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    Cool Think about whut you're doin man!

    Did you hear about the bigamist who got run over by a car?
    The autopsy showed he had also been poisoned.
    Seems one wife didn't know what the other was doing.
    And that seems to be whats happening with 1080p AND BLU RAY.
    I posted on another section that plasma was dead (which it is,
    BTW) and have gleeened some interesting info among all of the brickbats, insults , references to my ancestors, etc.
    Mainly that a lot of Plasma buyers are buying 720P.
    And then a lot come over HERE and talk about buying a Blu ray!
    WHATS GOING ON?
    Apparently they have bought into the "truism" that it "doesn't make much difference".
    Well, sorry to say this BUT IT DOES.
    For one thing, if you have 1080p then you also get 24fps,
    which eliminates 3/2 pulldown, completely doing away with artifacts
    associated with trying to show a 24fps movie on a device that is 60hz.
    And then there is deinterlacing.
    Aint no expert but its has to be better to just deinterlace 1080i to 1080p
    instead of deinterlacing it and then rescaling it to 720p.
    NOT to mention that 1080p has 340 more scan lines than 720p.
    Lets face it, most on this board are going to buy Blu players sooner
    or later, and yes they look fantastic on a 720p set.
    But they look simply amazing on a 1080p.
    Trust me, it does make a difference.
    So why buy a set that will be around awhile (even a short lived plasma will be around five to ten years) and "lock" yourself into 720p?
    I bought a 720p for valid reasons, it was still a 1080i world, and right after 1080p started becoming more prevalent, in other words I got "caught".
    Well, I have recently fixed that problem with a 1080p, and trust me, it was worth every penny, really.
    It will last until OLED becomes affordable.
    Just consider the Blu issue before you buy a set , let that figure into your considerations.
    A TV lasts a long time, really, and Blu IS JUST GETTING STARTED.
    Think of how much it will improve, look at how much DVD has improved.
    Do you really want to lock yourself into a resolution that will hobble your Blu player and keep you from getting the most outta it?
    When buying a set these days, consider one of the main
    sources of programming you will be using(at least for awhile)
    BLU RAY.
    A 1080p WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE, but it would be wise and do what Richard Pryor said to do in the movie "silver streak.
    PAY THE MAN
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    Good post.

    Well thought out, intellligently composed and filled with a lot of truisms.

    Now, what did you do with the real pixie?

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    You left out the part about plasma also being available in 1080p.

    Just saying.
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    Where did anyone in these forums say that blu-ray doesnt look any different on a 1080p set compared to a 720p set? I'm pretty sure we have all said that blu ray will benfit on a 1080p set, but obviously you pick and choose what you wanna read and twist things around to suit your agenda.

    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Did you hear about the bigamist who got run over by a car?
    The autopsy showed he had also been poisoned.
    Seems one wife didn't know what the other was doing.
    And that seems to be whats happening with 1080p AND BLU RAY.
    I posted on another section that plasma was dead (which it is,
    BTW) and have gleeened some interesting info among all of the brickbats, insults , references to my ancestors, etc.
    Mainly that a lot of Plasma buyers are buying 720P.
    And then a lot come over HERE and talk about buying a Blu ray!
    WHATS GOING ON?
    Apparently they have bought into the "truism" that it "doesn't make much difference".
    Well, sorry to say this BUT IT DOES.
    For one thing, if you have 1080p then you also get 24fps,
    which eliminates 3/2 pulldown, completely doing away with artifacts
    associated with trying to show a 24fps movie on a device that is 60hz.
    And then there is deinterlacing.
    Aint no expert but its has to be better to just deinterlace 1080i to 1080p
    instead of deinterlacing it and then rescaling it to 720p.
    NOT to mention that 1080p has 340 more scan lines than 720p.
    Lets face it, most on this board are going to buy Blu players sooner
    or later, and yes they look fantastic on a 720p set.
    But they look simply amazing on a 1080p.
    Trust me, it does make a difference.
    So why buy a set that will be around awhile (even a short lived plasma will be around five to ten years) and "lock" yourself into 720p?
    I bought a 720p for valid reasons, it was still a 1080i world, and right after 1080p started becoming more prevalent, in other words I got "caught".
    Well, I have recently fixed that problem with a 1080p, and trust me, it was worth every penny, really.
    It will last until OLED becomes affordable.
    Just consider the Blu issue before you buy a set , let that figure into your considerations.
    A TV lasts a long time, really, and Blu IS JUST GETTING STARTED.
    Think of how much it will improve, look at how much DVD has improved.
    Do you really want to lock yourself into a resolution that will hobble your Blu player and keep you from getting the most outta it?
    When buying a set these days, consider one of the main
    sources of programming you will be using(at least for awhile)
    BLU RAY.
    A 1080p WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE, but it would be wise and do what Richard Pryor said to do in the movie "silver streak.
    PAY THE MAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    For one thing, if you have 1080p then you also get 24fps,
    which eliminates 3/2 pulldown, completely doing away with artifacts associated with trying to show a 24fps movie on a device that is 60hz.
    Not necessarily. There are plenty of LCD and Plasma that are 1080p60hz and incapable of handling 24fps. Taking away 3/2 pulldown does not guarantee a artifact free viewing. Deinterlacing errors can creep in, and judder inherent in film can also present.


    And then there is deinterlacing.
    Aint no expert but its has to be better to just deinterlace 1080i to 1080p
    instead of deinterlacing it and then rescaling it to 720p.
    You are correct in theory, but on television smaller than 50" and at the typical viewing distances that most sit from the panel it might not even matter.

    NOT to mention that 1080p has 340 more scan lines than 720p.
    There are no scan lines on digital televisions Pix, its all pixels.

    Lets face it, most on this board are going to buy Blu players sooner
    or later, and yes they look fantastic on a 720p set.
    But they look simply amazing on a 1080p.
    Trust me, it does make a difference.
    So why buy a set that will be around awhile (even a short lived plasma will be around five to ten years) and "lock" yourself into 720p?
    I bought a 720p for valid reasons, it was still a 1080i world, and right after 1080p started becoming more prevalent, in other words I got "caught".
    Well, I have recently fixed that problem with a 1080p, and trust me, it was worth every penny, really.
    It will last until OLED becomes affordable.
    Just consider the Blu issue before you buy a set , let that figure into your considerations.
    A TV lasts a long time, really, and Blu IS JUST GETTING STARTED.
    Think of how much it will improve, look at how much DVD has improved.
    Do you really want to lock yourself into a resolution that will hobble your Blu player and keep you from getting the most outta it?
    When buying a set these days, consider one of the main
    sources of programming you will be using(at least for awhile)
    BLU RAY.
    A 1080p WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE, but it would be wise and do what Richard Pryor said to do in the movie "silver streak.
    PAY THE MAN
    I am not so sure anyone is hobbling bluray with a 720p display. As I have mention earlier, at the distance most folks set from the panel, and since most folks have bought panels smaller than 50", it really does not matter. Now that larger size panels are becoming more competitively priced, it may matter soon.
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    Not necessarily. There are plenty of LCD and Plasma that are 1080p60hz and incapable of handling 24fps. Taking away 3/2 pulldown does not guarantee a artifact free viewing. Deinterlacing errors can creep in, and judder inherent in film can also present.

    Older sets maybe, I havent seen any of the new ones that arent,
    and I looked at over two dozen on my last purchase.
    And 3/2 pulldown issues arent the only causes of artifacts, just the major one


    You are correct in theory, but on television smaller than 50" and at the typical viewing distances that most sit from the panel it might not even matter.
    I bought into this also, but after comparing two sets, one 720p and one 1080p, it does make a difference


    There are no scan lines on digital televisions Pix, its all pixels.
    True but human behaviour changes slowly, and people still refer to scan lines

    I am not so sure anyone is hobbling bluray with a 720p display. As I have mention earlier, at the distance most folks set from the panel, and since most folks have bought panels smaller than 50", it really does not matter. Now that larger size panels are becoming more competitively priced, it may matter soon.
    They are, and all I AM SAYING is that if you want the best outta your BLU you need 1080p.
    NOW IF a set was a short term purchase than sure you could get by with a 720p for awhile, especially if it had extreme highq, but that is not the case for most, for most its a long term purchase.
    And after living with 1080p for awhile Its my opinion (and only that) that
    1080p is worth the effort, even at the sacrifice of screen size.
    Its not a gimmick, or a fad, its for real, and it provides a really
    pleasant experience.
    AND the posters on this board, they are ALL PQ "crazy", you know they arent going to "settle" for less, even if the improvement is slight .
    Which will lead to some gut wrenching decisions down the road.
    A monitor is a major purchase, and the fact that we already have a 1080p format, with more to follow, means that it needs to be considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    You left out the part about plasma also being available in 1080p.

    Just saying.

    This is outside the plasma being dead thing and all.
    This is about 720p being dead.
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    Basically this is a repeat of the situation a few years back.
    Plasma was extremely expensive, so they were selling "EDTV"
    plasma sets that were 480p.
    They were cheaper but not HD.
    This is not as clearcut a decision as it might seem, as HDTV was bought back then primarily for great DVD pics, there was little HD available, and DVD looked fine on a EDTV.
    Well, I don't know of anyone who didnt regret that purchase.
    A HDTV cost 700 bucks more, was a CRT RPTV, and it was six months before I saw any "real" HDTV on the sucker.
    But it was worth the hassle
    Now once again Plasma cuts the res of their displays in order to undercut a competitor.
    We learn from history that we learn nothing from history
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    Quote Originally Posted by markw
    Well thought out, intellligently composed and filled with a lot of truisms.

    Now, what did you do with the real pixie?
    BURIED OUT BACK WITH THE "REAL" MARKW
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    This is outside the plasma being dead thing and all.
    This is about 720p being dead.
    Dead?! But.. but.... My projectors seem to work just fine.

    Yeah Pix, 1080p is better than 720p. No doubt. Especially when you get to the 100" sizes. There's a price vs performance thing going on though. When I bought my projectors 3 years ago, 1080p models were going for $10,000+. That was out of my budget. So I got 2, 720p models for $2k each (including screens, mounts & HD cables). If I had it to do over today, I'd go 1080p. There are models going for $2500 now.
    Someone buying a 42" screen and sitting 10' or more away may not see as big of a difference. Is there some? Yeah. Is it worth the extra cash? Only your wallet knows for sure.
    In a few years it may be very hard to find any 720 models on the market. Till then, they will still be very nice for the budget minded. And when everyone stops selling them, the ones already sold are not going to all drop dead overnight.
    Now, go slip in a BR movie and tell us how good it looks.
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    Man, talk about beating a dead horse. How many threads really need to be devoted to the 1080/720 and LCD/Plasma debate? I mean there really is very little to debate.

    All things equal 1080p is better than 720p, hands down. More resolution is always a good thing. It also costs more and this is an issue for some people.

    All things equal, plasma has a better picture than LCD, hands down. Contrast ratio, black levels and viewing angle are all superior in every way.

    Is there really anything else that needs to be said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zepman1
    Man, talk about beating a dead horse. How many threads really need to be devoted to the 1080/720 and LCD/Plasma debate? I mean there really is very little to debate.

    All things equal 1080p is better than 720p, hands down. More resoution is always a good thing. It also costs more and this is an issue for some people.

    All things equal, plasma has a better picture than LCD, hands down. Contrast ratio, black levels and viewing angle are all superior in every way.

    Is there really anything else that needs to be said?
    No, but....

    Well, you'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zepman1
    Man, talk about beating a dead horse. How many threads really need to be devoted to the 1080/720 and LCD/Plasma debate? I mean there really is very little to debate.

    All things equal 1080p is better than 720p, hands down. More resolution is always a good thing. It also costs more and this is an issue for some people.

    All things equal, plasma has a better picture than LCD, hands down. Contrast ratio, black levels and viewing angle are all superior in every way.

    Is there really anything else that needs to be said?

    Just one point, which is all I AM SAYING, REALLY.
    I know the mentality of those who frequent boards like this, because I have the same mentality.
    AND all of the guys buying into 720p, for whatever reason, to save cash, to get a bigger screen, they just dont want to wait...
    WELL, its gonna be nice at first, but eventually it will start to eat,
    first like a mosquito bite, then like the occasional wasp sting.
    Eventually it will be like a thousand termites going after pinochio.
    I KNOW this thing, have been there myself thousands of times.
    Just save yourself the trouble, regardless of LCD or PLASMA.
    GET a 1080P, just go ahead , reconize your inner demon that demands perfection, and save yourself a lot of trouble.
    SURE 720P will be around for awhile, and will do fine for some.
    But not YOU.
    YOU are not granny watching her "shows", granny didnt buy several thousand dollars worth of cables, speakers, etc, 720p wont make much diff watching Drew Carey on the price if right.
    But the near pristine copy of Chinatown that they showed on
    UHD the other night?
    Admit it, you DEMAND perfection, rationalize the purchase all you want, of plain ol 720p, yesterdays perfection.
    sooner or later, quite sheepish, you are gonna shamble down to the
    local pusher at the video store, and plunk down the cash.
    You know you will
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    Watching sports on my brothers Pioneer 5080 was perfect for me, since 1080p doesnt make a difference with hi-def cable broadcasts.

    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Just one point, which is all I AM SAYING, REALLY.
    I know the mentality of those who frequent boards like this, because I have the same mentality.
    AND all of the guys buying into 720p, for whatever reason, to save cash, to get a bigger screen, they just dont want to wait...
    WELL, its gonna be nice at first, but eventually it will start to eat,
    first like a mosquito bite, then like the occasional wasp sting.
    Eventually it will be like a thousand termites going after pinochio.
    I KNOW this thing, have been there myself thousands of times.
    Just save yourself the trouble, regardless of LCD or PLASMA.
    GET a 1080P, just go ahead , reconize your inner demon that demands perfection, and save yourself a lot of trouble.
    SURE 720P will be around for awhile, and will do fine for some.
    But not YOU.
    YOU are not granny watching her "shows", granny didnt buy several thousand dollars worth of cables, speakers, etc, 720p wont make much diff watching Drew Carey on the price if right.
    But the near pristine copy of Chinatown that they showed on
    UHD the other night?
    Admit it, you DEMAND perfection, rationalize the purchase all you want, of plain ol 720p, yesterdays perfection.
    sooner or later, quite sheepish, you are gonna shamble down to the
    local pusher at the video store, and plunk down the cash.
    You know you will

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    A year & 1/2 ago when I bought my TV, I had the choice of 720 or 1080. My buying habits lean towards bang-for-the-buck and futureproofing, which I feel is what I got with my Mits 1080p DLP. Changing bulbs adds expense for sure, but if all I have to replace over the next ten years is a bulb or two, thats fine with me. Beats replacing other, more expensive technologies every 3 - 5 years. And even if I have to replace the light engine once or twice over that span of time, I still think I've come out ahead.

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    Future proofing is a big thing for me too. I will be in the market for a new tv soon, and it will be 1080p without a doubt. The only question is LCD, plasma, or front projector... But, to each their own.

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    damn! I have to replace a bulb about once every 18-24 months on my DLP
    And YES i turned off torch mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by zepman1
    Future proofing is a big thing for me too. I will be in the market for a new tv soon, and it will be 1080p without a doubt. The only question is LCD, plasma, or front projector... But, to each their own.
    They all have their pluses and minuses.

    LCD is the easiest. Brightest, uses the least energy, has the least upkeep (no bulbs to replace).
    Plasma has the best picture of the 3. Best color, best black level. Weighs more, has some glare (but not as bad as older models).
    Projectors get you the biggest picture for the buck. You can have a 100"+ 1080p picture for under $2500. You'll need to control the lighting though. The bulbs burn out every 2000 to 3000 hours of use, and cost between $200 & $400 depending on model & how good you are at shopping. The projectors I bought came with extra bulbs. Three years of viewing A LOT of TV and I still have 1 spare.
    720p models can be found for $500 if you look hard enough.
    A fourth choice is DLP. Not as flat as the other 3, but not as bad as CRT. You can get a bigger screen for the buck than LCD or plasma (but not as big as projectors) It also needs the bulbs changed. About the same story as projectors, but you don't need to control the lighting as much.
    A lot of +++ and --- all around. What means the most to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    They all have their pluses and minuses.

    LCD is the easiest. Brightest, uses the least energy, has the least upkeep (no bulbs to replace).
    Plasma has the best picture of the 3. Best color, best black level. Weighs more, has some glare (but not as bad as older models).
    Projectors get you the biggest picture for the buck. You can have a 100"+ 1080p picture for under $2500. You'll need to control the lighting though. The bulbs burn out every 2000 to 3000 hours of use, and cost between $200 & $400 depending on model & how good you are at shopping. The projectors I bought came with extra bulbs. Three years of viewing A LOT of TV and I still have 1 spare.
    720p models can be found for $500 if you look hard enough.
    A fourth choice is DLP. Not as flat as the other 3, but not as bad as CRT. You can get a bigger screen for the buck than LCD or plasma (but not as big as projectors) It also needs the bulbs changed. About the same story as projectors, but you don't need to control the lighting as much.
    A lot of +++ and --- all around. What means the most to you?
    On that note, I am hijacking this thread.
    GM, how many hours do you get out of a bulb in your projector? My room is extremely well light controlled, as in black and dark in broad daylight unless I bring the lights up a bit. On my projector, I have my brightness/contrast settings turned down, not making too big an image, projector's not too far back etc. Ran DVE on it to get it as good as I could.
    I got 1 free replacement bulb with mine, and purchased another. I figured I'd get a year out of it, between my wife and I we get about 100 hrs per month. If I can get more than a year that'd be a bonus. Just curious as to what I can expect.
    I kinda figured the 2000-3000 hour claim was a manufacturer being extremely generous like, quoting gas mileage in a new car....maybe not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    On that note, I am hijacking this thread.
    GM, how many hours do you get out of a bulb in your projector? My room is extremely well light controlled, as in black and dark in broad daylight unless I bring the lights up a bit. On my projector, I have my brightness/contrast settings turned down, not making too big an image, projector's not too far back etc. Ran DVE on it to get it as good as I could.
    I got 1 free replacement bulb with mine, and purchased another. I figured I'd get a year out of it, between my wife and I we get about 100 hrs per month. If I can get more than a year that'd be a bonus. Just curious as to what I can expect.
    I got about 2700 hours out of the first bulb. But that projector is set up at the edge of it's limits. I don't keep that one in econo mode because it needs the extra light to fill the big grey screen in that room. The one in the bedroom sits closer to the white 92" screen. It is in econo mode and has yet to show signs of dimming at almost 2500 hours. My bulbs are rated at 3000 hours in econo mode. Your Epson says about the same thing about your bulb. 2500 in normal mode, 3000 in eco-mode. You should get 2-3 years out of a bulb at the 100hrs/month rate. Do you use the eco-mode? You should be close enough to have it still be plenty bright for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    I got about 2700 hours out of the first bulb. But that projector is set up at the edge of it's limits. I don't keep that one in econo mode because it needs the extra light to fill the big grey screen in that room. The one in the bedroom sits closer to the white 92" screen. It is in econo mode and has yet to show signs of dimming at almost 2500 hours. My bulbs are rated at 3000 hours in econo mode. Your Epson says about the same thing about your bulb. 2500 in normal mode, 3000 in eco-mode. You should get 2-3 years out of a bulb at the 100hrs/month rate. Do you use the eco-mode? You should be close enough to have it still be plenty bright for you.
    Hmmm, there's no "eco-mode" on my product model, is that just projector-speak?

    I have all the brightness settings on low, color mode set to Theatre 2 (dark, light controlled rooms for optimal blacks) my color temp is 6500K, and the contrast and and brightness were cranked down from Torch mode.

    Oh and I have a "Brightness Control" setting set to low, if that's what you mean. The manual states:
    "This setting controls the light output from the projector. On HIGH the lamp uses 170 W of power, on LOW the lamp uses 135 watts."

    Is that what you're referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    Hmmm, there's no "eco-mode" on my product model, is that just projector-speak?

    I have all the brightness settings on low, color mode set to Theatre 2 (dark, light controlled rooms for optimal blacks) my color temp is 6500K, and the contrast and and brightness were cranked down from Torch mode.

    Oh and I have a "Brightness Control" setting set to low, if that's what you mean. The manual states:
    "This setting controls the light output from the projector. On HIGH the lamp uses 170 W of power, on LOW the lamp uses 135 watts."

    Is that what you're referring to?

    Is this the model you have? Maybe that's just a term that this site uses. http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epso...ma_1080_UB.htm

    Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 1080 UB Projector Specifications
    MSRP (USD) : $2,799
    Brightness (Lumens) : 1600 ANSI
    Contrast (Full On/Off) : 50000:1
    Variable Iris: Yes
    High Brightness:
    ANSI Lumens: **
    Contrast Ratio: 4000:1
    High Contrast:
    ANSI Lumens: **
    Contrast Ratio: 50000:1
    Audible Noise: 32.0 dB
    Eco-Mode: 24.0 dB
    Weight: 12.0 lbs
    Size (inches) (HxWxD) : 4.8 x 12.2 x 15.6
    Std. Lens: Focus:
    Manual
    Zoom: Manual, 2.10:1
    Throw Dist (feet) : 8.3 - 14.8
    Image Size (inches) : 40.0 - 150.0
    Optional Lenses: No
    Digital Zoom: **
    Digital Keystone: No
    Lens Shift: Horz & Vert
    Networking: Wired:
    No
    Wireless: No
    Warranty: 2 Years
    Performance:
    H-Sync Range: **
    V-Sync Range: **
    Compatibility:
    HDTV: 720p, 1080i, 1080p/60
    1080p/24
    EDTV/480p: Yes
    SDTV/480i: Yes
    Component Video: Yes
    Video: Yes
    Digital Input: HDMI (HDCP)
    Computers: Yes
    Display: Type:
    0.7" 3LCD
    Native: 1920x1080 Pixels
    Maximum: 1920x1080 Pixels
    Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (HD)
    Lamp: Type:
    170W E-TORL
    Life: 2500 hours
    Eco-Mode Life: 3000 hours
    Quantity: 1
    Speakers: No
    Max Power: **
    Voltage: 100V - 240V
    FCC Class: B
    Special: RS232 Port

    Status: Shipping
    First Ship: Dec 2007
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    I was flipping through the manual. It doesn't seem to say anything about Eco-mode or lamp settings. It only seems to have brightness settings with a mention of how it can extend lamp life if set low.
    By the way, even with the new projectors coming out this year, this one still tops my wish list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    I was flipping through the manual. It doesn't seem to say anything about Eco-mode or lamp settings. It only seems to have brightness settings with a mention of how it can extend lamp life if set low.
    By the way, even with the new projectors coming out this year, this one still tops my wish list.
    Yeah, that's her...
    A quick email to another owner on another forum confirmed what you're saying. The low brightness setting is the eco-mode.

    I got to visit a (I don't want to call him friend) person's place last week who had the new Optoma HD81-LV. I don't mind saying it was a nice projector overall, the picture on his 106" screen was maybe a bit better than what I have...it certainly didn't blow me away, but I wasn't exactly doing a side by side either.
    He paid over $6000, so at maybe less than 1/3 the price I'm not complaining.
    I can honestly say that I don't have the trained eye or bother to notice any of its deficiencies and I'm very happy with the purchase.

    Wow if I can get 2 years out of a bulb I'm set....

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    You should get 2+ years with no problem. I like that model very much. Let me know if you ever need parts for it. We can get Epson parts at a good price. That lamp costs us $260.
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