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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexmark3200
    Thanks Kel; as I posted to Terrence, I was not aware that Twister was not supposed to deliver the same gutteral bass as, say, The Haunting, so perhaps thats where my dissapointment lay; and as I told Terrence as well, I read that some folks preferred the Dolby Digital soundtrack on Twister over the DTS because it actually delivered more bass.
    When Terrence talks of the DD and DTS tracks on Twister and Lethal Weapon, is he saying that both films have DD and DTS tracks that were recorded at identical levels so they can be compared without touching the volume----that is, we can compare the Twister DD and DTS versions to each other and the Lethal weapon DD and DTS versions to each other?

    As for your reply about demoing the scene with the car under the bridge, yeah, thats a pretty intense scene....you can hear that wind whipping around you through the surround channels; its pretty cool. Still, no bass in the scene, or very little.
    What is your LFE setting for Dts? I know that my setting are +0 for DD and +10 for Dts. While the bass isn't extremely deep, there is a great deal of bass between 30-50hz in all channels during the more intense scenes of the movie. By no means should be bass be weak, so I would check my settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    What is your LFE setting for Dts? I know that my setting are +0 for DD and +10 for Dts. While the bass isn't extremely deep, there is a great deal of bass between 30-50hz in all channels during the more intense scenes of the movie. By no means should be bass be weak, so I would check my settings.
    Perhaps that is what I was experiencing --- not weak bass per se, just not deep bass, which I was looking forward to after reading reviews about this DVD that claimed the tornadoes took on deep, gutteral growls of their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexmark3200
    Perhaps that is what I was experiencing --- not weak bass per se, just not deep bass, which I was looking forward to after reading reviews about this DVD that claimed the tornadoes took on deep, gutteral growls of their own.
    Lex; I would follow his lordship's advice on that increase in bass that may be needed on the TWISTER DTS track. In my post, I could not remember whether it was plus or - l0db. It is plus l0db. Personally, this DTS-D.D. deal has created some "nuisances" that we have had to deal with. In my experiments, I am finding a few "things" going on between these two codecs and what may be an influence on them in imaging and bass. But that is another story for another day; MAYBE! KELSCI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelsci
    Lex; I would follow his lordship's advice on that increase in bass that may be needed on the TWISTER DTS track. In my post, I could not remember whether it was plus or - l0db. It is plus l0db. Personally, this DTS-D.D. deal has created some "nuisances" that we have had to deal with. In my experiments, I am finding a few "things" going on between these two codecs and what may be an influence on them in imaging and bass. But that is another story for another day; MAYBE! KELSCI.
    Kel,

    What do you mean "plus 10dB"? You mean you need to bump your sub's calibration plus 10 decibels when playing this DVD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexmark3200
    Kel,

    What do you mean "plus 10dB"? You mean you need to bump your sub's calibration plus 10 decibels when playing this DVD?
    Here is what you do, check the setting on your receiver(not the sub). There should be a button that allows you to set you LFE level for each format(Onkyo has this for a fact as I own one) Once you find the button that controls the LFE setting, set it according to the instructions that I gave in the above thread. If you feel the bass is loud enough, but not as deep as The Haunted, then I would say leave the setting as is. You are just not going to find anything much under 30hz on this soundtrack no matter which format you choose. I ran my 1/3 octave analyzer while playing both formats, Dts has more energy closer to 30hz than Dolby digital, while DD has more energy at around 50hz. This is not by much, but definately visible if not audible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Here is what you do, check the setting on your receiver(not the sub). There should be a button that allows you to set you LFE level for each format(Onkyo has this for a fact as I own one) Once you find the button that controls the LFE setting, set it according to the instructions that I gave in the above thread. If you feel the bass is loud enough, but not as deep as The Haunted, then I would say leave the setting as is. You are just not going to find anything much under 30hz on this soundtrack no matter which format you choose. I ran my 1/3 octave analyzer while playing both formats, Dts has more energy closer to 30hz than Dolby digital, while DD has more energy at around 50hz. This is not by much, but definately visible if not audible.
    Terrence,

    I have to respectfully tell you that I do not know where this bass adjustment is for the Onkyo receiver with regard to setting individual format levels; can you identify this feature for me on my TX SR600?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexmark3200
    Terrence,

    I have to respectfully tell you that I do not know where this bass adjustment is for the Onkyo receiver with regard to setting individual format levels; can you identify this feature for me on my TX SR600?
    On your remote, you should have a "CH SEL" button, which allows you to adjust the level for each of your speakers. Cycle through that until you get to the LFE or Subwoofer, and use the Level increase/decrease buttons.

    If you want to save your settings after you make changes to the speaker level, I think you have to push the "TEST" button and let it cycle through the test tones.

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