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    Good post.

    Well thought out, intellligently composed and filled with a lot of truisms.

    Now, what did you do with the real pixie?

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    You left out the part about plasma also being available in 1080p.

    Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    You left out the part about plasma also being available in 1080p.

    Just saying.

    This is outside the plasma being dead thing and all.
    This is about 720p being dead.
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    Basically this is a repeat of the situation a few years back.
    Plasma was extremely expensive, so they were selling "EDTV"
    plasma sets that were 480p.
    They were cheaper but not HD.
    This is not as clearcut a decision as it might seem, as HDTV was bought back then primarily for great DVD pics, there was little HD available, and DVD looked fine on a EDTV.
    Well, I don't know of anyone who didnt regret that purchase.
    A HDTV cost 700 bucks more, was a CRT RPTV, and it was six months before I saw any "real" HDTV on the sucker.
    But it was worth the hassle
    Now once again Plasma cuts the res of their displays in order to undercut a competitor.
    We learn from history that we learn nothing from history
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    This is outside the plasma being dead thing and all.
    This is about 720p being dead.
    Dead?! But.. but.... My projectors seem to work just fine.

    Yeah Pix, 1080p is better than 720p. No doubt. Especially when you get to the 100" sizes. There's a price vs performance thing going on though. When I bought my projectors 3 years ago, 1080p models were going for $10,000+. That was out of my budget. So I got 2, 720p models for $2k each (including screens, mounts & HD cables). If I had it to do over today, I'd go 1080p. There are models going for $2500 now.
    Someone buying a 42" screen and sitting 10' or more away may not see as big of a difference. Is there some? Yeah. Is it worth the extra cash? Only your wallet knows for sure.
    In a few years it may be very hard to find any 720 models on the market. Till then, they will still be very nice for the budget minded. And when everyone stops selling them, the ones already sold are not going to all drop dead overnight.
    Now, go slip in a BR movie and tell us how good it looks.
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    Man, talk about beating a dead horse. How many threads really need to be devoted to the 1080/720 and LCD/Plasma debate? I mean there really is very little to debate.

    All things equal 1080p is better than 720p, hands down. More resolution is always a good thing. It also costs more and this is an issue for some people.

    All things equal, plasma has a better picture than LCD, hands down. Contrast ratio, black levels and viewing angle are all superior in every way.

    Is there really anything else that needs to be said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zepman1
    Man, talk about beating a dead horse. How many threads really need to be devoted to the 1080/720 and LCD/Plasma debate? I mean there really is very little to debate.

    All things equal 1080p is better than 720p, hands down. More resoution is always a good thing. It also costs more and this is an issue for some people.

    All things equal, plasma has a better picture than LCD, hands down. Contrast ratio, black levels and viewing angle are all superior in every way.

    Is there really anything else that needs to be said?
    No, but....

    Well, you'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zepman1
    Man, talk about beating a dead horse. How many threads really need to be devoted to the 1080/720 and LCD/Plasma debate? I mean there really is very little to debate.

    All things equal 1080p is better than 720p, hands down. More resolution is always a good thing. It also costs more and this is an issue for some people.

    All things equal, plasma has a better picture than LCD, hands down. Contrast ratio, black levels and viewing angle are all superior in every way.

    Is there really anything else that needs to be said?

    Just one point, which is all I AM SAYING, REALLY.
    I know the mentality of those who frequent boards like this, because I have the same mentality.
    AND all of the guys buying into 720p, for whatever reason, to save cash, to get a bigger screen, they just dont want to wait...
    WELL, its gonna be nice at first, but eventually it will start to eat,
    first like a mosquito bite, then like the occasional wasp sting.
    Eventually it will be like a thousand termites going after pinochio.
    I KNOW this thing, have been there myself thousands of times.
    Just save yourself the trouble, regardless of LCD or PLASMA.
    GET a 1080P, just go ahead , reconize your inner demon that demands perfection, and save yourself a lot of trouble.
    SURE 720P will be around for awhile, and will do fine for some.
    But not YOU.
    YOU are not granny watching her "shows", granny didnt buy several thousand dollars worth of cables, speakers, etc, 720p wont make much diff watching Drew Carey on the price if right.
    But the near pristine copy of Chinatown that they showed on
    UHD the other night?
    Admit it, you DEMAND perfection, rationalize the purchase all you want, of plain ol 720p, yesterdays perfection.
    sooner or later, quite sheepish, you are gonna shamble down to the
    local pusher at the video store, and plunk down the cash.
    You know you will
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    Watching sports on my brothers Pioneer 5080 was perfect for me, since 1080p doesnt make a difference with hi-def cable broadcasts.

    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Just one point, which is all I AM SAYING, REALLY.
    I know the mentality of those who frequent boards like this, because I have the same mentality.
    AND all of the guys buying into 720p, for whatever reason, to save cash, to get a bigger screen, they just dont want to wait...
    WELL, its gonna be nice at first, but eventually it will start to eat,
    first like a mosquito bite, then like the occasional wasp sting.
    Eventually it will be like a thousand termites going after pinochio.
    I KNOW this thing, have been there myself thousands of times.
    Just save yourself the trouble, regardless of LCD or PLASMA.
    GET a 1080P, just go ahead , reconize your inner demon that demands perfection, and save yourself a lot of trouble.
    SURE 720P will be around for awhile, and will do fine for some.
    But not YOU.
    YOU are not granny watching her "shows", granny didnt buy several thousand dollars worth of cables, speakers, etc, 720p wont make much diff watching Drew Carey on the price if right.
    But the near pristine copy of Chinatown that they showed on
    UHD the other night?
    Admit it, you DEMAND perfection, rationalize the purchase all you want, of plain ol 720p, yesterdays perfection.
    sooner or later, quite sheepish, you are gonna shamble down to the
    local pusher at the video store, and plunk down the cash.
    You know you will

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    Quote Originally Posted by markw
    Well thought out, intellligently composed and filled with a lot of truisms.

    Now, what did you do with the real pixie?
    BURIED OUT BACK WITH THE "REAL" MARKW
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