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    Walmart prices do fall

    As I browse price of the new HDTV on the market regularly for future purchase, I have noticed that Walmart do lower prices on their LCD TVs....albiet their slogan.

    For example, look at this thread from last month where I quote Walmart prices on Proscan TVs(post #34):

    http://forums.audioreview.com/showth...art#post330241

    As you can see, I quote 40 inch Proscan 1080p LCD for $448, and 42 inch LED-LCD model for $649. And that was the price from the Walmart link.

    Now if you click the link in same post, 40 inch LCD have dropped from $448 to $428, and 42 inch LED have dropped from $649 to $598. Wonder how much further prices will drop.

    So what is the purpose of this post. Just FYI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey
    Wonder how much further prices will drop.
    Good gawd, how much longer are you gonna "wonder"? Yeah, the prices might drop another $20 or $50 by the end of the year. But, that's all the more time spent wondering and less time watching.

    Buy the dang TV, ANY TV!

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey
    So what is the purpose of this post. Just FYI
    Seems that starting up these HDTV threads is Smokey's method of procrastinating! But, then when you finally buy a TV, what will you talk about then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    Seems that starting up these HDTV threads is Smokey's method of procrastinating! But, then when you finally buy a TV, what will you talk about then?
    Then it will be time to talk about bluray player

    The size I am looking for 37 inches LCD do not seem to be as common as 32 inch or 40 inches. I was at Sears the other day, and they had bunch of 40 inches LCDs on display for under $600, but only two 37 inch models from Samsung and LG.

    Samsung is charging premium on their TVs, however LG seem to be right up my alley with all features all want, but reviews on LG said that it suffer from "light" blacks. So the search goes on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey
    Then it will be time to talk about bluray player

    The size I am looking for 37 inches LCD do not seem to be as common as 32 inch or 40 inches. I was at Sears the other day, and they had bunch of 40 inches LCDs on display for under $600, but only two 37 inch models from Samsung and LG.

    Samsung is charging premium on their TVs, however LG seem to be right up my alley with all features all want, but reviews on LG said that it suffer from "light" blacks. So the search goes on
    Oh for the love of money get the 40" Smoke. What are you waiting for, the second coming?
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    Gimme that hat Festus! I'm gonna whack you over the head with it!!!

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    Believe me when I say it is rough out there

    When looking at LCDs in the store, picture quality on them look good to awesome even on cheap ones. But when reading their reviews on net, there seem to be everthing wrong with those LCDs.

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    This one looked quite good in the store and is a brand I've seen out for quite some time. I'm trying to get more info on them. It's a 40 but they have 32 versions. Toshiba had a 37 inch model for around this money. Toshiba is a name brand.

    http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/...b54687fceaen02

    An article written on CNET 6 years ago about this off brand stuff might be of interest http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-5510938-1.html

    Back then you were saving 1/3 or more of the list price but today you are only saving a hundred to two hundred dollars. Granted the off brands are probably a lot better than they were. I really like the Aquos television I saw as well - it was Sharp indeed. Insignia is supposedly a disguised LG. When I lived in Korea LG was the premium television brand and Samsung was the low rent stuff. In Japan LG was priced way above Samsung and Sony and was Japan's leading brand. My Korean friend mentioned that LG was their top brand. Having said that they have a lot of interesting Hyundai and Kia cars that are not sold in the west. He said they ship all the poor cars to the west because we'll buy anything LOL, while they keep the best models at home.

    It's difficult to know what the hell is being sent to the west. Assuming that LG is the best LCD brand in the world as my Korean and Japanese friends indicate - it seems those "best" ones are not the ones being sent to North America because they seem to get 3rd place status behind Sony and Samsung. But I find online reviews are not current enough. Some publications rave about Vizio and others think it's a dog.

    If you are a videophile and watch lots of Blu-Ray from what I can tell you should be buying a Plasma - they seem to be the best option. If you watch a lot of television - and not a lot of movies then the off brands are fine because the best TVs won't put their quality to good use. If you sit fairly far away the difference between 720P and 1080P won't make much difference, and many reviews seem to indicate that some 120hz versus 60hz is difficult to see and not really worth the expense, and if you play video games forget Plasma. And with Plasma you probably MUST buy the 4 year or longer warranty which may blow any savings they offer.

    Personally, I might go with 32 inches now and wait for a front projector system that can allow for a much larger screen - prices of those are falling fast. Three years ago I saw a Panasonic system $1600 projector and maybe $500 for this special screen in a well lit room and it was very impressive. That was a special Christmas sale price but it had a nicer more film quality picture to me than any LCD I have seen. Surely there must be better FP systems than that one today for $1500.
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    Okay Smokey I have found the best television on the market at 42 inches - no holds barred and under $1000. LG's new Slim 42LD630. 240hz, 1080p - but why is it the best TV because Mark Levinson did the sound. That's right Mark Levinson designed the invisible speaker system - LOL. So no need for your surround sound receivers and other cluttered loudspeakers. Woohoo.

    Seriously for $999 it looks to be quite impressive. I like the new slim designs and it seems packed with all the latest stuff - even has a headphone jack which is nice.

    So Far this is my leading candidate. http://www.lg.com/ca_en/tv-audio-vid...tv-42LD630.jsp

    http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...15aa4a2fa5en02

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    Thanks RGA for info. I like to have larger size, but I am restricted to 37 inch due to width of entertainment center.

    Insignia LCD seem to be good TVs for money, and from reveiws, much better than low brand names such as Proscan or Dynex. I found this web site where it rate LCD and Plasma TVs from 52 to 32 inch, and measure their color temperature, blacklevels, gray scale, etc..

    Very informative:

    http://www.televisioninfo.com/ratings.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey
    Believe me when I say it is rough out there

    When looking at LCDs in the store, picture quality on them look good to awesome even on cheap ones. But when reading their reviews on net, there seem to be everthing wrong with those LCDs.
    Its called propaganda smoke, been going on for awhile, except in the modern
    corporate world its called marketing.
    DIDNT THE new LED LCD sets look great? And BTW, when are you gonna break down and pull the chain, are you gonna be like that guy with the lamp, wandering forever , looking for an honest man?
    Or the guy who didnt buy a color set till 1989, said he was waiting for them to perfect it?
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    I read the site and I would look carefully at Insignia here. If you notice they had a top score in the 35-39 inch part but there really isn't much competition. The model series is the same as their other tvs and in the 40-44 inch part they were dead last. This implies to me that their 37 inch model would also score near the bottom if they did not separate the sizes. In other words if they had a list from 35-44 inches the Insignias would both be near the bottom of the heap. The LG 37 is $180 more but they actually seem to like it a bit better (perhaps the Insignia wins on value) but the LG is 240hz refresh and the price has come down. Though I can't find these models in Canada.

    I noticed that LG has done quite well in all the reviews I have seen CR and the like and they seem to be priced a bit lower.

    Too bad you can't go higher than 37 because it seems like the better technology is in the 40 inch and up group for not a whole lot more. Have you considered getting rid of the entertainment center. My mom bought the 40 inch SONY TV and it is very nice and quite large - but if she could do it again she would have bought the 50 or 55 incher.

    I am looking at 32 inch because I live a bit like transient and don't want to be lugging a huge tc all over the place. But the slim TV's with the slim boxes make 40 inch a possibility now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey
    Thanks RGA for info. I like to have larger size, but I am restricted to 37 inch due to width of entertainment center.

    Insignia LCD seem to be good TVs for money, and from reveiws, much better than low brand names such as Proscan or Dynex. I found this web site where it rate LCD and Plasma TVs from 52 to 32 inch, and measure their color temperature, blacklevels, gray scale, etc..

    Very informative:

    http://www.televisioninfo.com/ratings.php
    They are good for the money...But!!..YOU CAN GET A LOT MORE for the money if you spend just a little more money. Or maybe its just me, but Insignia has never floated my boat.
    AS FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, its time for a new one, or do like a friend did,
    saw off the top half, hang the TV.
    Vizio has about the best 37" for the money, although a friend loves his 42" PHILLIPS.
    My 37" VIZIO at my parents is going on four years old, still looks great.
    They are about the best cheap TV maker out there, although I did see some element
    sets at WALFART, thought they were defunct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    I am looking at 32 inch because I live a bit like transient and don't want to be lugging a huge tc all over the place. But the slim TV's with the slim boxes make 40 inch a possibility now.

    There is a HUGE weight difference. I went from 27" tube (flat panel) to 32" LCD. I could barely move the 27", but it's nothing to lift and lug around the LCD. There's room for a cat to walk across in front and in back of the tv at the same time now.

    Hate it when they sit and look at you directly in front of the screen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    They are good for the money...But!!..YOU CAN GET A LOT MORE for the money if you spend just a little more money. Or maybe its just me, but Insignia has never floated my boat.
    AS FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, its time for a new one, or do like a friend did,
    saw off the top half, hang the TV.
    Vizio has about the best 37" for the money, although a friend loves his 42" PHILLIPS.
    My 37" VIZIO at my parents is going on four years old, still looks great.
    They are about the best cheap TV maker out there, although I did see some element
    sets at WALFART, thought they were defunct.

    ....by the phrase "at my parents" do you mean upstairs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey
    Thanks RGA for info. I like to have larger size, but I am restricted to 37 inch due to width of entertainment center.

    Insignia LCD seem to be good TVs for money, and from reveiws, much better than low brand names such as Proscan or Dynex. I found this web site where it rate LCD and Plasma TVs from 52 to 32 inch, and measure their color temperature, blacklevels, gray scale, etc..

    Very informative:

    http://www.televisioninfo.com/ratings.php
    Smokster....

    Buy the best TV you can buy right now for the money, the largest size with the best colors, resolution, and functionality. A TV is an investment designed to last several years, hopefully 10 or more and longer than that if you don't mind having one that is outdated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeruvianSkies
    ....by the phrase "at my parents" do you mean upstairs?
    so IT WASN'T A NIGHTMARE.
    That schizo nutcase, that melted down, started telling lies, and harrasing me to the point of a restraining order, who was chased off this site fully encased in tar and feathers...
    HES' BACK.
    And no, I DONT MEAN "UPSTAIRS", you see, after you graduate from high school,
    you move from your parents house, as you will discover one day.
    THEN , AFTER you live your life, and your family homes neighborhood has
    deteriated(pretty much like your mental health) you discover two old folks afraid to
    step outside, who are stuck where they are.
    I HAVE LIVED my life, I have nothing to prove, and since I AM SINGLE, I get to take care
    of the folks.
    Unlike you, who never moved out in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
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    Hint...don't dis his speakers, his fragil ego will keep him on your back for months
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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    IThe LG 37 is $180 more but they actually seem to like it a bit better (perhaps the Insignia wins on value) but the LG is 240hz refresh and the price has come down. Though I can't find these models in Canada.

    I noticed that LG has done quite well in all the reviews I have seen CR and the like and they seem to be priced a bit lower.
    What I like about LG is that it give users control over its color temperature and gray scale, so it can be calibrated to corrcet temperature (6500k degree) without going into its service menu (its called ISFcc).

    LCDs like Sony, Toshiba or Panasonic will not let users adjust color temperature without getting the service manual ($50) which also can get complicated.

    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    They are good for the money...But!!..YOU CAN GET A LOT MORE for the money if you spend just a little more money. Or maybe its just me, but Insignia has never floated my boat.
    AS FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, its time for a new one, or do like a friend did,
    saw off the top half, hang the TV.
    Vizio has about the best 37" for the money, although a friend loves his 42" PHILLIPS.
    My 37" VIZIO at my parents is going on four years old, still looks great.
    They are about the best cheap TV maker out there, although I did see some element
    sets at WALFART, thought they were defunct.
    Pix, I thought you said you are going to clean up your post, and use back space to get rid of hard carrige return between your sentences. If you are not going to take time fixing your post, don't expect us to take time reading it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    This one looked quite good in the store and is a brand I've seen out for quite some time. I'm trying to get more info on them. It's a 40 but they have 32 versions. Toshiba had a 37 inch model for around this money. Toshiba is a name brand.

    http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/...b54687fceaen02

    An article written on CNET 6 years ago about this off brand stuff might be of interest http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-5510938-1.html

    Back then you were saving 1/3 or more of the list price but today you are only saving a hundred to two hundred dollars.
    Therein lies the rub with going to the off brands. With an off brand TV, you're basically buying a disposable TV because they're made during one-off manufacturing runs -- two models from the same off brand might come from entirely different outsource suppliers. No service manuals, limited availability of spare parts, and spotty post warranty support at best. With my Panasonic, I can order any part for the TV off their website -- every part is listed, and service manuals are available for purchase. Name brand TV manufacturers have a full customer service infrastructure, and that's part of the price difference.

    When flat panel TVs cost more than $2,000, the off brand pricing made the tradeoffs more worthwhile.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    Granted the off brands are probably a lot better than they were. I really like the Aquos television I saw as well - it was Sharp indeed. Insignia is supposedly a disguised LG. When I lived in Korea LG was the premium television brand and Samsung was the low rent stuff. In Japan LG was priced way above Samsung and Sony and was Japan's leading brand. My Korean friend mentioned that LG was their top brand.
    But, you also have to consider that Samsung is a much more established name in North America. LG is a relative newcomer to this market -- they made their move to more upscale markets by offering up some extra features like built in DVRs and THX calibration, and including longer warranties (not sure if they still include two-year warranties standard). But, LG had to do that, because they were otherwise not competitive with the other brands. FWIW, the enthusiast sites generally rank LG below Samsung and Sony on measures like color accuracy and motion resolution.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    Having said that they have a lot of interesting Hyundai and Kia cars that are not sold in the west. He said they ship all the poor cars to the west because we'll buy anything LOL, while they keep the best models at home.
    Or alternatively, they didn't ship their best cars west because they knew they would be noncompetitive against other makes and models that are sold here. Hyundai and Kia were only able to gain a foothold in the North American market because at that time, lower Korean labor costs enabled them to undercut Japanese, American, and European competitors on price. Granted, they have substantially upped their product quality and now make most of the cars they sell here in North America.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    It's difficult to know what the hell is being sent to the west. Assuming that LG is the best LCD brand in the world as my Korean and Japanese friends indicate - it seems those "best" ones are not the ones being sent to North America because they seem to get 3rd place status behind Sony and Samsung. But I find online reviews are not current enough. Some publications rave about Vizio and others think it's a dog.
    Frankly, I don't know anyone who says that LG is the best LCD brand in the world. What they are is a first-tier manufacturer (i.e., one that makes its products, and offers up full customer support) that very competitively prices its products, relative to the best selling brands. LG has a lot of good products in the North American market, and they include more features for the price than other manufacturers. But, you really have to watch out because they make some very questionable design choices with a lot of their products (such as their 120 Hz models that don't allow consumers to switch off the motion interpolation feature). For the most part, Samsung and Sony do things the right way with their LCD TVs.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    If you are a videophile and watch lots of Blu-Ray from what I can tell you should be buying a Plasma - they seem to be the best option. If you watch a lot of television - and not a lot of movies then the off brands are fine because the best TVs won't put their quality to good use.
    Not necessarily. IMO, the biggest advantage with plasma will continue to be the viewing angle -- the color accuracy remains the same no matter what angle you're at. And that's a big benefit if you sit off-center or have company over, no matter if you're watching video or film-based content.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    If you sit fairly far away the difference between 720P and 1080P won't make much difference,
    That's also contingent on the screen size. At 50", I think the difference is clearly visible at normal viewing distance. At 42" or below, it's marginal.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    and many reviews seem to indicate that some 120hz versus 60hz is difficult to see and not really worth the expense,
    Better not be professional reviewers, because the juddering effect with film-based sources on a 60 Hz TV is noticeable if you look for it. 120 Hz (or 72 Hz and 96 Hz with plasma sets) will reduce the judder if it's implemented correctly.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    and if you play video games forget Plasma.
    Groundbeef is one of the biggest gamers on this site, and he uses a plasma set. And another consideration if you use a Wii is that LCD screens are a lot easier to damage with a flying Wiimote. (It takes a much lower impact force to render a LCD screen unwatchable than to crack the glass on a plasma panel)

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    And with Plasma you probably MUST buy the 4 year or longer warranty which may blow any savings they offer.
    The three-year reliability record for plasma sets is no different than with LCDs.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    Personally, I might go with 32 inches now and wait for a front projector system that can allow for a much larger screen - prices of those are falling fast. Three years ago I saw a Panasonic system $1600 projector and maybe $500 for this special screen in a well lit room and it was very impressive. That was a special Christmas sale price but it had a nicer more film quality picture to me than any LCD I have seen. Surely there must be better FP systems than that one today for $1500.
    Talk to GM and some of the others with front projection setups. The prices on projectors have been low for a while, but you're now getting better picture quality in the lower price ranges.
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    You seem really up on this stuff. What are your thoughts on Plasma for gaming. My plan is Sony PS3 - Honestly I don't play a lot of games but with the new games you tend to sit and play them for a few hours. Gone are the days of 20 minutes of Pac-Man. The games are kind of addicting. My concern is the burning colours into the screen. I had an old JVC tube television that actually burned a pink spot on the screen (could not be degaused as a fix).

    Plasma seems to have a bad rap for losing life and once it runs out of plasma the screen is dead. But they seem a fair bit less expensive up here than LCD Televisions.

    I remember that when Plasma first came out the consensus was that the picture was way better than LCD. Is a 40 inch 720p Plasma competitive with 1080 LCD. Is there anything to be looking for with Plasma.

    I kind of wrote them off and maybe that was unfair.

    I have a Sony Bravia 40 inch LCD here and if I have a complaint it's that some faces seem to morph - the forehead will move but the rest of the face doesn't. It's kind of weird. Noticeable in the center of the screen. Happens on TV program not on DVDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    Woochifer

    You seem really up on this stuff. What are your thoughts on Plasma for gaming. My plan is Sony PS3 - Honestly I don't play a lot of games but with the new games you tend to sit and play them for a few hours. Gone are the days of 20 minutes of Pac-Man. The games are kind of addicting. My concern is the burning colours into the screen. I had an old JVC tube television that actually burned a pink spot on the screen (could not be degaused as a fix).

    Plasma seems to have a bad rap for losing life and once it runs out of plasma the screen is dead. But they seem a fair bit less expensive up here than LCD Televisions.

    I remember that when Plasma first came out the consensus was that the picture was way better than LCD. Is a 40 inch 720p Plasma competitive with 1080 LCD. Is there anything to be looking for with Plasma.

    I kind of wrote them off and maybe that was unfair.

    I have a Sony Bravia 40 inch LCD here and if I have a complaint it's that some faces seem to morph - the forehead will move but the rest of the face doesn't. It's kind of weird. Noticeable in the center of the screen. Happens on TV program not on DVDs.
    THEY DON'T "RUN OUTTA PLASMA", but leaking gases that produce the plasma used to
    be a problem, not so much anymore.
    But burn in is, they claim to have fixed it, but the "fix"(a circuit that has the pic jumping around like a MEXICAN JUMPING BEAN) is a nusciance. On balance a LCD is better
    for gaming...and just about everything else.
    As for cheap TV sets, the tv has evolved into a non-fixable , disposable appliance,
    two forms, one, a cheap disposable device with a decent pic, the thing breaks, toss it.
    THE OTHER FORM is a long lasting but relatively more costly family heirloom, hand it down to the kids when you're ready to replace it(or the grandkids!)
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    Smokey:
    A couple of years ago, I was in the same boat. In order to have TV in our living room, I ran into a spousal restriction of having it fit inside an antique armoire. 37" was the largest that would fit. At the time, there were more options. I went with a Vizio because it was inexpensive and locally available. It also had problems. After two service calls, it went back to Sams. They cheerfully gave me my money back and I ordered a Toshiba Regza online. Its been a great TV but does have limitations. I am annoyed by the motion blur when watching basketball. Of course, Toshiba then introduced their super-thin bezel line and I found out a 40" in it would fit in the same space. Maybe they are still around online? Every time I watch that TV, I wish it was larger....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny B. Galt
    I went with a Vizio because it was inexpensive and locally available. It also had problems. After two service calls, it went back to Sams.
    Vizio seem to be good value for the money but from your experience and other reviews, their TV production seem to be very uneven. You might get one TV that is flawless, but the next one in line is a lemon. Also as Wooch mentioned, they lack customer service infrastructure, so better pray nothing goes wrong with it. Also their LCD reviews is nothing to write home about.


    They cheerfully gave me my money back and I ordered a Toshiba Regza online. Its been a great TV but does have limitations. I am annoyed by the motion blur when watching basketball. Of course, Toshiba then introduced their super-thin bezel line and I found out a 40" in it would fit in the same space.
    I don't know if you know this or not, but Toshiba started outsourcing their lower-mid end CRT and LCD TVs few years back (I think it was to Funai). So it is only Toshiba in name. Too bad though as they use to make some of best TVs in industry right up there with Sony and Panasonic.

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