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Hey Kex,
You got any vaseline?
...I think GSP's new cornerman will need to borrow some...
...hehehe
LOL. I can only assume Penn's camp was complaining about the additional weight advantage the vaseline gave GSP over BJ, because he was on top beating the tar out of him for most of the meaningful seconds of that fight.
It's not like they don't all grease up on baby oil or whatever in the room before the fight...
I thought Dana's comments were the best "Some Vaseline on a guy's back didn't change the outcome of that fight, but you don't do it."
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I choose to ignore the silliness of "Vaselinegate" and focus on the following:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
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Rashad finally starting to get some respect I see. There's a guy that still has some upside if he wants to improve. I'm afraid his biggest threat is that his natural talent already leads him to believe he's the greatest. He needs a loss to piss him off and bring him down a peg. The best fighters get hungrier after an upset.
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Hey Kex,
What'd you think about Paulo Thiago's uppercut-left hook combo KO over Koscheck ? That's what ya gets for leadin' with yer chin, eh? It could prolly be argued that the fight was stopped prematurely but, damn, you just can't roll like that in the Big Show.
I'm thinkin' Maia's lateral drop into a triangle on Chael Sonnen was the move of the night...
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Originally Posted by bobsticks
Hey Kex,
What'd you think about Paulo Thiago's uppercut-left hook combo KO over Koscheck ? That's what ya gets for leadin' with yer chin, eh? It could prolly be argued that the fight was stopped prematurely but, damn, you just can't roll like that in the Big Show.
I'm thinkin' Maia's lateral drop into a triangle on Chael Sonnen was the move of the night...
I replayed that a dozen times because I was rooting for Koscheck...but you can clearly see Koscheck's eyes were glossed over, rolled up in the back of his head and he was a gonner. IF Thiago wanted to pounce on him he could have done some serious damage. Great stoppage there. I was pretty shocked cause he's shown he's had a half decent chin in the past and that shot didn't look particularly devastating...Might have been one of those mouth-open stunner shots...he was gone for a few seconds though and despite his fast recovery I really think it was the right call.
He's such an aggressor in the cage that he does leave himself exposed from time to time. That was ok because his chin wasn't made of glass until yesterday, now I think fighters might not show him as much respect.
Felt bad for Stevenson -he's got to learn some better finishing techniques cause his offence was pretty by the book. And Sanchez read it. I got the feeling that if it went 5 rounds though, things might have been pretty damn interesting. Diego wasn't giving him any problems really and the longer it went, the less he fought, makes me wonder if Stevenson could have pulled off the upset with more time.
Maia's move was pretty good - I think Sonnen was expecting him to roll and not wrap the leg around him.
Gouveia got exactly what he deserved, and probably needed. Marquardt didn't look so great as much as he looked in better shape, more prepared, and no real gaping holes in his game. Gouveia needs to decide if he wants to be at the top of the weight class or just fight on the undercard. He's got the tools and skill, just not the work ethic I think.
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Yeah, but no matter what Sonnen expected what he got what a rather Spider-like toss and a quick exit. Good stuff, I felt.
Overall it thought it was a pretty decent show despite the lack of mainstream marquee names...don't get me wrong, there was alot of talent in 95 but nobody's nuthugging Nate Marquart.
Lol, and speaking of nuthugging, Sports Illustrated is reporting the "great probability" that the next Afliction show will feature Barnett v. Fedor as its main event. Like you, I was not impressed by Josh's inability to put away Yvel at the last outing. That said, he is still an amazing catch wrestler with some mighty dangerous paws. If he gets a burr in his ass he might be resloute in outmatching his buddy. I doubt it though and, of course, sigbets will be available.
I may be a little late to the party on this one but evidently there's been some changes in the rules...hehehe...
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=8139&zoneid=2
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I'm getting sick of vaselinegate already. As one UFC fighter quipped, after about 1 or 2 minutes into the round that stuff starts to add friction and become a bit sticky, providing more grip than simple body sweat would, so it works both ways too.
Guess GSP will have to beat him clean for a 3rd time to make BJ go away. Too bad.
As for Barnett, I can't imagine him putting away Fedor but Fedor looked pretty mortal in his last fight so who knows?
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I'm getting sick of vaselinegate already. As one UFC fighter quipped, after about 1 or 2 minutes into the round that stuff starts to add friction and become a bit sticky, providing more grip than simple body sweat would, so it works both ways too.
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Guess GSP will have to beat him clean for a 3rd time to make BJ go away. Too bad.
Not too bad. There was a time when I'd spout off something diplomatic like "I respect Penn for his God-given ability" but anymore, not so much. I'm tired of him not showing up for fights.
I have no doubt that GSP would've and will always layeth the smacketh down on BJ...because of the size and technique but, geez man, come to throw.
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As for Barnett, I can't imagine him putting away Fedor but Fedor looked pretty mortal in his last fight so who knows?
Well, as you've no doubt assumed TeamSticks has been researching this through all sources. I agree with you, and my original assessment btw, that Fedor had some challenging moments against AA but closer inspection indicates maybe not as much as I thought. I saw some slo-mo GIFs that display more clearly the Емельяненко blocking technique...shoulder rolls and armblocks. I think Fedor got hit a lot less than many of us assumed...
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Yeah, you're probably right. I watched the fight again a few times too, and I never was as nervous about him losing as I was the first time - maybe knowing the outcome diminishes the value of AA's performance. Maybe I just have Fedor on too high a pedestal and forget he's always just 1 punch away from an upset like everyone else. High expectations on that guy.
I get the feeling whoever beats Fedor is just going to use it as a bargaining chip to jump ship to UFC for bigger bucks. Too bad, if I'm right.
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As far as Penn goes, I'm really disappointed in him. There's always been a cockiness about him that I tolerate because he's a MMA fighter and every interview is designed to bring that out to hype the fight. But this guy runs his mouth about his opponents too much before and after victories, and is a pretty sore loser. He was in in the first GSP fight, he cried after Pulver beat him, he cried after losing to Hughes, and now this.
I think he showed up for this one - but he's too small naturally to carry at 170 and now more than ever weight matters in MMA. That, and GSP is just a much better fighter than the also-rans that fight Penn at Lightweight, which isn't nearly as competitive IMO.
Still, Penn isn't nearly as annoying as Bisping. I can't wait for that guy to lose.
As for UFC 95 - I thought it was decent, especially since it was free. It suffered from a lot of early finishes which always makes it tough, but it wasn't very predictable. Most of those fights were important to separate contenders from pretenders.
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Lol, I find it amusing that if someone survives for three minutes it's cause to doubt...even if at 3:01 they get KtFO. You're right...raised expectations.
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Let's throw down with the weirdness...
Kexdaddy watchu think, sigbet...UFC 99...Cain Velasquez versus Heath Herring....
...talk to me mang...
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I think Herring is the gatekeeper to the upper echelon of the HW, a good test for the 5-0 kid. I think Velasquez is a bit overrated and riding the hype machine - not sure how he'll hold up against a legit striker like Herring.
That said, I still expect Velasquez to pull this one off. I'll lay sig down on that.
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I think Herring is the gatekeeper to the upper echelon of the HW, a good test for the 5-0 kid. I think Velasquez is a bit overrated and riding the hype machine - not sure how he'll hold up against a legit striker like Herring.
That said, I still expect Velasquez to pull this one off. I'll lay sig down on that.
Lol, okay, well I was gonna try and take Velasquez too...but ya know what...yer on. In my eyes this may be the first even-odds sigbet I've seen in awhile.
Herring seems to have problems with grapplers but Velasquez IMO has some questionable cardio. If this one goes long it's anybody's guess, or....< obligatory smacktalk > get ready for The Gatekeeper to slam the door shut!!
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Lol, okay, well I was gonna try and take Velasquez too...but ya know what...yer on. In my eyes this may be the first even-odds sigbet I've seen in awhile.
I think you're right about that. I had it rated 50/50, but Herring seems to show up for the fights he's ruled out for and whenever the UFC feeds their prospects they seem to choke a bit so yeah. Velasquez is hungry and I think he'll be ready and in shape since this fight doesn't happen until June.
So then...what's the term? A month...could be a long time, especially with NHL playoffs and March Madness 'round the corner...2 weeks would allow sufficient reload time...your call.
Does the site let us insert images in sigs? If not, I propose Avatars are fair game too...you been using those pictures of that wrestler Sting for way too long, Bobby Styxx.
Oh yes, you'll be signing posts with such confounding, astounding, spell bounding messages of perveted persuasions...I can't lose...reminds me of another bet I made the time I rolled two 8's and slayed the dragon of Mt. Corruptus with my 4th level...err never mind.
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1) That's Brandon, check yo specks...
2) For personal reasons I actually agree with your assessment but am willing to forgo my intuition in an effort to liven this place up.
3) All NHL sigbets will be considered on an individual basis..& yer right, there's more than enough time for multiples.
4) I'm pretty sure images can be inserted...didn't Jrhymedaddy have some horrible mullet thing going awhile back? In any case, I'll check tonight when I get home...this here phone ain't got no images in ye ol' memory banks.
In any case, it's on like Donkey Kong and, for someone, it'll be shameful fo' sho'
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1) That's Brandon, check yo specks...
It's cool man, you dig the Stinger, Scorpion Death Lock, Stinger Splash. I can respect that. Yeah, I liked the neon surfer look better myself, and he never should have beat Ravishing Rick Rude, but it is a bad ass avatar.
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2) For personal reasons I actually agree with your assessment but am willing to forgo my intuition in an effort to liven this place up.
Wouldn't matter who you picked, my guy would win...I'm undefeated in Ar.com sig bets...:ciappa:
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3) All NHL sigbets will be considered on an individual basis..& yer right, there's more than enough time for multiples.
We gotta talk Swish-o-matic into it too. We could each do a round by round prediction, dude who gets the most right wins, the others suffer the consequences...that way we don't run into the trouble of everyone taking the same teams each round and no sigs being wagered. Could even get a sig bet mediator to send our picks to unanimously, GM or someone, if anyone's worried about posting first.
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yep...you can attach pics in the sig...
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It's cool man, you dig the Stinger, Scorpion Death Lock, Stinger Splash. I can respect that. Yeah, I liked the neon surfer look better myself, and he never should have beat Ravishing Rick Rude, but it is a bad ass avatar.
Actually I was never much of a Stinger fan...but I'll hang with Hall and Nash all day long. Road Dogg too.
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Wouldn't matter who you picked, my guy would win...I'm undefeated in Ar.com sig bets...:ciappa:.
Has there ever been an AR sigbet? Mebbe we're both undefeated, making this the Clash of Champions.
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We gotta talk Swish-o-matic into it too. We could each do a round by round prediction, dude who gets the most right wins, the others suffer the consequences...that way we don't run into the trouble of everyone taking the same teams each round and no sigs being wagered. Could even get a sig bet mediator to send our picks to unanimously, GM or someone, if anyone's worried about posting first.
I'm down. And, I like the idea of two week increments of pain. Clearly we have to keep it within the confines of the Forum's rules and the law of the land and such but I say rawk on.
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Has there ever been an AR sigbet? Mebbe we're both undefeated, making this the Clash of Champions.
I went to clash of champions 5 in 9th grade...our wrestling coach took us. Damn I used to worship Lex Lugar.
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We gotta talk Swish-o-matic into it too. We could each do a round by round prediction, dude who gets the most right wins, the others suffer the consequences...that way we don't run into the trouble of everyone taking the same teams each round and no sigs being wagered. Could even get a sig bet mediator to send our picks to unanimously, GM or someone, if anyone's worried about posting first.
We can get Swishy-shish involved...shodiluk's been 'round too...most bets I'll take on all comers, 'specially this one.
I haven't heard the exact terms...was it two weeks? We can come up with sidebets too but, in the interests of full disclosure, you might wanna check up on Cain's recent health issues which you can find out about here
Remember where ya read it first...
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Hey Kex...or any other interested parties...
...tonight's the night, UFC 97....Liddell v. Shogun and Silva v Lietes...
Sigbets? Who wants to look like a jabroni...and, frankly, I don't care if it's me...
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Hey Kex...or any other interested parties...
...tonight's the night, UFC 97....Liddell v. Shogun and Silva v Lietes...
Sigbets? Who wants to look like a jabroni...and, frankly, I don't care if it's me...
Sorry, I missed this while I was gone or I woulda nailed you on it for sure...
Dunno if I coulda given you the odds to take a chance on Liddell though...
Our earlier bet is still on though...I have such sites to show you....
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It's on ...like Donkey Kong...
You really didn't miss much. Frankly, the best match of the evening was two little, lightweights that nobody ever heard of...a muay thai master and a bats-ass crazy guy that whooped the snot out of each other. I will say that if any good may have come from it it's that we're one step closer to a Silva/GSP fight at a catch weight. We'll see.
In any case, Big Daddy Herring gonna slap the smugness right offa Cain's face...
Nice avi, btw...lol
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Wow...I did not see Machida surgically dissecting Evans like that...and making it look so easy. I want to see him fight Silva. Now.
And Serra - I really thought he had Hughes in bad spots a lot more than vice-versa, though the 2nd round definitely went to Hughes. He probably retires now (right?). Tough decision, the guy I watched it with felt Hughes won all 3 so what do I know?
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Yeah buddy...I also did not forsee such a thorough dismantling. Machida's come a lon way in evolving his style into an offensive vivisection, as it were. I see him giving Rampage a lot of trouble as well. That straight-backed, kick and stick elusiveness will probably prove to be confusing for most wrestlers and straight boxers. Page is goingto have to be prepared to eat a few on the way in, actually get in (which 15 before him have failed to do) and then g-n-p a BJJ Black Belt. Methinks Machida could be around for some time.
I think I read somewhere that Serra has a couple of successful martial arts schools on the East Coast. Money may not be enough of a motivator to continue...
Did I hear that Herring is being replaced by Cheik Kongo in the Valesquez fight? As I recall we have a standing sigbet on that and such roster changes could necessitate renegotiation...
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Did I hear that Herring is being replaced by Cheik Kongo in the Valesquez fight? As I recall we have a standing sigbet on that and such roster changes could necessitate renegotiation...
Dunno about Cheik, but we'll work something out, pick an undercard fight if we need to. You ain't getting out that easy, dawg.
Rampaggio might be the guy to take Machida out. Maybe precision skills and chess-match thinkery has been the downfall of his opponents so far. Now let's try a guy with ability to take some punches while setting up for the big only-need-to-land-one shot. Could be just what the doctor ordered? And that from a guy who is at times a somewhat sloppy, unpredictable brawler. How does Machida elude that? Like cutting butter with a chainsaw. If Quinton gets put on his back it could be game over.
I'm equally interested in the Lesnar/Mir rematch. Part of me hopes Mir sends him back to school, but the other part hopes Lesnar just physically overwhelms him. Genetic freaks are cool. I see Lesnar faking the flying arm bar, and calling an audible scissor heel hook.
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Uh yeah, we'll figger somethin' out....I dunno why you think I'm runnin'....I'm the brave journeyman who's been searchin' these here internets far and wide for the prettiest lil' pics for yer sig....
As for your assessment of Page's chances, it pains me to agree. Quinton is easily one of my favorite fighters and personalities and I don't relish the thought of watching himm get KTFO.
Currently may attention has been diverted oversees between the recent freakshow that was DREAM9 and the upcoming Affliction card. Just announced matches: Chris Horodecki vs. Dan Lauzon, Gegard Mousasi vs. Vitor Belfort, Renato Sobral vs. Tito Ortiz, and the long-awaited bigg daddy, Fedor Emelianenko vs. Josh Barnett...
...and, yes, I'll be taking any and all sigbet action on Fedor and Babalu...
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Uh yeah, we'll figger somethin' out....I dunno why you think I'm runnin'....I'm the brave journeyman who's been searchin' these here internets far and wide for the prettiest lil' pics for yer sig....
Why you wasting your time on a efforts that will never see the light of day?
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Currently may attention has been diverted oversees between the recent freakshow that was DREAM9 and the upcoming Affliction card. Just announced matches: Chris Horodecki vs. Dan Lauzon, Gegard Mousasi vs. Vitor Belfort, Renato Sobral vs. Tito Ortiz, and the long-awaited bigg daddy, Fedor Emelianenko vs. Josh Barnett...
...and, yes, I'll be taking any and all sigbet action on Fedor and Babalu...
Your on like teflon, I'll take Ortiz.
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Your on like teflon, I'll take Ortiz.
OMG, who knew that the crack epidemic extended that far into Canada?!
One week; winners choice...WAR BABALU...
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OMG, who knew that the crack epidemic extended that far into Canada?!
One week; winners choice...WAR BABALU...
I'll admit to riding a bit of a hunch here, but....nobody has had Machida on the ropes as much as Tito did...he's got lots of fight left in him, and I think he'll take him out. And really, other than that enigma Sokoudjou, who's Babaloney fought in the last 2 years? TUF contestant Mike Whitehead????
Ortiz, FTW.
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I almost feel guilty...almost...
JoSE, you want in on this action?
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I almost feel guilty...almost...
JoSE, you want in on this action?
I like Rampage as well. I think he will just be too tough for Machida. I think Machida going to beat the hell out of him but I think Rampage can withstand it. Rampage in 2.
I think Lesnar will take Mir. Lesnar in 3. I think he has more experience now and won't get caught this time.
I hope Sobral hands Tito his arse. Can't stand the guy.
And Fedor vs. JB? Ooooo Boy! That's gonna be fun. I'll take Fedor for no real reason.
I have also been eagerly awaiting Brown vs. Faber II on 6/7 over at the WEC. Faber is one heck of a little fighter. I think he made a mistake in the first match and got caught. I think he is clearly the better fighter and will take Brown in the 1st round this time. Mainly because he is pissed off about letting himself get beat.
I also like Miguel Torres in the WEC. He is just scrappy and tough as nails. I don't think he has ever really been challenged. What else is left for him in the WEC?
I would like to see both of the guys come over to the UFC. I think Faber will come over eventually because I think he can compete in the lightweight 145+ weight. He's about that now. Torres will have a harder time getting up to a UFC lightweight. I'm guessing he is about 5 to 10 lbs below that and he has a small skinny frame.
Anyway, to recap....
Rampage
Lesnar
Sobral
Fedor
Faber
JSE
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I don't do PPV. I do watch a lot of MMA on TV, but I watch both WEC and UFC equally. Is there a major difference? besides the obvious, I mean...
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I don't do PPV. I do watch a lot of MMA on TV, but I watch both WEC and UFC equally. Is there a major difference? besides the obvious, I mean...
Same basic rules. There are a few minor differences. Other than that, I think UFC is considered the "premier" association. It seems the most the best of the best fighters all end up there at some point. Fedor???? The money is definitely better with UFC. Bigger billing and popularity means bigger paychecks for the fighters.
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aaaiight..JoSE...it looks like we's on the same mindmeld, the same mental plane, 'cepting the Rampage issue...sssssoooooooo....
....I'm throwin' down the gauntlet at you, I'm pickin' Lyoto and I'm pickin' it definitively....gimme watcha got bruh...
btw...good to see yer arse posting in these here hallowed halls...
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I hear ya guys on Ortiz. He's a dick. But I hope that isn't the only reason why you'd take Sobral over him, cause that stunt he pulled choking out Heath after he tapped, after the ref was signaling him to let go, and even resisting Mazzagatti's efforts to break the choke were was more dickery in 20 seconds than Tito's hype-machine mouth and stupid t-shirts have combined for in his whole career.
Don't really like either...Just think Tito's got some BJJ skills the world isn't too aware of and I'll look like a genius if I'm right...
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Did you guys catch this weeks TUF where that Lester kid fought with his teeth freshly knocked out and his nose busted up? Ouch. I've had my top front 2 teeth knocked out in hockey fights a few times. The last damn think I want to do is fight again next week. Let a lone against a trained fighter. Faulkner was supposed to be the top guy on team UK too. Dat**** hurts, bro....can't even brush the next day.
I dunno how far that kid will go, but taking the fight with a busted up face, after getting destroyed the week before and out-willing your opponent goes far in my books.
That might be my favorite moment moment from any of the seasons. Wow.
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Agreed. Lester showed a degree on intestinal fortitude that I had not assumed he possessed. That said, on a day-to-day basis he's been such a raging douchebag on the show that I'd find it hard to cheer for him. Props for the big brass ones though.
That was definetely a bizarre show. Faulkner was so overbilled that disappointment was sure to come. Kinda weird seeing Mask too...RIP
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Okie dokie...big weekend for change...or at least some different ideas to contend with. Rampage, in a fit of hubris no doubt, has jumped on board with coaching the next season of TUF. Evidently the antipathy that puportedly exists between Page and Evans is completely real and the concept of fighting Rashad at the end of the season was too much to pass up...
...smart money has the next LHW title match all-Brazillian, the Dragon most likely facing Mauricio "Shogun" Rua...I'm willing to consider alot of options but most likely I'll be sticking with Lyoto on this one...a second round KO of a once-proud Iceman don't turn my head...
Nobody wants Josh?!? Nobody wants to even talk decisions or multiple rounds?
Btw, JoSE, the headliners of Affliction and DREAM actually make more than those in the UFC, and considering foreign endorsements, it might be quite a long time before you see "The Last Emperor" working for Dana...especially given the lifetime merchandising obligations the UFC usually imparts upon it's victi...er, fighters...
I'ma stick with Babalu against Kex, but I think I agree with most of Jose's choices...couldn't tellya 'bout Mousasi v. Belfort...that's six-to-five-and-pick-em in Sticks Vegas...
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HA HA HA!
We are going to have to start a pool on Kimbo. I say he lasts until the 2nd fight on TUF.
Would love to see Rampage coach him though - think he could learn'im some jiu-jitsu? :)
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