Enjoy your brand new Iphones,,Ipads, and whatever.

[markw]

Lots pf people are paying for our pleasures and we feed this monster by demanding newer, better, and faster.

Is this Steven Jobs legacy?

[Feanor]

Lots pf people are paying for our pleasures and we feed this monster by demanding newer, better, and faster.

Is this Steven Jobs legacy?

This is the legacy of global capitalism. It's the legacy of 30 years of Reaganite supply-side economics. It is also the fate of North American workers as unions are crushed and they come under continuous pressure to lower wages, benefits, and protections to developing country levels, and politicians are bought to reduce consumer and environmental regulations. ("America needs to be compeditive".)

By all means let's lower taxes on corporations and the rich so they'll have even more money to invest in China.

Suck it up, citizens.

[noddin0ff]

I wouldn't call it the Steve Job's legacy. If anything it's the legacy of either A) Failure of the US to subsidize/support robust industrial infrastructure, or B) China playing unfairly by subsidizing/supporting robust industrial infrastructure.

Unless your point, mark, is to suggest we should take slow food movement philosophy to electronic consumerism...

I doubt believe that Apple is significantly more or less "evil" than any other enterprise seeking cheep, flexible and fast Chinese manufacturing.

philosophy from wiki...
The only thing for certain is that everything changes. The rate of change increases. If you want to hang on you better speed up. That is the message of today. It could however be useful to remind everyone that our basic needs never change. The need to be seen and appreciated! It is the need to belong. The need for nearness and care, and for a little love! This is given only through slowness in human relations. In order to master changes, we have to recover slowness, reflection and togetherness. There we will find real renewal.

[Feanor]

In the official Republican reply to Pres. Obama's State of the Union Speech, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels stated the a great innovator like Steve Jobs created more jobs in American than Obama's stimulus measures. It is charitable to call this "incorrect". It is grossly uninformed or ... uhmm ... a lie.

Apple has 43,000 employees in the USA and 700,000 workers in China -- I quote Chris Hayes on MSNBC this morning who might actually be thinking of the number of Foxconn workers not all of whom build Apple products. Again according to Hayes, the Obama stimulus has create 1,2000,000 jobs. This is how Republicans bullsh!t and lie to Americans.

What American corporations and 0.1 percenters have been doing doing since the Reagan regime is taking their tax savings and investing them abroad. Yeah, sure, they're "job creators", it's just about where they're creating the jobs.

[markw]

That's all right. Thanks to your RIM, your blackberries will be joining out Iphones on the trip west. See here for some news that's sure to brring a smile to your face.

But, look on the bright side: You've got all that bitumen to sell. One good thing about being born in a resource-rich country is that as long as it holds out, you've got a source of income. Not unlike some women who make a living off certain parts of their bodies, but most don't go around feeling smug about it.

[Feanor]

That's all right. Thanks to your RIM, your blackberries will be joining out Iphones on the trip west. See here for some news that's sure to brring a smile to your face.

But, look on the bright side: You've got all that bitumen to sell. One good thing about being born in a resource-rich country is that as long as it holds out, you've got a source of income. Not unlike some women who make a living off certain parts of their bodies, but most don't go around feeling smug about it.

Ah! Mark, if only you really knew something about Canada. Unfortunately the best you can do is grab the odd headline to jeer about.

WTF? Do actually think that somehow I gloating about America's problems? Could you be that stupid? There's nothing in America's woes that that works well for Canada. Unlike your, who would apparently like nothing better than to see Canada go down the toilet, I and most Canadian really like to see the USA do well -- even if it's only for selfish reasons.

Tar sands oil is the filthiest on earth and it would really be best if nobody used it. Could work out that way if the Keystone pipeline gets held up indefinitely and the Gateway pipeline, (Alberta to British Columbia coast), doesn't get approved. What we Canadians really need is to get rid of our own Republican-wannabe, dirt-bag Conservative prime minister, Stephen Harper.

[markw]

Ah! Mark, if only you really knew something about Canada. Unfortunately the best you can do is grab the odd headline to jeer about.

It seems that you're johnny on the spot when it coming to prancing about with Americia's problems. Not putting your country down, if more important stuff happened I'd have more articles from which to pick and choose.

Hey, my original post was directed to at he consumers who greedily suck up the shiniest new apple product even before they pulled the plastic protective sheet off the old one. It wasn't a political rant, at least until others decided to make it so. ...and look who was the first in line. Surprise, surprise.

WTF? Do actually think that somehow I gloating about America's problems. Could you be that effing stupid? There's nothing in America's woes that that works well for Canada. Unlike your, who would apparently like nothing better than to see Canada go down the toilet, I and most Canadian really like to see the USA do well -- even if it's only for selfish reasons.

Really? Then why do you show so much glee when you (don't) gloat? I see Montgomery Burns rubbing his bony hands together, cackling and smiling.

No, I don't want to see Canada have any problems. You don't see me proudly initiating posts gloating about their problems, do you? Now, can you honestly say that about yourself and a few (not all) of your fellow Canadian posters here?

Tar sands oil is the filthiest on earth and it would really be best if nobody used it. Could work out that way if the Keystone pipeline gets held up indefinitely and the Gateway pipeline, (Alberta to British Columbia coast), doesn't get approved. What we Canadians really need is to get rid of our own Republican-wannabe, dirt-bag Conservative prime minister, Stephen Harper.

It's funny that you only talk about your own countries dickheads when trying to defend your trashing ours.

Rather than post about your own "Republican" problems you choose to rag on us about ours. Why is that? Ragging on us isn't going to change your problems but, apparently, it does makes you feel better.

Besides, manufacturing has been shifting to the east since long before Reagan took office. Remember Datsun and Trio electronics to name just two? To try to lay it all on him is really quite disingenuous.

[Feanor]

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Hey, my original post was directed to at he consumers who greedily suck up the shiniest new apple product even before they pulled the plastic protective sheet off the old one. It wasn't a political rant, at least until others decided to make it so. ....

Oh I see. Your post was supposed to be exclusively anti-Apple. I supposed because you prefer Samsung.

The Apple scenario isn't unique -- that's the issue. And it is a political as well as economic issue. American votes need to get the picture that their choices for President and Congress have exacerbated the decline of their nation in manufacturing and in general. Do you really not see that? Pry you head out of the sand (or your butt) and understand what's happening instead of just lapping up the bull excrement of Romney, Gingrich, et al.