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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    Catholic League: ?Marriage has nothing to do with love? - National atheism | Examiner.com

    “But marriage has nothing to do with love.

    ”It should be pointed out that Biblically speaking, Donahue is correct. Marriage has nothing to do with love, but was a form of ownership. Fathers would sell off their daughters to worthy men. Women were the property of their fathers and then became the property of their husbands.
    Which bible is he refring to

    If that guy read the bible correctly, the Bible said that female were created to keep the male company as form of a partnership, not ownership. And God gave humans five senses including sense of love, physical attraction, bonding, companionship and security to keep the partnership alive till death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey View Post
    Which bible is he refring to

    If that guy read the bible correctly, the Bible said that female were created to keep the male company as form of a partnership, not ownership. And God gave humans five senses including sense of love, physical attraction, bonding, companionship and security to keep the partnership alive till death.
    Wow what bible are you reading. Anyway I just wanted to show how marriage has evolved and changed. Marriage Equality is a legal issue and religion is not a part of it. People have used religion as a means to prevent same sex marriage but the arguments are not working anymore. Marriage equality will give same sex couples the legal benefits and protection of marriage. Down with DOMA
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    Wow what bible are you reading.
    You're both right

    I think Smokey is referring to the passage in Genesis (and I paraphrase) "and God saw that man was lonely" and made Eve from Adam's rib, to be his companion and partner and to occassionally light a fire under his lazy ass. It was hundreds of years later that marriage became the patriarchally controlled social/financial arrangement to which you refer John.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3LB View Post
    I think Smokey is referring to the passage in Genesis (and I paraphrase) "and God saw that man was lonely" and made Eve from Adam's rib, to be his companion and partner and to occassionally light a fire under his lazy ass.
    The last part was completly from the left field LMAO

    I find it funny that some poeple pick and choose bits and parts from bible that advances their agenda, and ignor parts that are not up their alley.

    For example consumption of pork is strickly forbidden in the bible due to being an scavenger animal (Biblically speaking to clean the earth), but yet it is main staple food of western christian society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey View Post
    The last part was completly from the left field LMAO

    I find it funny that some poeple pick and choose bits and parts from bible that advances their agenda, and ignor parts that are not up their alley.

    For example consumption of pork is strickly forbidden in the bible due to being an scavenger animal (Biblically speaking to clean the earth), but yet it is main staple food of western christian society.

    The Old Testament and issues of pork are ancient Jewish laws. The New Testament is what Christians should be following. The bible really has no place in marriage equality. I just find it interesting when supporters of marriage equality are accused of redefining marriage. There was a time when multiple wives was the norm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    The Old Testament and issues of pork are ancient Jewish laws. The New Testament is what Christians should be following. The bible really has no place in marriage equality. I just find it interesting when supporters of marriage equality are accused of redefining marriage. There was a time when multiple wives was the norm.
    In Bible is full of crazy injunctions and proscriptions, e.g.

    Deuteronomy 22:11, (King James Version) =

    Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together.

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    I liked that you could sell your daughter into slavery but could not go along with not eating shellfish. I also want to know who came up with the idea of stoning. Now that is some cruel sh!t.


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    In Bible is full of crazy injunctions and proscriptions, e.g.

    Deuteronomy 22:11, (King James Version) =

    Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    I liked that you could sell your daughter into slavery but could not go along with not eating shellfish. I also want to know who came up with the idea of stoning. Now that is some cruel sh!t.
    In the Old Testament God is often portrayed as jealous, vindictive, and genocidal. No wonder that certain Christian "heresies" rejected the Old Testament.

    For example, the Marcion heresy, for example, not only rejected the OT, it deemed that the God of the OT as actually a different god than God of the New Testament. Meanwhile Christian Gnostics deemed that Jesus was the emissary from the Supreme God, send to reveal to mankind the esoteric knowledge necessary to salvation, while the god of the OT and creator of the physical world as we know it was actually an evil and illegitimate demiurge, offspring of one of the emanations or "Aeons", (Sophia), of the Supreme God.

    I could mention too that Muslims, while accepting that the OT contains many truths, believe that it also included many Hebrew-biased distortions of historical events and the "Chosen People" portrayal of the Jews.

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    When gay marriage comes to Ohio and I meet the man of my dreams I have some ideas for the ceremony. I would like Forever Autumn to be my matron of honor. Bobsticks to plan the bachelor party. We would need strippers of both genders. FA may help select the young men. Since my father is deceased maybe Worf would walk me down the aisle. That and he would walk across the street to avoid me. I would fly SVI in to be my guest book attendant. Oh and I could see Swish officiating after he receives his on-line ministerial degree. Ah yes an AR wedding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor View Post

    Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together.
    Well . . . that's just good fashion sense. You wear your wool in fall and winter and your linen in spring and summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    When gay marriage comes to Ohio and I meet the man of my dreams I have some ideas for the ceremony. I would like Forever Autumn to be my matron of honor. Bobsticks to plan the bachelor party. We would need strippers of both genders. FA may help select the young men. Since my father is deceased maybe Worf would walk me down the aisle. That and he would walk across the street to avoid me. I would fly SVI in to be my guest book attendant. Oh and I could see Swish officiating after he receives his on-line ministerial degree. Ah yes an AR wedding.
    For a drink, I'll sing at your reception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dean_martin View Post
    For a drink, I'll sing at your reception.

    Sounds great Dean, I will tell GMichael, the bartender and MC, to give you whatever you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    Oh and I could see Swish officiating after he receives his on-line ministerial degree.
    That I got to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by dean_martin View Post
    Well . . . that's just good fashion sense. You wear your wool in fall and winter and your linen in spring and summer.
    True -- but what business is it of God's?

    Some scholars have speculated that certain Hebrew proscriptions, e.g. the no linen/wool mix and no pork, have the origin in that Hebrews were originally herders (of sheep) whereas their non-Hebrew neighbours were mostly farmers. Basically the notion was that good herders ought to favor mutton over pork and wool (from sheep) over linen (from a plant). Hence they are exclusionary laws mean to reduce racial/cultural mixing.

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    I forgot about someone's skills, I need to have Sir T DJ the reception. Since Dean is going to sing I will have him sing for the first dance. It is fun inventing my imaginary wedding but now I need to create an imaginary boyfriend.


    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    When gay marriage comes to Ohio and I meet the man of my dreams I have some ideas for the ceremony. I would like Forever Autumn to be my matron of honor. Bobsticks to plan the bachelor party. We would need strippers of both genders. FA may help select the young men. Since my father is deceased maybe Worf would walk me down the aisle. That and he would walk across the street to avoid me. I would fly SVI in to be my guest book attendant. Oh and I could see Swish officiating after he receives his on-line ministerial degree. Ah yes an AR wedding.
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    To be honest, there are a lot of different couples emerging at the moment. For example, I am attracted to dating transgender people. It seems to me that this is normal. Because I am planning to marry a woman who was once a boyfriend. What do you think of these dates?

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