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Forgive me if I sound a little hard nosed. It's just that someone once told me that they knew what they were doing and that I should just accept it as is. Any other business would go out of business if they didn't listen to their customers. Anyway, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Feanor
I have to agree basically. Films ought to include a stereo mix and, in any case, should clearly indicate all the audio mixes on the disc.
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Bottom line...
If movie companies are going to put out movies that aren't mixed for stereo, they should put a warning on the package to that affect or get off their duff and do it right. Some people can do a good job and make a quality product, the others tend to blame the hardware or make excuses when someone complains.
I have to agree basically. Films ought to include a stereo mix and, in any case, should clearly indicate all the audio mixes on the disc.
Bill, I hate to say it again(well maybe not), but this is just another stupid idea that Steve has come up with.
1. Remember your market. Our market is film sound, not stereo audio. The CD, vinyl, and downloads have the music market covered, so there is no need to compromise a film soundtrack to accommodate the two channel folks. They are the ones stuck in the past, and the film industry has already moved on to the future - which is immersive 3D audio.
2. This is a classic case of an old dude(Steven) wanting an entire industry to conform to his poorly set up two channel system, rather than the dummy stepping up to the plate to conform with standards that have been set for decades.
3. We have already tried multiple mixes on disc. Look at the early days of DVD(1997) where there was a stereo mixdown track, and a 5.1 mix. Our survey's back then showed there was little interest in listening to the stereo mix, so many studio's dropped it. The marketplace has spoken, and it apparently does not agree with Steven backwards opinion.
4. There is no place in the film audio chain that stereo is used. Film soundtracks are designed for the theater, whether it is the professional one, or somebody's home theater. If you want to hear the soundtrack properly played back, one must step up to the 5.1 plate - not expect us to step back into a total audio compromise.
5. There is no way to make dialog clear and intelligible in two channel. I have explained this to the point of fatigue. You cannot stuff 6 channels of information into two without compromising the entire mix. If you have dialog, music, and effects coming from just two speakers, something is going to suffer, and it is usually dialog.
6. Movies are a shared experience, not a singular one. If you have three viewers/ listeners(as I often do) listening to a film soundtrack, the two folks off center will hear the sound from the speaker closest to them. It is too difficult for the brain to combine the actors position on the screen, to the dialog coming from the left or right speaker. The brain will always "tell" you the sound is not coming from the screen, but from a speaker.
6. As much bandwidth and the Bluray disc has, it still has limitations. Bluray is the optimum way of watching movies(currently). There is only 54mbps bandwidth each and every second to play with here. With the movies taking between 40-45mbps, there is not enough bandwidth for video, metadata, a lossless or uncompressed track, and a high quality lossless or uncompressed stereo track on the same disc. Remember, there may be one soundtrack, but the dialog is stored in several languages which also takes up bandwidth, and space on the disc.
Bill, in the future, look on the back cover of your Bluray disc. Bluray has several must carry sound formats, and they are all listed on the back cover. Usually there is a PCM, DTS master audio, or Dolby TrueHD track, and a Dolby Digital lossy track. If the movie is older, then there is the original encoded stereo or mono track that must be decoded to keep the dialog in the center channel, or to properly spread the stereo(or Dolby Stereo) mix to their encoded channels.
I can name another half dozen reasons why Steven's idea is stupid, but I have made my point. The most important point here is the market has already decided they do not want stereo tracks on their Bluray's. The market will not even support Blurays with lossy DTS or Dolby Digital.
Film sound is marching forward, and marching forward very quickly. Catch up, or shut up - that is the advice I would give Steven.
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Bill, I hate to say it again(well maybe no), but this is just another stupid idea that Steve has come up with.
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Film sound is marching forward, and marching forward very quickly. Catch up, or shut up - that is the advice I would give Steven.
Sir T, you explain your position very well but I'm still inclined to agree that a stereo track is desirable for the few who want it.
Personally I have an m/c system and that is what I almost use for movies. It's not up to your, very high, standards but it works pretty well. On the other hand my wife occasionally watches movies in stereo on another system mainly used to watch TV.
This is a point on which you have consistently shown insensitivity. Many people continue to use modest, stereo systems because of cost and/or difficulty placing surround speakers. In an era of stagnating or declining median incomes and the impoverishment of hte working and lower middle classes, the low-end market for all sorts of relatively low end products will grow, not shrink.
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Go back and look at my first comments brightness. What would be helpful to me is that you actually read it.
OK, so here are your first comments. They are not really about the article or the original post. They are comments about what I posted and nothing much else. Maybe you need to re-read your own comments. Also, go back and note that not ONCE did you respond to the OP or the article, but rather played your normal game of picking apart everyone else replies sentence by sentence.
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Not only have you never cared about it, but it is patently obvious you have no experience with it either. There are so few recordings that have discrete instruments in the surrounds that it is not worth mentioning. I have nearly 800 multichannel recordings, and maybe 15 of them have discrete instruments placed in the surrounds.
Have you ever been to a concert where all of the information hitting your ears is coming from the front only? I highly doubt it. How about the crowd noises happening from behind a orchestra? Not in any concert hall or venue I have been in.
You must be talking to folks in a reverberation chamber, because multichannel system are outselling 2 channel system by at least 20-1 based on NDP recent survey.
Anecdotal stories are only valuable within your own world. Your opinions have always been based on myths, outdated, recycled anecdotal information, and talk from a single minded crowd.
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I think we are used to your uniformed, airheaded, unfactual opinions as well.
Once again, you base everything on somebody's else's finances of which you know nothing about. You can save this green crap you just spewed up, it is not relevant to anything in this discussion.
First of all, I do know about the finances of the people I referred to. How did you determine that I don't? ASSumption?
Secondly, can you explain to me the difference between an Unfactual Opinion, and a Factual Opinion when the definition of Opinion is "a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge"?
Why do you think it's called an "Opinion", genius?
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OK, so here are your first comments. They are not really about the article or the original post. They are comments about what I posted and nothing much else. Maybe you need to re-read your own comments. Also, go back and note that not ONCE did you respond to the OP or the article, but rather played your normal game of picking apart everyone else replies sentence by sentence.
Cherry pick much?. I think you do this because I addressed your comments first - which by the way were stupid. But let's check out my comments with Smoke which address the article directly - can we George Washington(maybe he could not tell a lie, but you did).
He is not correct on so many fronts. Steve has openly admitted that he has never owned a quality surround system. So his perspective is rather limited in the first place. He also openly admitted that he lays down when he listens to music. That is not great for either 2 channel or multichannel. Steve is a casual music listener, and there are some of us who are active listeners who listen to music like we listen in a concert venue or hall.
http://forums.audioreview.com/home-t...ead-39991.html
Comment #12. Read it if you have the capacity to do so.
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First of all, I do know about the finances of the people I referred to. How did you determine that I don't? ASSumption?
I know because you made this stupid statement stupid.
As for your second remark, spiteful as usual, the people I talk to are in the same pay scale as myself and below. We do not have the cash and multiple houses and spare gear as you do and I guess the people you associate with. We all know the Haves don't spend much time with the Have Not's except to belittle them.
You made this statement, and you don't know if I am a have, have less, little, or nothing. So you were referring to me, but proclaim you do know my financial position. BS! Your nose is growing. The haves have very little time to belittle anyone, especially the have nots. I have no time to belittle you - you do a great job all by yourself.
Secondly, one of the biggest, foolish mistake you consistently make is it is all about throwing money at the equipment. That is not my approach at all, and if you could actually read my post(which I don't think you are capable of understanding) then you would understand this. If a component(no matter of cost), could not reach my standards of compliance to industry approved spec's(THX, PM3, Academy, and multichannel AES standards), then no matter what it costs(tube amps come to mind), I am not going to purchase it. It is not about component cost, it is about performance capabilities for me.
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Secondly, can you explain to me the difference between an Unfactual Opinion, and a Factual Opinion when the definition of Opinion is "a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge"?
Easy(put on your extra brain power, you are going to need it based on what little you already posses.)
An unfactual opinion is subjective, not objective. A subjective opinion can be made in a closet, with a highly degraded pair of ears(like yours and Stevens). A factual opinion is based on established criteria and objective science. Listeners have their hearing tested. The room has been corrected for neutrality instead of personal colorations. And the tests stand up to scientific scrutiny. Your personal tastes do not stand up well against a 3000 person sample. Do you have the capacity to understand the difference between the two?
Doubt it based on experience.....
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Why do you think it's called an "Opinion", genius?
There are two types of "opinion" airhead. An informed and educated one, and one that a monkey can come up with. You seem to fall in the monkey slot time and time again.
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Originally Posted by Feanor
Sir T, you explain your position very well but I'm still inclined to agree that a stereo track is desirable for the few who want it.
Bill, we can't put everyone needs on a single disc. Stereo does not work very well with movies, and the market has spoken and does not want stereo. There is no way I would waste a dime adding a format for less than 1% of the market. I would not waste the bandwidth or the storage as well.
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Personally I have an m/c system and that is what I almost use for movies. It's not up to your, very high, standards but it works pretty well. On the other hand my wife occasionally watches movies in stereo on another system mainly used to watch TV.
This would point out to me your wife's listening needs are not as critical as yours. This is no reason to include a stereo track on Bluray.
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This is a point on which you have consistently shown insensitivity. Many people continue to use modest, stereo systems because of cost and/or difficulty placing surround speakers. In an era of stagnating or declining median incomes and the impoverishment of hte working and lower middle classes, the low-end market for all sorts of relatively low end products will grow, not shrink.
Here is something you continue to miss. The cost of decent performing equipment has dropped very sharply in the last decade. A quality receiver can be had for $1000 dollars, and that was not possible ten years ago. A decent projector can be had for $3000 or less, and that was not possible a decade ago. Thanks to Emotiva, a 5 channel amp can be had for less than a $1000 dollars. That was not possible five years ago. As a matter of fact Emotiva's pre-pro 5 channel amp combo goes for $1099 dollars, and reviews say the combo sets a new performance standard for this price range. Combine that with mid priced speakers, well setup, calibrated and voiced in a room with decent acoustics, and you can do a full 5.1 system for far less than you could a decade ago. Survey's have shown this.
The market for the low end has always been pretty strong. Look at the sales of Vizio televisions. They have always been underperformers when compared to Samsung, Sony, and Panasonic, but that has not prevented them from outselling them all.
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I know because you made this stupid statement stupid.
As for your second remark, spiteful as usual, the people I talk to are in the same pay scale as myself and below. We do not have the cash and multiple houses and spare gear as you do and I guess the people you associate with. We all know the Haves don't spend much time with the Have Not's except to belittle them.
You made this statement, and you don't know if I am a have, have less, little, or nothing. So you were referring to me, but proclaim you do know my financial position. BS! Your nose is growing. The haves have very little time to belittle anyone, especially the have nots. I have no time to belittle you - you do a great job all by yourself.
Secondly, one of the biggest, foolish mistake you consistently make is it is all about throwing money at the equipment. That is not my approach at all, and if you could actually read my post(which I don't think you are capable of understanding) then you would understand this. If a component(no matter of cost), could not reach my standards of compliance to industry approved spec's(THX, PM3, Academy, and multichannel AES standards), then no matter what it costs(tube amps come to mind), I am not going to purchase it. It is not about component cost, it is about performance capabilities for me.
Easy(put on your extra brain power, you are going to need it based on what little you already posses.)
An unfactual opinion is subjective, not objective. A subjective opinion can be made in a closet, with a highly degraded pair of ears(like yours and Stevens). A factual opinion is based on established criteria and objective science. Listeners have their hearing tested. The room has been corrected for neutrality instead of personal colorations. And the tests stand up to scientific scrutiny. Your personal tastes do not stand up well against a 3000 person sample. Do you have the capacity to understand the difference between the two?
Doubt it based on experience.....
There are two types of "opinion" airhead. An informed and educated one, and one that a monkey can come up with. You seem to fall in the monkey slot time and time again.
Unless you have repeatedly lied to us here, you have talked about having multiple houses, multiple systems, gear in storage that you put systems together with for your children, bragged about all the gear you have and without actually saying it, refer to your close or over 6 figure salary if you actually had the jobs you claim to have had.
So now all of that is untrue? You really never made any money or have multiple houses? All the gear in your sig is just for bragging?
And of course the name calling continues because as usual, you have no other tactics.
By the way, when are you actually going to respond to the OP and the article? I still have not seen a single response to the OP here, just you picking apart all the other responses.
I am also not sure why you are directing comments about throwing money at gear my way. Other than 2 OPPO 93s and a cheap pair of Polk speakers for my gym room, I have not purchased any new gear for over 15 years. So please point out again all the money I have thrown at gear Terry.
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Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
The cost of decent performing equipment has dropped very sharply in the last decade. A quality receiver can be had for $1000 dollars, and that was not possible ten years ago. A decent projector can be had for $3000 or less, and that was not possible a decade ago. Thanks to Emotiva, a 5 channel amp can be had for less than a $1000 dollars. That was not possible five years ago. As a matter of fact Emotiva's pre-pro 5 channel amp combo goes for $1099 dollars, and reviews say the combo sets a new performance standard for this price range. Combine that with mid priced speakers, well setup, calibrated and voiced in a room with decent acoustics, and you can do a full 5.1 system for far less than you could a decade ago. Survey's have shown this.
The market for the low end has always been pretty strong. Look at the sales of Vizio televisions. They have always been underperformers when compared to Samsung, Sony, and Panasonic, but that has not prevented them from outselling them all.
I wish I could afford this sort of equipment !!!! Sure, a buck buys you much more performance than it used to, but you're mistaken if you see the sort equipment above is accessible to the typical low-end consumer. People by Vizio because that's all they can afford. Personally I have to make do with an Onkyo TX-SR508, about C$500, and that only because I chose to spend some of my inheritance from my late mother. A "decent" projector is out of the question for me.
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Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
You made this statement, and you don't know if I am a have, have less, little, or nothing.
Interesting since nobody else here has an $85K Projector. Guess you got it used for a couple hundred right?
That's right, I was talking about you.
Try feeding us some more crap Terry.
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Stereo, mono, quadro....Heck, just enjoy the music, man! :ciappa:
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Originally Posted by Auricauricle
Stereo, mono, quadro....Heck, just enjoy the music, man! :ciappa:
Blast from the past.
Hows it going?
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Originally Posted by Hyfi
Unless you have repeatedly lied to us here, you have talked about having multiple houses, multiple systems, gear in storage that you put systems together with for your children, bragged about all the gear you have and without actually saying it, refer to your close or over 6 figure salary if you actually had the jobs you claim to have had.
I have never talked about how I got those houses. I could have inherited them all, and only purchased one. I could have went in a partnership with my friends to purchase some or all of them. I have never discussed that, so what you do(as usual) is fill in the blanks with your own ignorant airheaded assumptions.
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So now all of that is untrue? You really never made any money or have multiple houses? All the gear in your sig is just for bragging?
Looks like more ASSumptions to me.
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And of course the name calling continues because as usual, you have no other tactics.
I call it as I see it. I have always thought you were pretty damn stupid, and you continue to confirm this over and over again.
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By the way, when are you actually going to respond to the OP and the article? I still have not seen a single response to the OP here, just you picking apart all the other responses.
By the way, I already did through my response to Smoke. Can't you read? I don't have to respond to the OP to address the article. You respond how you want to, and I will do the same. Refrain from telling me how or who to respond to.
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I am also not sure why you are directing comments about throwing money at gear my way. Other than 2 OPPO 93s and a cheap pair of Polk speakers for my gym room, I have not purchased any new gear for over 15 years. So please point out again all the money I have thrown at gear Terry.
First AZZhole, my name is not Terry. Second, I was talking about your comment to me.
You seem to have a problem distinguishing your butt from a hole in the ground. Does this happen to you much?
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Originally Posted by Hyfi
Interesting since nobody else here has an $85K Projector. Guess you got it used for a couple hundred right?
That's right, I was talking about you.
Try feeding us some more crap Terry.
You want to try again idiot? Lowfy, I don't have anything to prove to you, so you need to STFU and go get your life.
You can't taunt me, you can't insult me, but what you are doing is contining to show just how jealous you are because somebody worked their azz off and did well for themselves, and you ended up being a loser who couldn't afford to buy a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
You are nothing more the a jealous hater, and you don't and won't get any respect from me.
Bugger off loser. Go lick a frozen stop sign.
By the way stupid, my projector did not cost anywhere near $85K.
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Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
First AZZhole, my name is not Terry. Second, I was talking about your comment to me.
You seem to have a problem distinguishing your butt from a hole in the ground. Does this happen to you much?
I have a hard time distinguishing my Butt from you Terry. I really don't care what your name is, you are just Terry to me and you will NEVER be addressed as Sir Anything.
It must be nice to have the Ex Moderator Free Pass card here because you you would be thrown right off of the other forums I frequent from the tone of your first post here.
Keep up the good work saving me from myself, Terry! If anyone can do it it will be you.
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I have never talked about how I got those houses. I could have inherited them all, and only purchased one. I could have went in a partnership with my friends to purchase some or all of them. I have never discussed that, so what you do(as usual) is fill in the blanks with your own ignorant airheaded assumptions.
You don't have to talk about it for it to be obvious. If you really had/have the jobs you say you do/did, and you were not making a 6 figure salary, then you are the real idiot, not the rest of us.
Now tell us again how you got that $85K Projector? Oh that's right, your grandma died and willed it to you. You are more stupid than you claim the rest of us to be if you think anyone is going to believe all this back peddling now. You have plenty more than most others here and you can;t hide that fact.
Why do you even take the time to respond to me? It seems you are just lowering yourself to be as stupid as I am by taking the time.
You know I only respond to you to continue to push your buttons, which seems to work EVERY time. When are you gonna learn?
A per the response to the OP, earlier you told me that your first response was addressing the OP. But in reality, your first post was to attack me as usual. Now it's a response to Smokey. Which one is it or can't you keep track of your own BS?
Have a nice day, Terry!
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Originally Posted by Feanor
I wish I could afford this sort of equipment !!!! Sure, a buck buys you much more performance than it used to, but you're mistaken if you see the sort equipment above is accessible to the typical low-end consumer. People by Vizio because that's all they can afford. Personally I have to make do with an Onkyo TX-SR508, about C$500, and that only because I chose to spend some of my inheritance from my late mother. A "decent" projector is out of the question for me.
Bill, you have to be smart with your purchases if you are on a budget or limited income. Christmas sales, black friday sales, bogo sales, spring clearances are all ways to get decent equipment for cheap(relative) prices.
Personally, I have never paid retail prices for any of my equipment. I bargain, make deals and agreements, and in some cases have waited for sales. I have even allowed a speaker and amp builder to turn my reference theater into is personal testing lab. In exchange, I get to keep what he builds and installs if I like it. Also, working for a studio, I can get high end used equipment for next to nothing. This is how I got my "so called"(out of ignorance) $85k projector.
Everyone has their priorities based on their income, and I recognize that. However, I have seen people who make very little money pull together a very good, if not excellent system by saving their money, and waiting for sales.
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I have a hard time distinguishing my Butt from you Terry. I really don't care what your name is, you are just Terry to me and you will NEVER be addressed as Sir Anything.
You have a hard time distinguishing your butt from your own face, so I don't feel insulted by that comment at all. It just proves just how stupid and airheaded your really are.
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It must be nice to have the Ex Moderator Free Pass card here because you you would be thrown right off of the other forums I frequent from the tone of your first post here.
Well stupid, we are not on the other forums.
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Keep up the good work saving me from myself, Terry! If anyone can do it it will be you.
I don't want to save you. You could drop dead today and I wouldn't care. I would even give you the poison.
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You don't have to talk about it for it to be obvious. If you really had/have the jobs you say you do/did, and you were not making a 6 figure salary, then you are the real idiot, not the rest of us.
I don't think I have discussed my salary, or anything else that personal on ANY forum. It is none of your business. Until I confirm or deny anything, it is not obvious, it is another airheaded ASSumption.
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Now tell us again how you got that $85K Projector? Oh that's right, your grandma died and willed it to you. You are more stupid than you claim the rest of us to be if you think anyone is going to believe all this back peddling now. You have plenty more than most others here and you can;t hide that fact.
Lowfy, you are not really that bright. My projector did not cost $85K even if purchased retail. Digital Projection does not have projectors designed for the consumer market that cost anywhere near that price. Of course as a cheap bottom feeder, you would not know this. Only their commercial products carry that kind of price tag.
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Why do you even take the time to respond to me? It seems you are just lowering yourself to be as stupid as I am by taking the time.
Perhaps I am giving you an opportunity to raise yourself up(if that is possible). Even a skid row loser like yourself has the potential of raising themselves up. Perhaps you don't have that potential.
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You know I only respond to you to continue to push your buttons, which seems to work EVERY time. When are you gonna learn?
Did it ever occur to you that I respond to you for the same reasons? Of course not, you always think you have outsmarted somebody or have the upper hand. That is why I think you are such an idiot.
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A per the response to the OP, earlier you told me that your first response was addressing the OP. But in reality, your first post was to attack me as usual. Now it's a response to Smokey. Which one is it or can't you keep track of your own BS?
Have a nice day, Terry!
Attack you? Why waste my time? I am attacking your ignorant statements, which spout out of your keyboard endlessly. Hell, I don't know why you even posted to this thread. You don't know jack crap about surround, and that is patently obvious.
You have a nice day as well ignorant idiot!!!!!
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Terry, if you were pushing my buttons, I would be the one doing all the name calling. And again, if you actually had the jobs you claim, any moron can do the math. Except maybe you.
Doesn't one of your great status have something better to do than hang out here taking thread dumps?
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Way I see it, you know you can only do with what you've got. Got a small room, play small music on small speakers; got a big room play big music on big speakers. In my bungalow, my little Spendors kick butt on jazz and chamber ensembles. On bigger music, a nice set of phones are all it takes to get my toes tapping. Sure, I throw in a sub now and then, but the house is too small and my wife and cat shed too much hair. I just give it enough to enjoy the sound of distant thunder, if you get my meaning. A little tickle from the bass viols and tympani. A middle channel (Paradigm) is nice: gives a nice spread, but the place is too small and the accommodations too crapmed to give it full voice. If I lived somewhere where space was available I might go bigger, listen to big. (And this has been said already, if not you can quote me on it): If it fits it fits. As far as adding more, nah: let the room speak for itself. Now, if you don't mind, I'll go back to the Bartok and let y'all sort out what you've got to sort out...
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Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
By the way stupid, my projector did not cost anywhere near $85K.
Here is the Projector you list in your Signature
Digital Projection Titan Reference 1080p 3D DLP Projector | Sound & Vision
So if yours did not cost what the review says, maybe you listed the wrong one in your signature by mistake....or maybe not.
"Sir Terrence
Titan Reference 3D 1080p projector
200" SI Black Diamond II screen
Oppo BDP-103
Grass Valley Cell based Pro HD A/V switcher
Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 EQ module
Audyssey XT32 Sub module
9 Onkyo M-5099 power amp
9 Onkyo M-510 power amp
9 Onkyo M-508 power amp
5 custom CAL amps for subs
3 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid monitors
8 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid surrounds
3 custom 15" sealed FFEC servo subs
4 custom 15" H-PAS FFEC servo subs
THX Style Baffle wall"
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Originally Posted by Hyfi
Here is the Projector you list in your Signature
Digital Projection Titan Reference 1080p 3D DLP Projector | Sound & Vision
So if yours did not cost what the review says, maybe you listed the wrong one in your signature by mistake....or maybe not.
"Sir Terrence
Titan Reference 3D 1080p projector
200" SI Black Diamond II screen
Oppo BDP-103
Grass Valley Cell based Pro HD A/V switcher
Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 EQ module
Audyssey XT32 Sub module
9 Onkyo M-5099 power amp
9 Onkyo M-510 power amp
9 Onkyo M-508 power amp
5 custom CAL amps for subs
3 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid monitors
8 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid surrounds
3 custom 15" sealed FFEC servo subs
4 custom 15" H-PAS FFEC servo subs
THX Style Baffle wall"
Read my response to Bill stupid.
A. I didn't pay retail for my projector. And if I did, it still would not cost $85k
B. Digital Projection has MANY models with the Titan name
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 330-3D L
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 330-3D P
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 330-3D P Ultra Contrast
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 330-L
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 330-P
Digital Projection Titan 1080p 3D-L
Digital Projection Titan 1080p 3D-L Ultra Contrast
Digital Projection Titan 1080p 3D-P
Digital Projection Titan 1080p 3D-P Ultra Contrast
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 660
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 660 Ultra Contrast
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 660-3D
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 660-3D Ultra Contrast
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 800 3D
Digital Projection Titan 1080p Dual Quad 3D(This is the model in the picture)
That is just a few of them.
C. The projector in the link is NOT the same projector as mine.
D. Even at full retail, the model of the Titan I have didn't cost anywhere near $85,000.
E. That model is a 2010 model that is no longer made. Mine is a early 2012 model.
F. The model in this picture is a two lamp model. Mine has single VERY powerful lamp.
In the future stupid, do better research so you know exactly what you are talking about. Even though I enjoy making you look stupid, it is still very painful to watch you flail like fish out of water.
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Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
Read my response to Bill stupid.
A. I didn't pay retail for my projector. And if I did, it still would not cost $85k
B. Digital Projection has MANY models with the Titan name
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 330-3D L
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 330-3D P
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 330-3D P Ultra Contrast
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 330-L
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 330-P
Digital Projection Titan 1080p 3D-L
Digital Projection Titan 1080p 3D-L Ultra Contrast
Digital Projection Titan 1080p 3D-P
Digital Projection Titan 1080p 3D-P Ultra Contrast
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 660
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 660 Ultra Contrast
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 660-3D
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 660-3D Ultra Contrast
Digital Projection TITAN 1080p 800 3D
Digital Projection Titan 1080p Dual Quad 3D(This is the model in the picture)
That is just a few of them.
C. The projector in the link is NOT the same projector as mine.
D. Even at full retail, the model of the Titan I have didn't cost anywhere near $85,000.
E. That model is a 2010 model that is no longer made. Mine is a early 2012 model.
F. The model in this picture is a two lamp model. Mine has single VERY powerful lamp.
In the future stupid, do better research so you know exactly what you are talking about. Even though I enjoy making you look stupid, it is still very painful to watch you flail like fish out of water.
Thanks Terrie!
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Originally Posted by Hyfi
Terry, if you were pushing my buttons, I would be the one doing all the name calling. And again, if you actually had the jobs you claim, any moron can do the math. Except maybe you.
Stupid, you cannot do the math if you have no detail. You can't ASSume your way to factual information. I have never stated my salary, never stated how I purchased my equipment, never stated the cost of my equipment, and never given any personal detail on anything on any forum. What you are doing here(and you always do) is trying to fill in the blanks with your ASSumptions, not factual information. A guess will never get you to facts.
Only idiots like you do this.
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Doesn't one of your great status have something better to do than hang out here taking thread dumps?
Don't you? I have a suggestion for ya. Go back to school so you can get a better job. That way you don't have to come to forums like this jealously crying about what somebody else has, and you don't. You won't have to hate on somebody else's success just because you are a loser.
No go....run!
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Originally Posted by Hyfi
Thanks Terrie!
There is nobody on this forum with that name stupid.
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