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Originally Posted by Woochifer
Yeah, and you so-called "libertarians" (i.e., Repubs too embarrassed to admit their party affiliation) keep lapping up the GOP talking points that Rush, Hannity, Billo, the Weiner Nation, et al spoon feed you. Just because you hear something in a right-wing echo chamber doesn't mean that it translates to the real world.
Right, the New Deal was a "total failure" even though the economy more than doubled and the stock market more than tripled in the years after the programs were initially implemented. Yeah, we should be so lucky as to live in your free market fantasyland where people can lose their life savings when a bank fails, the stock market has no rules or oversight, seniors have no other subsistence if their 401k or pension fund collapses, and people who get disabled and can no longer work are just left on the streets to fend for themselves. Face it, the New Deal saved capitalism from itself by stabilizing a situation that could've easily spiraled out of control and given rise to the kind of conflicts between extremist groups that plagued Europe during the 1930s. Or do you think that we should have just let fascism take hold? Because that's what happens when corporate power merges with state power.
And now you're claiming that Keynesians are calling the New Deal a "total failure" (guys like Paul Krugman only gripe about it because they feel it did not go far enough, hardly a "total failure")? :rolleyes: Better check what you got on that last WalMart drug run, you ain't thinkin' straight (nothing new, but this is out of bounds even by your diminished standards) :out:
We havent lived in a "free market" for decades.
And I have no "party" affiliation, wouldnt be "scared" to admit it if I did.
Liberals however are scared to admit that they are really a theiving bunch of
COLLECTIVIST A-HOLES, who are more than willing to do "good works",
JUST NOT WITH THEIR MONEY.:1:
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
We havent lived in a "free market" for decades.
"We" have never lived in a free market. The free market is not possible in industrialized nations. The free market is only possible in Adam Smith's fantasy of the state of nature. If a small society actually tried to live in a complete free market it wouldn't last a single generation.
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
And I have no "party" affiliation, wouldnt be "scared" to admit it if I did.
Then why can't you admit that you're a Republican?
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
Liberals however are scared to admit that they are really a theiving bunch of COLLECTIVIST A-HOLES
More unfounded vitriol. "liberals" aren't scared as much as they deny being thieves and collectivists. If you actually stepped back an thought about what you're spouting off, you'd realize it makes no sense whatsoever. You're just angry and this clouds your ability to see the forest for the trees. You're not making any sense and you're alienating most everyone who earlier would have found common cause with some of the things you said. You're not even clear on what you mean by "liberals" since you put some of us into that category, and I really don't think too many of us consider ourselves "liberals." And I can assure you we don't consider ourselves "COLLECTIVIST A-HOLES," as you put it so colorfully.
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
who are more than willing to do "good works", JUST NOT WITH THEIR MONEY.:1:
This is another one of your generalizations. I happen to know several people who do consider themselves "Liberals" and who actively support several charities, who support the arts, and who also personally go out an plant trees after fires have ravaged an area. I would consider them pretty good citizens actually, and good Christians to boot, since you happen to borrow the term "good works" from the Christian Bible.
There are nothing but holes in your accusations, insults, and generalizations. It would be one thing if you had a good point to make, but this is just insulting and/or plain stupid. Again, I don't mean to throw insults back at you, but you're going off the deep end with your posts and it's gone from being funny, to sad, to just plain boring.
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
We havent lived in a "free market" for decades.
And I have no "party" affiliation, wouldnt be "scared" to admit it if I did.
Liberals however are scared to admit that they are really a theiving bunch of
COLLECTIVIST A-HOLES, who are more than willing to do "good works",
JUST NOT WITH THEIR MONEY.:1:
Spoken like the clueless loner that you are. Don't think we live in a collective? Why not just go Ted Kaczinski on us and live off the land, while typing up some fancy manifesto about the evils of plasma TVs. Might actually get a few facts straight, since you're somewhat less clueless about consumer electronics than you are about economics (care to demonstrate how to calculate a growth rate for us?).
Read a few passages from Atlas Shrugged, throw in some slander from right wing talking points, and you think you have all the answers. The real world is not given to a few fancy labels and factually-challenged generalizations. Your paranoid worldview is no different than anyone who reads Karl Marx or Mao's little red book, and declares themselves a Marxist while claiming that state ownership and the elimination of profit motive is the answer to all economic ills. A true communist system is every bit as much of a pipe dream as a true free market, unless you're given to manufacturing reality in your head ... which apparently you are! :out:
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
I dont tote a gun, havent owned one since I quit the force.
And libertarians are not able to run things now, conservatives are a lesser poison.
Its simply a matter of damage, do you know just how much chaos liberals will
cause this country in four years?
And yes I am a libertarian, a Harry Brown Ayn Rand Milton freidman ron PAUL
libertarian.
AND I didnt come to this lightly.
I felt that this philosophy was a good fit for years, but after reading about objectivism
everything just rang true.
Legalize freeedom...
VOTE
libertarian
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I own several guns -- does that make me a Republican ???? :yikes:
Please, God, say it isn't so.
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Originally Posted by Feanor
I own several guns -- does that make me a Republican ???? :yikes:
Please, God, say it isn't so.
Nope. I don't own a gun. You're good.
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Uhhh... I own 3 guns and you KNOW which side of the fence I stand on. :smilewinkgrin:
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Uhhh... I own 3 guns and you KNOW which side of the fence I stand on. :smilewinkgrin:
Uh, y'mean the TEXAS side of the fence (which is opposite from the AMERICAN side)? :cool:
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Originally Posted by GMichael
The right side?
Looking north or south? :idea:
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Originally Posted by Woooooooooch
Uh, y'mean the TEXAS side of the fence (which is opposite from the AMERICAN side)?
Are you badmouthing the Republic of Texas again crazy man from La La Land?
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You know, I think a lot of people would welcome a secession of Texas from the Union, right now.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Looking north or south? :idea:
West. Duh.....:crazy:
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Originally Posted by nightflier
You know, I think a lot of people would welcome a secession of Texas from the Union, right now.
You know, I think a lot of people would welcome a really big earthquake in Cali La La Land. :biggrin5:
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You mean all the people who own land in Nevada?
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Are you badmouthing the Republic of Texas again crazy man from La La Land?
Oh ... no ... I ... would ... NEVER ... do ... anything ... like ... thayat! :rolleyes:
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I'm sure they'd welcome the beach, don't ya think?
This thread sure has turned into a train wreck! That's fer sherr! :ihih:
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Everyone was done fighting anyhow. Least till Pix comes back.
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Yeah what happened to Pixie?
Hmmm, wonder if there's any relation to "pixie snot."
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Originally Posted by nightflier
Yeah what happened to Pixie?
Hmmm, wonder if there's any relation to "pixie snot."
He only posts at night. Check the times on them.
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Yeah. Try to keep up flyboy. :rolleyes:
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I'm too busy...
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Yeah. Try to keep up flyboy. :rolleyes:
...tying everything down for that major earthquake that's going to send my state floating off into the ocean....
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Gotta few cracks here...Whup?
I don't Libertarianism has much t'do with a any particular brand of political ideology; it's just a way of life, doncha think?
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What? We were talking about the earthquake Mr. P!
There you go again. :nonod:
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The earthquake caused a train wreck?
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Well, the entire state of California is a train wreck, but that's beside the point.
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