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    Quote Originally Posted by JSE
    I'm sure most of you have seen this article before and it's probably been posted before but here it is. It gives some pretty good insight into the whole Bose marketing machine. Interesting read.

    http://www.perrymarshall.com/marketing/bose.htm

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    Sheez, what a snake oil peddler! I understand his praise of Bose from a marketing perspective, since it seems that all he respects is sales success and doesn't care whether customers get real value for their money. But, he also conveniently ignores the fact that Bose products are typically the most expensive products in their respective categories, and often significant underperformers, even compared to comparable products designed with ergonomics and design in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    Sheez, what a snake oil peddler! I understand his praise of Bose from a marketing perspective, since it seems that all he respects is sales success and doesn't care whether customers get real value for their money. But, he also conveniently ignores the fact that Bose products are typically the most expensive products in their respective categories, and often significant underperformers, even compared to comparable products designed with ergonomics and design in mind.
    I knew a guy that worked at the Brick...a furniture chain that sold Bose and Vivid speakers(if there is worse than Bose it's Vivid). ANywway this guy owned the Bose 901s for years swore by them - best speakers ever made.

    Upon listening to my B&W DM 302s...the cheapest speaker the company made he shook his head admitting the cleaned the 901's clock in every arena except bass depth and obviously in max SPL. I simply said yes but these are after all only the $300.00 not $1800.00 for the 901. I should have let him listen to my Wharfedales which do have more bass, more treble extension and will play a lot louder cleaner clearer than the 901.

    Needless to say he had his Bose up soon for sale. Never did keep in touch to find out what he bought...no matter since nothing over $300.00 I can recal sound worse than the 901. Not only is it a bad value it's a down right LOUSY speaker period at any price.

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    I've actually experienced some rather pleasing results with Bose HT setups ...the only damn problem was the surround channels seemed too "busy" if that's the right word. But not the worst I've heard.
    For music I've found them absolutely horrible, especially for jazz and classical...Someone suggested to me that the biggest reason for this is that the speakers lose timbre matching ones the sounds are forced to reflect of different surfaces. Most rooms I guess are not perfectly symmerical, and in fact you wouldn't want them to be anyway.
    Not sure if there's any truth in that statement, but seems plausible.

    Here's a question though, why do so many audiophile newbies think that Bose is the end-all-be-all of loudspeakers? Is it good marketing? Is it that they are the most expensive product at Sears, Best Buy, etc? Is it their weird looks? What gives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    Here's a question though, why do so many audiophile newbies think that Bose is the end-all-be-all of loudspeakers? Is it good marketing? Is it that they are the most expensive product at Sears, Best Buy, etc? Is it their weird looks? What gives?
    Wife Accpetance Factor!!!!! I've been living with my son's mum now for just 8 months and I've already had to change my mains in the living room (the Ohm Walsh F's were "too pyramidal" and were brown so they didn't match the rest of the av equipment) and added white speakers to the kitchen. Sigh... man when dem wommens see dem cute, little white cubes that they can hide anywhere, instead of those hideous, ugly, bulky towers that you can't even put a flower pot on, they go into a frenzy and your goose is litterally quite cooked. Trust me my brother... I know from whence I speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worf101
    Wife Accpetance Factor!!!!! I've been living with my son's mum now for just 8 months and I've already had to change my mains in the living room (the Ohm Walsh F's were "too pyramidal" and were brown so they didn't match the rest of the av equipment) and added white speakers to the kitchen. Sigh... man when dem wommens see dem cute, little white cubes that they can hide anywhere, instead of those hideous, ugly, bulky towers that you can't even put a flower pot on, they go into a frenzy and your goose is litterally quite cooked. Trust me my brother... I know from whence I speak.

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    Oh man, I feel for you brother! Lucky for me, my wife had a negative association between those Bose cubes and her ex-boyfriend, so they never ventured into the discussion when I was putting together the HT system. (The first demo with the Paradigm and B&W speakers I brought home for demo pretty much burnished her impression that her ex-boyfriend wasn't really all that bright.) It was a bonus that the cherry laminate finish on those Paradigm Studio speakers just happened to match the hardwood floor.

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