View Poll Results: What means the most in your HT system? Audio or video?

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    I can't believe I actually thought about this for more than 3 seconds

    I'm gonna go with audio but it was hard to pick right away. I don't know, BR on my 60" SXRD be lookin' sweet.

    I gotta have a nice system though. I did all kinda audio upgrades before finally getting a big screen.

    Could you imagine a huge HD screen, but your not looking at it because during every explosive scene your little 8" Sony sub is just rattling away in the corner taking your attention away from the movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.J.
    I can't believe I actually thought about this for more than 3 seconds

    I'm gonna go with audio but it was hard to pick right away. I don't know, BR on my 60" SXRD be lookin' sweet.

    I gotta have a nice system though. I did all kinda audio upgrades before finally getting a big screen.

    Could you imagine a huge HD screen, but your not looking at it because during every explosive scene your little 8" Sony sub is just rattling away in the corner taking your attention away from the movie
    I need my explosions I want to feel them.
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    When I'm watching TV its video and when I'm listening to music its audio.

    I dont get all the fuss about trying to get audiphile sound from a HT system. Yes I want good sound from HT but it doesnt have to be great. When I'm watching a movie, I am engrossed in the story and I'm not paying too much attention to the sound as long as the dialog is clear. If I'm watching a movie and have to think that the sound is great or lousy, then the movie I'm watching sucks. I think that spending thousands of dollars on HT sound is absurd, but every one has their likes and dislikes.
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    Audio, without hesitation. Try watching U2: Vertigo 2005 with a crappy audio system. It ain't the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven
    When I'm watching TV its video and when I'm listening to music its audio.

    I dont get all the fuss about trying to get audiphile sound from a HT system. Yes I want good sound from HT but it doesnt have to be great. When I'm watching a movie, I am engrossed in the story and I'm not paying too much attention to the sound as long as the dialog is clear. If I'm watching a movie and have to think that the sound is great or lousy, then the movie I'm watching sucks. I think that spending thousands of dollars on HT sound is absurd, but every one has their likes and dislikes.
    I'm betting that you don't own any music on DVD's. Just one might sway you over to the dark side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by topspeed
    Audio, without hesitation. Try watching U2: Vertigo 2005 with a crappy audio system. It ain't the same.
    I stopped watching it when Bono made the concert a platform for is political agenda. So in this case... the audio killed the video.

    My $.02 to this one.

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    Oh, I see

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    Okay, I just re-read the original post. "Great video or Great audio". I didn't realize the topic was about the quality of the audio or the quality of the video, but if the pic was black & white, and the audio was mono, video would still get my vote.
    For clarification, to me "great video" is anything better than my CRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.J.
    20" CRT.....Dang GM can a brotha get at least 36"?
    Naw dawg, you only get a 19"! LOL

    G, I do not think this poll is very fair. Even Georgie porgie Lucas said that sound was half the experience. The two have a symbiant relationship, one cannot do without the other. The two are halfs that must be join together to get a whole. Can a man be married without a woman? I mean good gracious man.....(heads to the water cooler in disgust)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    For clarification, to me "great video" is anything better than my CRT.
    LOLOLOL, I did not know you were so easy to please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Naw dawg, you only get a 19"! LOL

    G, I do not think this poll is very fair. Even Georgie porgie Lucas said that sound was half the experience. The two have a symbiant relationship, one cannot do without the other. The two are halfs that must be join together to get a whole. Can a man be married without a woman? I mean good gracious man.....(heads to the water cooler in disgust)
    What's up Sir T!

    It's been a while since we exchanged posts. Before I comment on the George Lucas thing, I must acknowledge that you were correct in your prediction regarding the demise of HD DVD. I still believe that initially, the HD DVD technology was a more complete concept, therefore the picture quality of the early HD DVD's were a little better than Bluray. But, blu ray overcame the shortcomings and excelled. You were right, I was wrong.
    Now, about the 50/50 thing. Yes George did say that you can't have one without the other. But, correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't the creation of the THX standard just as important as the movie itself? I mean, when THX was developed, they marketed the hell out it!
    And in today's home theater market, if THX isn't stamped somewhere on the facsia of the AV Receiver, then perception dictates that the said receiver is for some reason or another not as good as one with the moniker. Dare to respond?!!!!(smile)
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    I own several music DVD's GM. Its just that all I require is just good sound when watching a movie and great sound when listening to CD's. Thats why I dont have 5.1 surround sound and only use front speakers with center and sub. And my center doesnt match my fronts. I have good HT sound and great 2ch audio. It works for my needs.

    And now I have great video with the recent purchase of my Sony XBR4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Naw dawg, you only get a 19"! LOL

    G, I do not think this poll is very fair. Even Georgie porgie Lucas said that sound was half the experience. The two have a symbiant relationship, one cannot do without the other. The two are halfs that must be join together to get a whole. Can a man be married without a woman? I mean good gracious man.....(heads to the water cooler in disgust)
    Dear T,

    Whats'a'matter? Can't make up your mind? You have to choose. Which child would you off to save the other? Only one can live.

    As far as, "Can a man be married without a woman?" That depends on what state you live in.

    Yours truly,

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven
    I own several music DVD's GM. Its just that all I require is just good sound when watching a movie and great sound when listening to CD's. Thats why I dont have 5.1 surround sound and only use front speakers with center and sub. And my center doesnt match my fronts. I have good HT sound and great 2ch audio. It works for my needs.

    And now I have great video with the recent purchase of my Sony XBR4.
    I bet your system sounds great either way.
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    Seems like a runaway for audio here on this audio sight. Duh.. I wonder how this poll would fair on big screen forums?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldgibson76
    What's up Sir T!

    It's been a while since we exchanged posts. Before I comment on the George Lucas thing, I must acknowledge that you were correct in your prediction regarding the demise of HD DVD. I still believe that initially, the HD DVD technology was a more complete concept, therefore the picture quality of the early HD DVD's were a little better than Bluray. But, blu ray overcame the shortcomings and excelled. You were right, I was wrong.
    Now, about the 50/50 thing. Yes George did say that you can't have one without the other. But, correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't the creation of the THX standard just as important as the movie itself? I mean, when THX was developed, they marketed the hell out it!
    And in today's home theater market, if THX isn't stamped somewhere on the facsia of the AV Receiver, then perception dictates that the said receiver is for some reason or another not as good as one with the moniker. Dare to respond?!!!!(smile)
    Wow, no response from "Sir T"! Am I not worthy?! Normally, I would have been lambasted with all types of insults and expressions of contempt!
    I wasn't contesting your post. I wanted to get a better understanding of it. Why 50/50 and do you truly subscribe to the Mr. Lucas' opinion. You do tend to submit unique perspectives on subject matter. (That was a compliment!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldgibson76
    Wow, no response from "Sir T"! Am I not worthy?! Normally, I would have been lambasted with all types of insults and expressions of contempt!
    I wasn't contesting your post. I wanted to get a better understanding of it. Why 50/50 and do you truly subscribe to the Mr. Lucas' opinion. You do tend to submit unique perspectives on subject matter. (That was a compliment!)
    Give'm time. He may just be hanging out at the water cooler AGAIN.
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    I went for audio...

    my own experiences, and psychological tests prove that audio can pass through more emotions than video (at least for movies and such...)

    that, and the fact that I currently have more interest in audio than in video...

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    This poll is stupid!

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    Poll this, stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    This may be the key. HT starts with the video. I did spend more on my video than I have on the audio. I have spent many a Sunday watching a football game while the audio was switched to music. I don't remember every listening to a show while watching a concert.
    Yo "GM"!

    Have you really seen the average concert video dvd?!!!! Dude, it's all about the AUDIO! There are some exceptions, but for the most part, the video is usually an after thought. An example: The Eagles "When Hell Freezes Over". DTS no doubt, but that storage wasn't used for video resolution, that was all audio. The same goes for their reunion concert. The video was a little better, but again, audio is what your there for! Now obviously, if you have Hi-Def Cable/Sat, then yes, the video quality is much better, almost on par with the audio, but the audio is still the virtue. And let's not go into concert dvd's on Bluray or HD DVD! Again, Audio! Even though it's in 1080P, the audio is paramount.

    Another example of why Audio is more important in Home Theater is because if you read this and other forums......Hi-Res audio is desired now. Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD MA is one of the main reasons HT enthusiast are trying to or have upgraded their AVR's. Having the 1080P is not enough! If the HiRes audio is available, then why not have it?! Get the full experience of High Def. I remember a while back, (early 2007) I was trying to drive home this same point. There were those on this forum who said that standard dolby digital and standard DTS was more than adequate and there would never be that much of a demand for DTHD or DTSHD/MA. This was articulated during a heated blu ray vs hd dvd discussion. I bet if you took a consensus now, that would not play at all!
    Just an opinion.
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    Ok, no Yoda talk here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    This poll is stupid!
    Rich,

    You are the perfect example for this thread! You mean to tell me that you purchased the RX-V3800 for HDMI switching only?! Hooking up those speakers and calibrating for sound quality was way down on your priority list!
    You couldn't wait to hear the sound improvement the RX-V produced over your HTR!
    Happy Tweaking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldgibson76
    Yo "GM"!

    Have you really seen the average concert video dvd?!!!! Dude, it's all about the AUDIO! There are some exceptions, but for the most part, the video is usually an after thought. An example: The Eagles "When Hell Freezes Over". DTS no doubt, but that storage wasn't used for video resolution, that was all audio. The same goes for their reunion concert. The video was a little better, but again, audio is what your there for! Now obviously, if you have Hi-Def Cable/Sat, then yes, the video quality is much better, almost on par with the audio, but the audio is still the virtue. And let's not go into concert dvd's on Bluray or HD DVD! Again, Audio! Even though it's in 1080P, the audio is paramount.

    Another example of why Audio is more important in Home Theater is because if you read this and other forums......Hi-Res audio is desired now. Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD MA is one of the main reasons HT enthusiast are trying to or have upgraded their AVR's. Having the 1080P is not enough! If the HiRes audio is available, then why not have it?! Get the full experience of High Def. I remember a while back, (early 2007) I was trying to drive home this same point. There were those on this forum who said that standard dolby digital and standard DTS was more than adequate and there would never be that much of a demand for DTHD or DTSHD/MA. This was articulated during a heated blu ray vs hd dvd discussion. I bet if you took a consensus now, that would not play at all!
    Just an opinion.
    All good points.
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    Let's put it this way Id, I can't hear out of my left ear but I can see out my left eye, so my choice might be slightly slanted right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldgibson76
    Rich,

    You are the perfect example for this thread! You mean to tell me that you purchased the RX-V3800 for HDMI switching only?! Hooking up those speakers and calibrating for sound quality was way down on your priority list!
    Now now. I never said this. Obviously sound is high on anyone's list who takes the time to join an audio forum. But what's TV without the video?
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