable request. I explained why it was unreasonable. You ignored my explanation, continuing to believe your fantasy that it was a reasonable request. Do you EVER listen to a response or do you just like listening to yourself babble on? I told you that if you zeroed in on a SPECIFIC aspect of ONE of those topics, then that would be reasonable. What part of that DON'T you understand? Sheesh!

You then decided do a good ol switcheroo to make it look like you challenged me. (Post on 02-11-2005, 07:03 AM)

There is only a "switcheroo" occurring inside your feeble imagination. I merely set down some rules for POLITE & CIVIL debate. There's no doubt that you've tried every excuse in the book to cower out of that simple, REASONABLE and FAIR challenge. People can only wonder why, can't they? Like I said, it's not like it's an invitation to an Hamilton/Burr style duel.

You claim that this is all common sense and that I have no sense at all. Prove it!

First of all, you don't seem to have the basic common sense to understand that a request for someone to expound on several GENERAL topics is unreasonable, especially on an internet message board. Geez, people complain that my posts are too long anyway and you want me to write a book, ESPECIALLY FOR YOU??? What part of that DON'T you understand? THIS IS JUST COMMON SENSE. You HAVE NONE!

I have asked you to show even some of your common sense and you skirted around this idea.

Nope. You asked me to write a book. Now I am tiring of repeating the same old questions. WILL YOU EVER GET IT, or do I need to get some kind of internet endless loop message device to feed you the same old answers? This is a common problem when engaging people like you. This is my THIRD TIME trying to communicate the same thing to you. Either you ignore what is written or you're just TOO DENSE to comprehend simple concepts. Which is it?

What you really want is for me to tell you how I feel about an issue and then you will destroy this view with your common sense. I wanted to have a discussion.

So you're AFRAID of getting your feelings demolished by common sense, are you? If they can be vaporized by common sense and reason, shouldn't they be tossed out the door anyway? Do you REALLY want to hang on to viewpoints that have no basis in reality? You don't want to have a discussion. You're AFRAID to have a discussion. You're afraid to get into a debate where I've neutralized your only weapon which is the comment "you are blinded by propaganda". Without that ammunition you find yourself defenseless, don't you?

You wanted to smear someone (me) on this board.

I have no desire to smear ANYONE. I DO have the desire to expose the ridiculous logic that you embrace, as the moronic mindset that you possess is like a nasty cancer that needs to be eradicated. Getting rid of lunacy can only make the world a better place in which everybody can live.

That is clearly shown in your last post by stating that you had backed me into a corner. I hope you are proud of yourself. What a man!!

You ARE backed into a corner, I am proud of myself and I'm quite the man! You have only ONE option to get out of the corner you're in. That ONE option is to take my challenge. Weaseling out of it just keeps you cowering in the corner. Cower away, JeffKnob!

Now I don't even want to discuss these issues with you anymore. I don't care anymore.

I had to look this up in my Whiner-to-English dictionary. It translates to: "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh"!

You can call me a coward and people on this board can make up their own mind about me and you. I know that I am not a coward and all the people that are important to me know that I am not a coward so why do I care what you think of me.

Well you should care, because such cowardice and distance from reality can only have adverse affects on your own lifestyle, outside of an internet message board.

You don't need to hold your own trial for me. That is just childish. Who is pathetic now?

Why YOU are of course. Is there any doubt?

I am so glad to know that you think about the many people who are reading this and judging us. I frankly don't care. People can think what they want. This message board is not my life. Judging by your behavior and actions you should be a lot more worried about how people are going to perceive you after this.

I don't care a flip about what anyone on this board thinks of me, so it's not like I'm out to win a popularity contest for my own self validation. I do enjoy dissecting flimsy arguments to expose them for the trash that they are. Mindsets like yours need to be dealt with so that other people won't be sucked in by such flawed philosophy. It also entertains me as an interesting study in human behaviour. Thanks for presenting yourself as such a willing subject!

I knew you were thinking "f-a-g", but I didn't want to bring up your homophobia. I know that traumatic event on the river that day still haunts you.

Man, I just can't get that banjo music out of my head. And no one told me they were filming the whole thing!

Maybe if you confront it head-on we can help you with it.

My doctor says there's nothing that can be done. Every third week I get this urge to just go out and KILL KILL KILL someone. I tried to just substitute by torturing puppies and kittens, but it just didn't have the same effect. Now just talking about it works up my desire.
I think it's about time I took out a trial lawyer.
Know of any??

[JeffKnob]

Not quite. You challenged me to write a book encompassing several general topics. It was a ridiculously unreasonable request. I explained why it was unreasonable. You ignored my explanation, continuing to believe your fantasy that it was a reasonable request. Do you EVER listen to a response or do you just like listening to yourself babble on? I told you that if you zeroed in on a SPECIFIC aspect of ONE of those topics, then that would be reasonable. What part of that DON'T you understand? Sheesh!

There is only a "switcheroo" occurring inside your feeble imagination. I merely set down some rules for POLITE & CIVIL debate. There's no doubt that you've tried every excuse in the book to cower out of that simple, REASONABLE and FAIR challenge. People can only wonder why, can't they? Like I said, it's not like it's an invitation to an Hamilton/Burr style duel.

First of all, you don't seem to have the basic common sense to understand that a request for someone to expound on several GENERAL topics is unreasonable, especially on an internet message board. Geez, people complain that my posts are too long anyway and you want me to write a book, ESPECIALLY FOR YOU??? What part of that DON'T you understand? THIS IS JUST COMMON SENSE. You HAVE NONE!

Nope. You asked me to write a book. Now I am tiring of repeating the same old questions. WILL YOU EVER GET IT, or do I need to get some kind of internet endless loop message device to feed you the same old answers? This is a common problem when engaging people like you. This is my THIRD TIME trying to communicate the same thing to you. Either you ignore what is written or you're just TOO DENSE to comprehend simple concepts. Which is it?

So you're AFRAID of getting your feelings demolished by common sense, are you? If they can be vaporized by common sense and reason, shouldn't they be tossed out the door anyway? Do you REALLY want to hang on to viewpoints that have no basis in reality? You don't want to have a discussion. You're AFRAID to have a discussion. You're afraid to get into a debate where I've neutralized your only weapon which is the comment "you are blinded by propaganda". Without that ammunition you find yourself defenseless, don't you?

I have no desire to smear ANYONE. I DO have the desire to expose the ridiculous logic that you embrace, as the moronic mindset that you possess is like a nasty cancer that needs to be eradicated. Getting rid of lunacy can only make the world a better place in which everybody can live.

You ARE backed into a corner, I am proud of myself and I'm quite the man! You have only ONE option to get out of the corner you're in. That ONE option is to take my challenge. Weaseling out of it just keeps you cowering in the corner. Cower away, JeffKnob!

I had to look this up in my Whiner-to-English dictionary. It translates to: "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh"!

Well you should care, because such cowardice and distance from reality can only have adverse affects on your own lifestyle, outside of an internet message board.

Why YOU are of course. Is there any doubt?

I don't care a flip about what anyone on this board thinks of me, so it's not like I'm out to win a popularity contest for my own self validation. I do enjoy dissecting flimsy arguments to expose them for the trash that they are. Mindsets like yours need to be dealt with so that other people won't be sucked in by such flawed philosophy. It also entertains me as an interesting study in human behaviour. Thanks for presenting yourself as such a willing subject!

Man, I just can't get that banjo music out of my head. And no one told me they were filming the whole thing!

My doctor says there's nothing that can be done. Every third week I get this urge to just go out and KILL KILL KILL someone. I tried to just substitute by torturing puppies and kittens, but it just didn't have the same effect. Now just talking about it works up my desire.
I think it's about time I took out a trial lawyer.
Know of any??

It always amazes me how you just seem to prove my point everytime you respond. Your vicious degredation of me shows a lot for your character. Your insults just fall off my back because I am just a better person than you. Nobody is going to listen to a person that treats other people like you. Nobody will listen to your view when they see that you have fun degrading people when they disagree.

I purposely chose not to accept your challenge based on your additude. You have showed no signs that you can have a civil discussion so why would I want to give you a second chance. 51% of the country voted the way you did so I have plenty of people I can discuss topics with to learn what makes their "logic" tick.

How many more times do I have to explain why I am not going to discuss politics with you? You just keep making wild assumptions about me based on nothing but your worthless "common sense".

Get a clue!! I don't want to talk politics with you because you don't want to talk politics. You want to degrade my ideas because they are different than yours and because they are different, there is no way that they could be right. To not even consider alternatives is just plain ignorant. That is my main problem with you. You discredited them before they were even told to you.

[dean_martin]

I think it's about time I took out a trial lawyer.
Know of any??

Uhhh...I'm just a simple country lawyer. You should probably start with those smarty-pants big city lawyers in New York and Chicago. Good luck. Let me know when you're heading down this way...please.

[jeskibuff]

It always amazes me how you just seem to prove my point everytime you respond.

The only thing that continues to be proven here is your cowardice and total delusion.

Your vicious degredation of me shows a lot for your character.

Your extreme cluelessness indicates you have no character. Your continual evasion just keeps reminding us of your cowardice.

Your insults just fall off my back because I am just a better person than you.

Naw. They "fall off your back" mainly because you are the only one that doesn't see how well those insults fit, like hand-in-glove. Or perhaps you do realize that they apply but have way too much pride to admit it.

Nobody is going to listen to a person that treats other people like you.

In your dreams, maybe.

Nobody will listen to your view when they see that you have fun degrading people when they disagree.

I don't have fun degrading people. There's nothing I would like better than for you to remove yourself from fantasyland and get with the program. In the long run it'll make you a better person. And you don't just "disagree" with me. You argue without a basis for your argument. The only retort in your arsenal is an insult, then you wonder why you get insults in response to it.

I purposely chose not to accept your challenge based on your additude.

It's painfully obvious that you choose not to accept my challenge because you don't have the capability to do so and are one big scared-y cat. Anybody with a smidgen of self awareness would step up to the plate if for nothing else, just to prove that they could hold their own in such a conversation. But noooooooo you won't do that, because you and I (and everybody else) KNOW that you can't do it. It would be the simplest thing in the world to take the challenge instead of cowering like such a blowhard. You could prove me wrong immediately if you only would.

It reminds me of a Joe Scarborough article I read yesterday ("What Democrats need to do to win", or something like that. Sorry, no link. MSNBC is not responding this morning). Scarborough gave a lucid point-by-point analysis on what Democrats need to do to regain political power. At the end of the article he explains why he gives away so many secrets to a party whom he would prefer to remain out of power. The reason? He knows the Democrats are TOO STUPID to take his advice!

So likewise, here am I telling you what you need to do to prove me wrong. I'm laying out a roadmap for you. All you would have to do is pick it up and follow the instructions. But you won't BECAUSE YOU CAN'T! Go ahead...prove me wrong!

You have showed no signs that you can have a civil discussion so why would I want to give you a second chance.

I made a promise that I would if you would. Now put your money where your mouth is and stop cowering, will you? I'm confident that I can and I'm confident that you can't do the same. You're all talk and no action, aren't you? Prove me wrong!

51% of the country voted the way you did so I have plenty of people I can discuss topics with to learn what makes their "logic" tick.

And what good would that do? Given your inability to carry on a courteous and rational discussion, your penchant to resort to your only ammunition ("you're blinded...") and your inability to grasp the obvious, there's nothing that that 51% could possibly say that wouldn't just bounce off your impenetrable cranium.

How many more times do I have to explain why I am not going to discuss politics with you?

Oh, you don't need to convince me that you're incapable of civil discussion. We already know that. The fun is just watching you squirm as you make up all sorts of lame excuses why you won't do so.

You just keep making wild assumptions about me based on nothing but your worthless "common sense".

There's no wild assumptions being made here. It's quite obvious you're a coward and a blowhard. There's one way to prove me wrong: TAKE THE CHALLENGE!

Get a clue!! I don't want to talk politics with you because you don't want to talk politics.

Now there's a "wild assumption" if I've ever seen one. I've got plenty of examples of courteous political conversations I've had with people I've disagreed with.

You want to degrade my ideas because they are different than yours and because they are different, there is no way that they could be right.

There's little possibility they could be right simply because you yourself are incapable of defending them with anything but "you're blinded...". I'm always open to thoughtful analysis. You have nothing to offer in that regard. You believe what you want to believe without analyzing it.

To not even consider alternatives is just plain ignorant.

I wholeheartedly agree. When will you take your own advice?

That is my main problem with you. You discredited them before they were even told to you.

Have a link? I didn't think so.

I think it's about time I took out a trial lawyer. Know of any??

Uhhh...I'm just a simple country lawyer. You should probably start with those smarty-pants big city lawyers in New York and Chicago. Good luck. Let me know when you're heading down this way...please.

I don't think I could tell the difference between a simple country lawyer or a smarty-pants big city one. Maybe it's because I'm guilty of slathering on too much barbecue sauce so it masks the true flavor. Whatever the case, I think the fava bean & Chianti combination has been waaaay overblown and certainly not to my liking!

[JeffKnob]

The only thing that continues to be proven here is your cowardice and total delusion.


Your extreme cluelessness indicates you have no character. Your continual evasion just keeps reminding us of your cowardice.


Naw. They "fall off your back" mainly because you are the only one that doesn't see how well those insults fit, like hand-in-glove. Or perhaps you do realize that they apply but have way too much pride to admit it.


In your dreams, maybe.


I don't have fun degrading people. There's nothing I would like better than for you to remove yourself from fantasyland and get with the program. In the long run it'll make you a better person. And you don't just "disagree" with me. You argue without a basis for your argument. The only retort in your arsenal is an insult, then you wonder why you get insults in response to it.


It's painfully obvious that you choose not to accept my challenge because you don't have the capability to do so and are one big scared-y cat. Anybody with a smidgen of self awareness would step up to the plate if for nothing else, just to prove that they could hold their own in such a conversation. But noooooooo you won't do that, because you and I (and everybody else) KNOW that you can't do it. It would be the simplest thing in the world to take the challenge instead of cowering like such a blowhard. You could prove me wrong immediately if you only would.

It reminds me of a Joe Scarborough article I read yesterday ("What Democrats need to do to win", or something like that. Sorry, no link. MSNBC is not responding this morning). Scarborough gave a lucid point-by-point analysis on what Democrats need to do to regain political power. At the end of the article he explains why he gives away so many secrets to a party whom he would prefer to remain out of power. The reason? He knows the Democrats are TOO STUPID to take his advice!

So likewise, here am I telling you what you need to do to prove me wrong. I'm laying out a roadmap for you. All you would have to do is pick it up and follow the instructions. But you won't BECAUSE YOU CAN'T! Go ahead...prove me wrong!


I made a promise that I would if you would. Now put your money where your mouth is and stop cowering, will you? I'm confident that I can and I'm confident that you can't do the same. You're all talk and no action, aren't you? Prove me wrong!


And what good would that do? Given your inability to carry on a courteous and rational discussion, your penchant to resort to your only ammunition ("you're blinded...") and your inability to grasp the obvious, there's nothing that that 51% could possibly say that wouldn't just bounce off your impenetrable cranium.


Oh, you don't need to convince me that you're incapable of civil discussion. We already know that. The fun is just watching you squirm as you make up all sorts of lame excuses why you won't do so.


There's no wild assumptions being made here. It's quite obvious you're a coward and a blowhard. There's one way to prove me wrong: TAKE THE CHALLENGE!


Now there's a "wild assumption" if I've ever seen one. I've got plenty of examples of courteous political conversations I've had with people I've disagreed with.


There's little possibility they could be right simply because you yourself are incapable of defending them with anything but "you're blinded...". I'm always open to thoughtful analysis. You have nothing to offer in that regard. You believe what you want to believe without analyzing it.


I wholeheartedly agree. When will you take your own advice?


Have a link? I didn't think so.


I don't think I could tell the difference between a simple country lawyer or a smarty-pants big city one. Maybe it's because I'm guilty of slathering on too much barbecue sauce so it masks the true flavor. Whatever the case, I think the fava bean & Chianti combination has been waaaay overblown and certainly not to my liking!

I believe you have found the correct party for yourself. You continue to degrade an bully me just like Bush feels he is destined to do to the world.

You see me as a coward. I see you as a bully. I know my reason for not "challenging" you is because you are not a worthy debator. You think you are hot $hit and feel a need to prove it to yourself and others. I have the balls to know that I don't have to prove anything to anyone. Did mommy not give you enough attention growing up? Why is it so important to lash out at me? Do you feel that you are saving the world from another liberal? It is time to stop being a mercenary.

Go ahead and think I am a coward. The more mature people reading this thread will realize that isn't true, but you wouldn't know anything about maturity. Bully's aren't mature. Your credibility is gone. At this point your opinion means nothing so a debate about politics is nothing. Give it up.

[jeskibuff]

I believe you have found the correct party for yourself. You continue to degrade an bully me just like Bush feels he is destined to do to the world.

Gawd! I can't fault you for having no imagination, can I? First off, bozo, you need to get a handle on some basic concepts. A bully is generally someone who can't muster the courage to fight someone that might offer them a fair challenge. The bully looks for the weak and timid in order to bolster their own self-image. Their overall feeling of worthlessness gets cast aside temporarily when they can manage to demean someone else, hoping that they are momentarily seen as superior in some manner as compared to their target. By asserting some unfair advantage that they have over their prey, they hope that others will think more highly of themselves.

One glaring characteristic of a bully is that they will run in the opposite direction when someone of greater stature challenges them. They can only prey on someone weaker than themselves. Take away the bully's advantage and make it a fair fight and the bully will try to find every excuse under the sun to escape the challenge. Sound familiar?

Bush a bully? Then I imagine you think Saddam was a harmless gnat. Your value system is obviously all warped and inverted. Saddam brutalized and terrorized his people for decades. Millions died at his command. Bush showed the world that Saddam was the coward, finally digging him out of a hole in the ground. Millions of Iraqis now have the opportunity to live in freedom. Yet you somehow have the "brilliant" idea to label Bush the bully. I don't think I'll ever understand why some people can demonstrate so little mental acuity such as you display.

You see me as a coward. I see you as a bully.

I see you as a cowardly bully. I challenged you to a fair fight on a level playing field. The rules are established: we both put down our weapons (in this case "insults") and see who prevails. Hey, nobody even has to prevail! If it's a civil discourse, EVERYBODY wins and learns something! Again, you obviously are afraid of such an engagement, as is evidenced by your flaming cowardice demonstrated in your last fifteen? posts in this thread. Why are you so afraid? Is it because you cannot hold your own without your insults? (pay no mind to the rhetorical question)

I know my reason for not "challenging" you is because you are not a worthy debator.

That is a wild and incorrect presumption on your part. If you feel you can prove your presumption, TAKE THE CHALLENGE. Anything else just means those cowardly feet of yours have to keep a'dancin', doesn't it?

You think you are hot $hit and feel a need to prove it to yourself and others.

I don't need to prove a thing to anyone about myself. I have more than enough self confidence in my abilities and intelligence and don't need to pull some screwy stunt on the internet to get respect out of people I don't even know and probably never will meet. I do feel the need to put a cowardly braggart in his place though.

I have the balls to know that I don't have to prove anything to anyone.

A bold statement, but deep down inside you know you're just a blustery coward, don't you? Wishful thinking gets you nowhere.
A noble try though.

Did mommy not give you enough attention growing up?

Maybe too much, in my opinion. Kind of overprotective, if you ask me. But enough of you trying to turn the spotlight on me and off of your cowardly self. Let's get back on track...

Why is it so important to lash out at me?

Simply because you claim to be someone you're not. You match the profile of a bully, no doubt about it. You accuse others of attacking with insults when you yourself only have insults as your ammunition. You're a hypocrite. Now take the challenge and learn something instead of shivering like a scrawny chihuahua in a snowstorm, making up any excuse under the sun to avoid it.

Do you feel that you are saving the world from another liberal?

Naw. The last election taught me that there are more people in this world who are aware of liberal stupidity and will eventually succeed in marginalizing liberals into oblivion. The Dan Rathers, Michael Moorons, Jacques Chiracs, John Kerrys and Sean Penns have shown their true nature and the world finds them to be self-serving idiots. Open your fat mouth to spew your mindless drivel while you're singing at the Aladdin casino and the patrons will boo you out the door! Dump billions of dollars into smear campaigns and we just laugh as you fools and your money are soon parted, pumping more into the U.S. economy. We just love the looks on your face as the real poll outcomes differ from the exit polls and the slanted "DU'ed" opinion polls.

You spent so much money. You threw so much mud. You had the media chanting your mantra. How could you still lose? Short answer: you're idiots, and more than enough people know it! Enough people who were willing to wait in line for hours to ensure the loudmouthed liberals wouldn't achieve victory.

The Democratic Party is officially dead. The denial of reality and inability to properly assess and do damage control spells out certain demise. The election of Dean to head the DNC just nails that coffin tightly shut.

It is time to stop being a mercenary.

Feeling a bit beat up, I gather? Sorry, but I got this thing for truth and justice and the American Way. You're getting a healthy dose of justice in this thread...coward! Besides, someday you may thank me for helping to exorcise this demon of stupidity who currently possesses your soul. By the way, isn't it time for your tag team buddy to come in and give you a break? Can't he see how bloodied up you're getting, or does he just not care?

Go ahead and think I am a coward.

Oh, so I needed your permission?

The more mature people reading this thread will realize that isn't true, but you wouldn't know anything about maturity. Bully's aren't mature. Your credibility is gone. At this point your opinion means nothing so a debate about politics is nothing. Give it up.

Keep dancing your jig! You need to learn some new steps though. You're wearing a hole in the floor! And the "more mature people" can easily see you how you are cowering away from a fair challenge. As I said before, it's not a like it's a gun duel!

[JeffKnob]

Gawd! I can't fault you for having no imagination, can I? First off, bozo, you need to get a handle on some basic concepts. A bully is generally someone who can't muster the courage to fight someone that might offer them a fair challenge. The bully looks for the weak and timid in order to bolster their own self-image. Their overall feeling of worthlessness gets cast aside temporarily when they can manage to demean someone else, hoping that they are momentarily seen as superior in some manner as compared to their target. By asserting some unfair advantage that they have over their prey, they hope that others will think more highly of themselves.

One glaring characteristic of a bully is that they will run in the opposite direction when someone of greater stature challenges them. They can only prey on someone weaker than themselves. Take away the bully's advantage and make it a fair fight and the bully will try to find every excuse under the sun to escape the challenge. Sound familiar?

Bush a bully? Then I imagine you think Saddam was a harmless gnat. Your value system is obviously all warped and inverted. Saddam brutalized and terrorized his people for decades. Millions died at his command. Bush showed the world that Saddam was the coward, finally digging him out of a hole in the ground. Millions of Iraqis now have the opportunity to live in freedom. Yet you somehow have the "brilliant" idea to label Bush the bully. I don't think I'll ever understand why some people can demonstrate so little mental acuity such as you display.

I see you as a cowardly bully. I challenged you to a fair fight on a level playing field. The rules are established: we both put down our weapons (in this case "insults") and see who prevails. Hey, nobody even has to prevail! If it's a civil discourse, EVERYBODY wins and learns something! Again, you obviously are afraid of such an engagement, as is evidenced by your flaming cowardice demonstrated in your last fifteen? posts in this thread. Why are you so afraid? Is it because you cannot hold your own without your insults? (pay no mind to the rhetorical question)


That is a wild and incorrect presumption on your part. If you feel you can prove your presumption, TAKE THE CHALLENGE. Anything else just means those cowardly feet of yours have to keep a'dancin', doesn't it?


I don't need to prove a thing to anyone about myself. I have more than enough self confidence in my abilities and intelligence and don't need to pull some screwy stunt on the internet to get respect out of people I don't even know and probably never will meet. I do feel the need to put a cowardly braggart in his place though.


A bold statement, but deep down inside you know you're just a blustery coward, don't you? Wishful thinking gets you nowhere.
A noble try though.


Maybe too much, in my opinion. Kind of overprotective, if you ask me. But enough of you trying to turn the spotlight on me and off of your cowardly self. Let's get back on track...


Simply because you claim to be someone you're not. You match the profile of a bully, no doubt about it. You accuse others of attacking with insults when you yourself only have insults as your ammunition. You're a hypocrite. Now take the challenge and learn something instead of shivering like a scrawny chihuahua in a snowstorm, making up any excuse under the sun to avoid it.



Naw. The last election taught me that there are more people in this world who are aware of liberal stupidity and will eventually succeed in marginalizing liberals into oblivion. The Dan Rathers, Michael Moorons, Jacques Chiracs, John Kerrys and Sean Penns have shown their true nature and the world finds them to be self-serving idiots. Open your fat mouth to spew your mindless drivel while you're singing at the Aladdin casino and the patrons will boo you out the door! Dump billions of dollars into smear campaigns and we just laugh as you fools and your money are soon parted, pumping more into the U.S. economy. We just love the looks on your face as the real poll outcomes differ from the exit polls and the slanted "DU'ed" opinion polls.

You spent so much money. You threw so much mud. You had the media chanting your mantra. How could you still lose? Short answer: you're idiots, and more than enough people know it! Enough people who were willing to wait in line for hours to ensure the loudmouthed liberals wouldn't achieve victory.

The Democratic Party is officially dead. The denial of reality and inability to properly assess and do damage control spells out certain demise. The election of Dean to head the DNC just nails that coffin tightly shut.


Feeling a bit beat up, I gather? Sorry, but I got this thing for truth and justice and the American Way. You're getting a healthy dose of justice in this thread...coward! Besides, someday you may thank me for helping to exorcise this demon of stupidity who currently possesses your soul. By the way, isn't it time for your tag team buddy to come in and give you a break? Can't he see how bloodied up you're getting, or does he just not care?


Oh, so I needed your permission?


Keep dancing your jig! You need to learn some new steps though. You're wearing a hole in the floor! And the "more mature people" can easily see you how you are cowering away from a fair challenge. As I said before, it's not a like it's a gun duel!

Again, with your posts, you just keep proving the points I have been making about you. Calling someone a coward is a great way to challenge them. (sarcasm) The only way I would be dumb is to actually take that challenge that "you" made. (I have already made the point that I was actually the one that made the challenge). The real morons would actually succumb to your childish banter. If you chose to discuss things, rather than label me with things like coward and moron, I might have done so. Why would I give in to your requests when you obviously have no idea of what respect is? You call it cowardice. It is like meeting someone for the first time and all they do is demean you. So if you don't become their friend or at least talk to them you must be a coward. It is called being selective of who you talk to and choosing the people who respect the views and feelings of other people. I am a confident person and will walk away from people who have no concept of respect. Again you call it cowardice but obviously have no grasp of what that label means. You can't seem to fathom why I have not stepped up to the plate. You then make up wild reasons that make yourself look good. I have CLEARLY explained why I am not going to discuss this with you. How many more times does it take for it to sink in? I challenge you to read my posts over and over again until you can grasp the reason I am not discussing politics with you so that I don't have to keep wasting my time wondering why you just don't get it.

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Again, with your posts, you just keep proving the points I have been making about you.

Points? You made points? Point out your points to me PLEASE! All you are doing is dancing, hoping against all hope that people don't see you as the coward that you are.

Calling someone a coward is a great way to challenge them. (sarcasm)

Oh, I knew from the beginning that you were too much of a blowhard to take the challenge. You don't have the capacity to carry on a reasonable civil debate. All we're left with now is to be entertained as you come up with every lame excuse in the world to evade the challenge.

The only way I would be dumb is to actually take that challenge that "you" made. (I have already made the point that I was actually the one that made the challenge).

You're quite the fool. I told you no less than 3 times that your "challenge" was unreasonable. I laid it out in very simple terms. I repeat: I am not going to write a book for someone who wouldn't digest it if I had. Do I have to say it 4 times or more? (guess I just did, eh?) Are you just TOO DUMB to understand the concept? I told you to GET SPECIFIC rather than being so general. All I get is the same glazed-eye deer-in-the-headlights look out of you as if I'm speaking another language.

The real morons would actually succumb to your childish banter.

Oh, but you are a real moron. I've had you dancing from many posts back. I said a while ago that I had you painted into a corner. That was true then. It's true now. You just keep denying the obvious, that's all!

If you chose to discuss things, rather than label me with things like coward and moron, I might have done so.

No you wouldn't. You'd continue to cower and whine just as you're doing now. The fact is that you have no basis for your arguments so you're incapable of carrying on reasoned discussion on hot topics. That is why you have to resort to your standard retort: "you are blinded by propaganda". There's only ONE WAY to prove me wrong and you refuse to do so, so you just continue to prove me right. Why are you such a coward?

Why would I give in to your requests when you obviously have no idea of what respect is?

Respect is given when respect is deserved. You deserve none, so you get none. Now if you made a valiant effort to conduct a civil conversation without insults, then perhaps you'd get some respect where it would be warranted. Until then you just get ridiculed for being such a coward and a blowhard.

It is like meeting someone for the first time and all they do is demean you.

Of course, you conveniently left off the part where you insult them upon meeting them. Then you wonder why you're demeaned?

So if you don't become their friend or at least talk to them you must be a coward.

No, if you show yourself to be a clown incapable of polite social interaction then are challenged to either "put up or shut up" yet continue to make a never-ending effort to duck the challenge, THAT makes you a coward. You're like a drunken guest at a party. Everyone can see that you're totally inebriated. You say you're not (with slurred speech). We challenge you to walk a straight line and you come up with every excuse you can think of to avoid doing so. We laugh at your inability to even stand up straight.

It is called being selective of who you talk to and choosing the people who respect the views and feelings of other people.

Oh good, yet ANOTHER lame excuse. So you will only discuss topics with people who you respect, eh? Well let me take you down memory lane. I'm sure most everyone recalls the biggest idiot who ever posted on this board. He initially called himself "The Troll", then later reincarnated himself as "Bush Is A Liar" and several other monikers he tried to sneak in with after he was banned. This world-class idiot had earned zero respect, yet he challenged me to post my opinions concerning the Israel/Palestinian conflict. He continually badgered me for it and I told him that it was coming, that it took some time and I would do it on my own schedule, not his. Eventually I got the time, put together a lengthy but cogent response and posted it.

This bozo Troll couldn't take even ONE of my points and dissemble it! All he could do is take the cowardly way out and say "you're an idiot". It didn't surprise me, as it follows the pattern for most of you blowhard liberals.

The point I'm making here is that The Troll had very little respect from me, much less from everyone else. Yet I took the effort to take him up on his challenge, pretty much anticipating his exact response. I knew he didn't have the substance to respond, but my effort was worth it by putting out the information for ALL to see. As I recall, no one ever disputed even one my points. Too bad we can't dig up those old posts anymore.

So, why is it that I can respond to a challenge from someone who I have no respect for, yet you cannot? Maybe because you're a C-O-W-A-R-D????

I am a confident person and will walk away from people who have no concept of respect.

Naw. You're just a coward digging up any excuse you can find to get out of a challenge.

Again you call it cowardice but obviously have no grasp of what that label means.

Not true. I looked it up in my dictionary and there was your picture!

You can't seem to fathom why I have not stepped up to the plate.

Yes I can. You're a cowardly blowhard, THAT'S WHY!

You then make up wild reasons that make yourself look good. I have CLEARLY explained why I am not going to discuss this with you. How many more times does it take for it to sink in?

There's nothing to "sink in". Excuses are excuses, and that's all you're capable of.

I challenge you to read my posts over and over again until you can grasp the reason I am not discussing politics with you so that I don't have to keep wasting my time wondering why you just don't get it.

Your posts are too boring. Besides, I have read this entire thread several times though, just to make sure I wasn't missing anything. My responses are spot-on EVERY TIME. And man, you're really taking quite a pounding, aren't you?

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Death match in the Thunderdome, Mad Max style. J v J.

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Death match in the Thunderdome, Mad Max style. J v J.

Not gonna happen my friend.

Wild horses couldn't drag him into a civil debate as he digs his fingernails into the dirt. I've said no less than 3 times that my challenge was no Thunderdome duel, if just to calm his nerves and alleviate his fears.

No dice.

But he'll say that he's got the gonads to go there, won't he?

Actions speak louder than words.