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Kimbo?....I've known for 24 hours and I'm still speechless...not sure...don't know...um, yeah...
Tito ducked Babalu and Mousasi refuses to meet at a catch weight...not sure what's gonna go down but WAR AFFLICTION...my money's on the fact that they still put together a better card than UFC's 100, 101, and 102 combined...
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Kimbo?....I've known for 24 hours and I'm still speechless...not sure...don't know...um, yeah...
Tito ducked Babalu and Mousasi refuses to meet at a catch weight...not sure what's gonna go down but WAR AFFLICTION...my money's on the fact that they still put together a better card than UFC's 100, 101, and 102 combined...
Any show that gets Megadeth gets my PPV dough. New rule.
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I have also been eagerly awaiting Brown vs. Faber II on 6/7 over at the WEC. Faber is one heck of a little fighter. I think he made a mistake in the first match and got caught. I think he is clearly the better fighter and will take Brown in the 1st round this time. Mainly because he is pissed off about letting himself get beat.
Faber is pound for pound the best fighter in the WEC...not named Mike Brown. That wasn't a lucky shot. Brown had Faber scouted pretty well, and was waiting for that spinning back elbow - stepped to the left while delivering a right hook - text book boxing.
I love Faber, don't get me wrong, but he's done himself an injustice fighting in a system where his weight class is afraid of him. Brown was the first guy to fight Faber and not show fear. Even Jens Pulver was tentative against Faber, being content just to last. Brown fought to win in the first fight...
...as well as the second. Like I said, I am a Faber fan, but it sure is surreal seeing Faber getting manhandled. Brown is the real deal and is at the moment, better than Faber 2-0. Faber will get better because now he finally has someone in his weight class that is his equal and doesn't show up just to kiss his ass and let him get away with stupid WWE crap he pulled while defending his (now Mike Brown's) belt.
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:mad5: UFC 99 was a pile of crap!
Kinda funny to see Cro Cop stab Dana in the back though. He is the master of hyperbole, but I do love seeing him get a taste of his own medicine once in awhile.
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Wow...the TUF finale was better than the last 3 ppv I shelled out money for. Clay Guida and Diego Sanchez never disappoint, and Diaz and Stevenson put on one of the more entertaining jiu-jitsu matches I've seen in a long time.
My boy DaMarques didn't win...didn't look good either, but oh well. Helluva free show.
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Wow...the TUF finale was better than the last 3 ppv I shelled out money for. Clay Guida and Diego Sanchez never disappoint, and Diaz and Stevenson put on one of the more entertaining jiu-jitsu matches I've seen in a long time.
My boy DaMarques didn't win...didn't look good either, but oh well. Helluva free show.
Amen to all these thoughts. Guida and Sanchez put on one of the better shows this year...but, again, that ain't sayin' much. I'm getting tired of constant lackluster performances. In the recent "Unleashed:Knockouts" series that they ran (circa 2004/2005) almost any fight on the card beat most of this year's snoozefests. I'm getting bored with UFC.
I'm getting more and more g'd up for Affliction...if Joshy doesn't get Zulu'd it could be a match for the ages.
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Aaiiight Kex, I'm gunnin' for ya...finally!!!....the sigbet!!!...
...I'm sayin' best two outta three for UFC 100....this Saturday bay-bay....
...Proposition:
....I'll take Lesnar, Alves, and Bisping...
...you want some?
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Aaiiight Kex, I'm gunnin' for ya...finally!!!....the sigbet!!!...
...I'm sayin' best two outta three for UFC 100....this Saturday bay-bay....
...Proposition:
....I'll take Lesnar, Alves, and Bisping...
...you want some?
Hmmm, I wanted Lesnar and Bisping too...definitely taking St. Pierre but in a much closer fight than many expect.
But in the interest of leaping before I look, let's go. Mir, GSP, and Henderson it is...
I mo' cut you up, Sticks!
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What did we agree for terms? 2 weeks, pics included in sig, and avatars are fair game?
You see that gold on my shoulder...gonna take more than some fake Stinger to take that away from me...
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What did we agree for terms? 2 weeks, pics included in sig, and avatars are fair game?
You see that gold on my shoulder...gonna take more than some fake Stinger to take that away from me...
I'm fine with those stipulations...
..."Gold"?, meh, I see something pink and furry in your future.
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I'm fine with those stipulations...
..."Gold"?, meh, I see something pink and furry in your future.
Low blow...you leave my marrital enhancement apparatus out this! :mad5:
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Wow.
Ok, you're up one early...can't beleive Bisping purposely circled left...directly into the right hand of Hendo...again, wow...
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Lawl...alright ya bastage...I've cleared out my PM box...do your worst...
...I'm callin' Guido right now to triple up on Mir just to break even...
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Btw... GSP won me over tonight...amazing, fantastic and classy...easily my favorite French Canadian...I hope he can find a girl without armpit hair...
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Not entirely surprised about Bisping...always felt his opponents underperformed, but I thought maybe he'd be more aggressive with a jab, chase Henderson instead of running away all the time. Lost a lot of respect there.
GSP dominated Alves but I like Alves' potential...Let the record show I beat the Stick man with a lame horse...that's gutsy. I tore a hip flexor doing squats once and coudln't imagine fighting with any strength.
Having secured my victory I will cheer with my heart and hope Lesnar wins now... used to like Mir but he's become far too cocky and I hope he and Nog meet again.
You'll get your medicine on Monday or Tuesday, as soon as the airlines find my laptop...I went easy on you this time...
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I'll not be a sore loser, to you anyway... I've called my peeps and I'm now more concerned with the financial repercussions...
..do your worst, I've earned it...
...dammit
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Wow...the smack-talk after the fight might have been more entertaining than watching Lesnar cell-mate Mir.
Normally I hate that stuff, Mir had some coming cause of all the jive he was spitting for the last year or so...Lesnar could have looked like a superhero if he had the brains to be gracious.
Makes me wonder if Dana is coaching him to be the new Bad Boy in the UFC? Guess when you're the biggest bully in the world you can say whatever you want.
Don't get mad at Brock though, poor guy can't afford a Bud Light I guess.
You'll get a chance to avenge yourself at UFC 101...
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Makes me wonder if Dana is coaching him to be the new Bad Boy in the UFC? Guess when you're the biggest bully in the world you can say whatever you want.
You'll get a chance to avenge yourself at UFC 101...
It's playground chit like that that make me wonder if the Last Emperor isn't headed, if only for a brief period, to the UFC...follow the drama, follow the plot line...
...and, yes I will...
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and BTW, Aleks has already stated that he'd like to fight in the UFC...if only he make customs...
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Well this is flamin' embarassin'...and worse yet, there's technical problems with whatever diabolical signature the evil-Kex has planned....
...oh, do let me know...
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You have a PM...but I suppose I coulda posted it here...kindly cut and paste this code into your sig and wrap the IMG tags around it:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_yDwIo198iNI/Sl...400/sigbet.jpg
(newfangled technology)
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There will so surely be hell to pay...
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There will so surely be hell to pay...
Looking good my friend.
While I could pull a Frank Shamrock and retire, that would be no fun.
UFC 101 isn't far away...:ciappa:
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Looking good my friend.
While I could pull a Frank Shamrock and retire, that would be no fun.
UFC 101 isn't far away...:ciappa:
Why, yes....yes it is....mwa ha hahahahaha....
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Btw, out of curiosity, just who's nuts was I hugging?
Lol, there were no Red Devil Fighters on the card...
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Btw, out of curiosity, just who's nuts was I hugging?
Lol, there were no Red Devil Fighters on the card...
Damned if I know. I had help from my 9 year old cousin. He calls everyone a nut hugger and uses the term in a variety of contexts I've never heard before...So I ran with it...
Option B was a super imposed Brandon Lee head over Michael "Down for the Count" Bisping's body, but it still retained a sense of manliness about it. And we couldn't have that now, could we.
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Yeah that ain't far off.
Bisping is going to have a HARD time bouncing back form this one. He had been lucky with his opponents not performing well or being clearly a step below his abilities until Hendo, but now he's going to have that KO fear to overcome. You can't, and don't replicate that in training...
But if he does overcome it...he'll be a much better fighter for it. Can't wait for his comeback fight...any ideas who it could be?
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Bisping is going to have a HARD time bouncing back form this one. He had been lucky with his opponents not performing well or being clearly a step below his abilities until Hendo, but now he's going to have that KO fear to overcome. You can't, and don't replicate that in training...
True talk. Back in the day, whenever I'd get jacked hard and take a major fail I had a very simple routine....take about ten shots of tequila, a lil' Peruvian marching powder, and then go pick a bar fight....the equivalent of fighting a "can". Bottom line, it's all about the desensitization to violence. You can have all the technique in the world but if yer brain goes into standby it's over.
That fight was no different than the last couple Liddel fights in that within seconds of the opening bell I was standing, screaming at the set. How Ya gonna circle into somebody's strong hand...angles were crap...
Y'all Hendo fans are brutal, btw...
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Okay...
I missed any video of the postfight meltdown, any links. I want to see this for myself.
Da Worfster
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Whattup Worfster...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ziwld-JLiAs&feature=fvsr
It's hard to find an actual clip cuz the UFC is pretty draconian while they're still offering replays but when the boss is pissed there's obviously an issue.
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Ha ha ha...don't think they're Hendo fans as much as Bisping haters.
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...And the oddsmakers take a beating...Josh Barnett tests positive for steroids in the first ever pre fight test. The results were announced a few days ago by the California Athletic Commission after tests taken a full two months before the event.
Though problematic for any number of reasons, Vitor Belfort is currently the best bet to step up a weight class and face the champ at the next Affliction show...
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an interesting read about the politics behind the scenes
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/07/23/c...ifornia-state/
CSAC: Josh Barnett Failed First Random Drug Test in California State History
There are still many questions that have been left unanswered in the wake of Josh Barnett's positive test for an anabolic steroid, which has forced Affliction to find a new opponent for Fedor Emelianenko on August 1. FanHouse spoke to the California State Athletic Commission's assistant executive officer, Bill Douglas, Wednesday evening to find out more about this situation and what it means for Barnett's MMA future in the United States.
The full interview with Douglas is below.
Ariel Helwani: Is there any chance that Barnett could be cleared to compete on August 1?
Bill Douglas: It's doubtful it will be a possibility given the time frames necessary to properly process a sample like this. One of the reasons why it was done so early ahead of time for the bout was one: it was largely an unannounced test. I mean, essentially when the decision was made, Josh had 48 hours to appear to go ahead and take the test; and two: taking the processing times into account, knowing that if sample one comes back with a positive result, and this is how it would be for anybody, it's going to result in action. So, the probability is low that it's going to be done in time.
What was his reaction when you informed him of the news?
He was notified [Tuesday] actually. And he's been the upmost professional, as anybody would expect of him, just fantastic in terms of the news receipt. I have nothing but the highest compliment to pay him in terms of his professionalism, the consummate professional truthfully.
He didn't raise any kind of issue about this at all?
Nope, not a fuss.
Did he ask for this test to take place?
No, he did not.
Did Fedor Emelianenko have to take a similar test?
No, he did not. It was just a random selection.
How does the random selection process work? In other words, how do you come to the decision that a particular fighter is going to be tested?
Well, in some cases it's a random selection truthfully. I mean, just whomever the staff member will decide to select, and in some cases if there's prior history, that is also a flag, it is. Especially in the case of athletes that may have a previous violation, as recognized by another athletic commission, it allows us that opportunity to test that individual and require a clean test prior to renewal of a license.
Since this is Barnett's second positive test, does this mean he will never be allowed to fight in California again? (Ed. note: In 2002, Barnett tested positive in Nevada for the steroid, Boldenone, following his victory over Randy Couture. He was subsequently stripped of the UFC heavyweight title.)
No, actually if you look at this, it is a license denial; a denial of the license for this bout. So it's a little different from some things in the past. There is no suspension here. There is no fine. So theoretically, if Josh were to fight out of country, there would be no opposition because we don't have the jurisdiction outside of our boundaries in other countries when it's a case like this. If he were to go to another state, it's really up to that state's athletic commission what action they want to take. There have been cases in the past where they have looked at a license denial from a commission and they could potentially say, 'You know, we're going to honor that state's license denial, we're not going to grant licensure here.' And there have been other states that have said, 'You know what? That state has denied you, but we're going to go ahead and grant you that license.' It's really as simple as that.
Why did Barnett have to apply for a new license when he fought in California last January?
Because ... he received his first one off of the prior fight with Pedro Rizzo.
So, because that was the first time he had fought in the United States on over two years, he had to apply for a license, which he got it, and then as a result, that allowed him to fight in the second fight against Gilbert Yvel?
Exactly. Because he was still licensed, and in the timing of this fight on August 1, his license from the Pedro Rizzo fight was expired, so this was a brand new license for him. Because the license he got under the first two times for Affliction was actually in effect from July of 2008.
Many fighters have openly questioned the CSAC's testing methods in the past. Do you feel comfortable with everything that has transpired in terms of this particular testing process?
The inspector that observed this particular test is one of our drug testing experts in terms of the correction procedure, and works on many events of this nature, and oversees a lot of the drug testing that's performed by our staff. In this particular case, this was a hands-on test that he performed himself.
So in terms of the correction procedure, it was flawless as recognized by the laboratory upon delivery of the sample the same day. And in terms of the lab itself, we have been using the same lab that tests the NFL and the International Olympic Games, as recently as the last Games, they tested every sample ever took there. They test the NCAA for all the sports, all minor league baseball. It's a very, very tough lab to dispute - the best of them all.
Can you shed some more light on the banned substance he tested positive for, Drostanolone?
Yeah. It's been classified by the laboratory as a true anabolic steroid.
Can there be any other reason for one to have it in their system?
No, it's currently a prohibited substance, where in this case -- this is one of the substances that is prohibited from even having the mere presence of it in your system. Sometimes there are threshold cutoffs with certain drugs that people may use. This is one of those substances where the mere presence of it in the urine is a positive finding.
Were there high levels of it in his system?
The levels of it were not calculated in terms of this particular drug because it is one of those drugs where the mere presence is enough.
Has Affliction contacted the commission about a possible replacement yet?
No, we've just heard the rumors that have been out there, but nothing concrete at this time.
Would you have an issue if his opponent were to be Vitor Belfort, considering the fact that he was supposed to fight at 185 pounds and would now be fighting a heavyweight?
It's hard for to me say about that at this time, but considering the other two names that I've seen there, I think it'd be likely that the other two be a lot easier to approve at this point than that one. Not to say that's it's not an approvable fight; there are just a lot of questions that need to be asked. There would be some quick decisions that would need to be made, and until we have something concrete, we are not prepared to move in that direction. Not to say that it wouldn't, it's just that we don't have anything concrete at this time.
Will anyone else be randomly tested for this particular event?
Potentially, but definitely for other upcoming events. ... Because in terms of the Barnett test, even though the rules had passed in the earlier part of this year, allowing a test of this nature to occur, California was truly breaking new ground here even though Nevada has done similar testing for quite some time, this is the first time it had ever been done in California. So we really didn't know what it was going to be like, or how it was going to work out. Particularly in the case of, where you're randomly calling someone up and you say, 'You have x amount of hours to appear for this test, or x amount of days,' because literally that phone call can come at any time. So it was almost a trial, so to speak, to see what the process was going to be like moving forward so we can learn from this. And it just so happens that the first one we've ever done here in California produced a result.
This is the first one ever?
First one ever. I mean, right out of the gate.
That's incredible.
It's unbelievable.
Have you done any since?
No, because at this point it was truly a trial case because this was a different type of test in terms of the setting. Normally, we're testing in settings where the place, the location, everything is predetermined; everybody knows where they're going to be, and the athletes know they're going to be tested. Everybody knows that stuff ahead of time. And in California it's generally done after the win, or in some cases day of fight. But everybody knows generally when it's coming. This was something so unique because we have never done it before.
Is it safe to say that all fighters are aware of the fact that they could be called upon to take a random drug test?
Well, I would hope so considering that we did a press release on the rule changes back when they first occurred. And actually I remember that going out because I had a hand in not only typing it, but releasing it. It went out where it was reported. A lot of times information is shared through various reporting sites, through the media, and that's where a lot of people get their information. Particularly when it comes to the martial arts community, sometimes that's the most effective way to communicate something that's coming out. And I remember when the rule change hit, because a lot of Web sites picked up and reported on it. And so I figured that at some point licensees were going to see that and say, 'Ok, there's been a change here.' But there were also some people internally in the office that figured, 'Is anybody really going to get it or pay attention until there's an incident?' And now there is one.
What an unfortunate turn of events.
Yeah, I'm surprised. I'm shocked.
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Vitor used to be my fav...would love to see him beat Fedor...wouldn't bet a nickel on it though.
This points out a real problem to me in the MMA world right now - a lot of the other promotions use UFC casts-offs, 2nd rate fighters, spot-pickers, and guys more worried about getting their fair share than actually fighting.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the way Dana White treats fighters like carnival employees until he has no choice, but the risk for Affliction et al is every time a Barnett or Kimbo Slice happens you lose credibility...which only solidifies the UFC's stranglehold on the sport.
I don't see any way Fedor doesn't go to the UFC to beat up Brock Lesnar now...Dana could pay him double what he wants and still make money on that one fight.
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Well geez...I almost sound prophetic in my last post now...bye-bye Affliction...
Hope to see Tito come back again...I still think he and Machida have another fight in them.
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This just cements in my mind that he prefers fighting casts offs and has-beens rather than taking on the best of the best. He's the Lennox Lewis of MMA. And he fears Lesnar. I'm very sad about this...he could have made a zillion dollars and cemented his legacy....instead we get this. Bah.
On the flip side, I'm glad there's still another game in town keeping the UFC honest.
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This just cements in my mind that he prefers fighting casts offs and has-beens rather than taking on the best of the best. He's the Lennox Lewis of MMA. And he fears Lesnar. I'm very sad about this...he could have made a zillion dollars and cemented his legacy....instead we get this. Bah..
Well, now you're just instigating. First, I doubt that Fedor is scared of anyone. Moreover, you can't tell me that Overeem, Werdum, Monson, Kharitonov, Rodgers and Buentello don't match up in every way with whatever list of UFC top heavies you want to draw up.
As far as making money goes, Fedor is a paid partner in M-1 Global with whom Strikeforce has agreed to partner. I would imagine he's making as much, if not more than he would be under a binding exclusive contract with UFC. Besides, it's only a three-fight contract...
...which leads us to remember that on Fedor's side of the globe the names I mentioned are much more respected than Lesnar or Couture (who they think is a can) and they've probably never even heard of Velasquez or Carwin.
Finally, I think it's important to remember that Fedor is an extremely humble, extremely family-oriented man whose main training partners are "little" brothers Ivan and Aleks. Because of his criminal background Aleks has had a difficult time gaining entry into the US, which may well be a contributing factor in the decision. We're talking about a guy that has spent his winnings buying a mansion for his mum while driving a Toyota himself.
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On the flip side, I'm glad there's still another game in town keeping the UFC honest.
Absolutely. History has never shown monopolies to be beneficial for any industry in the long-term sense...just ask Vince MacMahon, lol....
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Just in case you were interested, a group photo of those amazing Emilianenko brothers, two of which are top-ten heavies on the planet...
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