You guys crewed me... Now, you need to help me!

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

...up 'til now, that is...



Just what part of the whole chain isn't a compromise? D@mn, HT is only tee-vee...ear/eye candy...and HTIB is Cracker Jack's, "...candy-coated popcorn, peanuts and a prize..."(does it still contain a useless trinket?)...what's really involved with transporting the laser-totin' mechanical lizards into your living room? What part of any of it is realistic?

jimHJJ(...none of which was my original point anyway...)

One compromise comes in the form of the main speakers melding( $1 to spock) with the subwoofer. Most HTIB have tiny speakers with a low frequency cutoff of about 120hz or higher. Most receivers have their crossover at 80hz. Every HTIB I have ever heard this hole was very audible. Alot of HTIB have pretty small subwoofers that cannot play back deep bass without compression or alot of distortion. Considering the fact that the sub in this kind of system has to handle the LFE, and the bass from all of the other channels this constitutes a compromise in my opinion which may not be to others with less of a desire for quality bass.

When I started working at Paramount many years ago, they were just reopening their rebuilt and remodeled sound and dubbing stages. My first job with them was to completely rebuild their sound effects library. 100% of what I recorded over those first couple of years came from nature, or sources in real life. So while you laser totin lizards are not real, the sounds that derive its roar and its walk came from sources that are noted in real life, they are just combined together to get a certain sound effect.

The production value of film scores these days is very high. I know that in the last 4 years or so every film score I have recorded has been done with very high quality electronics at 24/96khz. Shawn Murphy who is a well known scoring engineer and several others that are not so well known all use very high quality electronic and also record at 24/96khz. The idea that film soundtracks are just a lo fi medium is totally old school. The thought that high quality high resolution speakers are not required to get the best out of soundtracks is also a old school notion.

[byungwook]

Thanks all for your continued help.

For your information, here is a photo of the living room.
You can find 2 speakers over the window next to the TV.
The seller took the speakers away. There are two other
locations above the sofa in front. Probably, I'll put the
TV at the same location.

http://home.bawi.org/~bwkim/others/livingroom.jpg

Please let me know if this location is really bad as Sir TT
wrote and I have to re-consider using those wire connection.

Thanks,

Byungwook

[markw]

Probably, I'll put the TV at the same location.

Please let me know if this location is really bad as Sir TTwrote and I have to re-consider using those wire connection.

Their locations may be fine for low level, uncritical listening, say background music in a restaurant, but they are not in a location to do any good at all for a HT system and, I doubt, for any semi-serious music system.. for HT, the TV should be somewhat centrally located between the two front speakers, and this scenario is nowhere near that.

[GMichael]

Thanks all for your continued help.

For your information, here is a photo of the living room.
You can find 2 speakers over the window next to the TV.
The seller took the speakers away. There are two other
locations above the sofa in front. Probably, I'll put the
TV at the same location.

http://home.bawi.org/~bwkim/others/livingroom.jpg

Please let me know if this location is really bad as Sir TT
wrote and I have to re-consider using those wire connection.

Thanks,

Byungwook

Nice room. Beautiful. But a challenge sonically.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Nice room. Beautiful. But a challenge sonically.

This would be the understatement of the year!

[GMichael]

This would be the understatement of the year!

My first thought was, "Beautiful room. Too bad it's an acoustic nightmare." But I thought that might sound harsh.

[bobhaze]

Hello byungwook,

Let me finally chime in with my $.02. Since you will apparently be using the same speaker positions you'll obviously want something small. And, as a casual listener an HTIB probably has some merit for simplicity in selection, operation and installation. But, since there is no reason to compromise more than you have to sonically might I suggest this one:

http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/s...&item=c1mt610e

One of my brothers-in-law just picked one up and it sounds quite good for the category. The MC100 main speakers are fairly small, but large enough for decent midbass blend with a subwoofer. They work with standard omnimount brackets.

[robert393]

http://home.bawi.org/~bwkim/others/livingroom.jpg

Please let me know if this location is really bad as Sir TT
wrote and I have to re-consider using those wire connection.

Yes, it is as "bad as Sir TT wrote". Please don't take that wrong. It is a BEAUTIFUL room, but not designed for critical listening, or high-quality HT.

From the picture, it looks like the best location would be to get a flat panel monitor, mount it above the fireplace and then have your speakers located on that wall (the left wall in the pic).

Without seeing more of the room, I would have to agree with this, unless.......
1) You don't really care about quality sound (not a put-down, but if critical listening is not your priority), then simply put the small satelite speakers overhead. And just enjoy the room.
2) You want to try to do it "right" (for HT), and in that case I would have custom "blackout" drapes made for the huge window to the immediate right of the TV, and put a 100"-120" screen and run a projector. Then, go "all-out" and have floor standing (full range) speakers.
ps.....wifey AIN'T going for option 2!
3) choose another room and tell wifey "this is MY room". Then build it out for HT.

I like option 3. Course that's what I did........and loving it!

Robert