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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    What do you mean you "disagree"?
    THIS IS A FACT.
    Do you disagree about getting old?
    Not being able to jump off of a building and fly?
    You may disagree with this, you can also disagree with the theory of reletivity,
    the second law of thermodynamics, and E= I X R,
    you can "disagree" with getting old and dying, doesnt matter a whit.
    FACTS are facts

    first of all, 70% is a big statement, especially since all movies are mastered different.

    a true statement would be 'most of the dialogue comes from the center'.

    and yet again, good main speakers (L & R), and ghost mode on your receiver (or just setting the center channel to 'no', which will cause the receiver to send the center channel information to the main speakers) can and will perform nearly as good as a center, if you sit reasonably on axis.

    so 70% is no more than a relative fact. It's a fact, but not having a center doesn't take away 70% of the sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    first of all, 70% is a big statement, especially since all movies are mastered different.

    a true statement would be 'most of the dialogue comes from the center'.

    and yet again, good main speakers (L & R), and ghost mode on your receiver (or just setting the center channel to 'no', which will cause the receiver to send the center channel information to the main speakers) can and will perform nearly as good as a center, if you sit reasonably on axis.

    so 70% is no more than a relative fact. It's a fact, but not having a center doesn't take away 70% of the sound.
    That's more or less what I'm trying to say, basite.

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    As stated earlier, a 5.1 receiver should be your primary purchase. Then buy a pair of surrounds. Listen with mains, ghost center and surrounds. Then disconnect the surrounds move one to the center and decide for yourself which configuration sounds best to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    first of all, 70% is a big statement, especially since all movies are mastered different.

    a true statement would be 'most of the dialogue comes from the center'.

    and yet again, good main speakers (L & R), and ghost mode on your receiver (or just setting the center channel to 'no', which will cause the receiver to send the center channel information to the main speakers) can and will perform nearly as good as a center, if you sit reasonably on axis.

    so 70% is no more than a relative fact. It's a fact, but not having a center doesn't take away 70% of the sound.
    NO its spread out over other speakers. Mainly a phantom center is created with the front left and right.
    AND 70% is NOT a "relative" fact, its a FACT period, as a matter of fact that is a low figure, sometimes its as much as eighty percent.
    Beleive it or not, its true, I havent read it in one place, but SEVERAL places, it was the case when pro-logic was popular and its the case now.
    AND a "phantom" is but a "ghost" of a REAL center, its nothing compared to a real center channel.
    One of those bose systems with three speakers, they create phantom REARS
    and are routinely booed by those in the know.
    AND THEY ARE NOT NEARLY AS IMPORTANT AS A GOOD CENTER.
    Why people think they can have a decent system with the main speaker missing is beyond me.
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    AND THAT was my 2001 post.
    Wheres the big black slab and the homicidal computer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Beleive it or not, its true, I havent read it in one place, but SEVERAL places, it was the case when pro-logic was popular and its the case now.


    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    AND THEY ARE NOT NEARLY AS IMPORTANT AS A GOOD CENTER.
    Why people think they can have a decent system with the main speaker missing is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer





    FINALLY, YOU post something you know about(a big pile of BS, in other words)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    FINALLY, YOU post something you know about(a big pile of BS, in other words)
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=lame%20out

    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
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    This is getting hilarious! Now, come on guys. 60%, 70%, who cares!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emesbee
    This is getting hilarious! Now, come on guys. 60%, 70%, who cares!

    I have to agree with you on that one.
    BUT that is not the point.
    The point is that a center is very important for decent HT.
    Now, if you love music and HT is secondary fine, get by on a "phantom" center,
    you will probably live in happiness.
    But if you profess to hardcore HT you NEED a center.
    BAD.
    real BAD
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