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    N. Abstentia and your new room...

    N. Abstentia,

    I have a few questions about your wonderful new HT room.

    1) What kind of paint did you use for the screen?
    2) Why did you choose a projector over LCD, plasma, etc...?
    3) Is the picture just as good?
    4) Will it work for normal TV?
    5) What cables did you have to run to the ceiling?
    6) How far do you have it from the screen?
    7a&b) Do you know how long the lamps last & cost to replace?

    Sorry for all the questions.
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    SUP! I appreciate the questions actually

    1) I used flat grey. Seriously. The kind of paint you can get anywhere. I got mine at Lowes, it's just a light grey. The results are spectacular.

    2) I've always wanted a projector, and LCD/Plasma was never really an option because of price. I couldn't justify spending $6000 for a 60" plasma when I could get over 120" with a projector for $1200...and that's including the screen.

    3) I think 'just as good' is subjective. I'm sure LCD/Plasma would be brighter and crisper, but it's also much smaller and costs 5 times as much. For a living room LCD/Plasma might be a good choice (especially if you have a lot of light in the room) but for a theater room a projector is the way to go.

    4) Yep, works perfectly! Watching Nascar and football in HD on a 125" screen is quite an experience. Of course it works great for non-HD stuff also.

    5) I ran a component, s-video, and DVI cable. Right now just using component.

    6) It's 18 feet from the screen.

    7) I think the lamps are good for 3000 hours and are around $250 to replace. It probably varies depending on the projector. 3000 hours is close to having the projector on for 8 hours a day every day for an entire year, so bulbs should last close to 2 years for me.

    Let me know if there are more questions or you need specific pictures of something!

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    Did you use any sound absorbing matl for the walls or in the room?

    If so, what matl and how much did it cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.J.
    Did you use any sound absorbing matl for the walls or in the room?

    If so, what matl and how much did it cost?
    No sound treatments yet, but I'll probaby get a few of those acoustic tiles eventually just to break up the walls.

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    Cool, thanks.

    So you ran the coax from the cable company to your HT sound system and then the S-video and DVI to the projector? Um what's a DVI cable? Right now I use component video and an optical sound cable to the TV.

    Building a house and I'd like to have the cables run before the walls are finished. At this point they haven't even cleared the lot of trees yet. Still lots of time for me to think up more questions. Maybe the next one I ask should be, did I leave anything out that I should be asking?

    I really like the idea of a projector. out of the way with a big (huge) screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Cool, thanks.

    So you ran the coax from the cable company to your HT sound system and then the S-video and DVI to the projector? Um what's a DVI cable? Right now I use component video and an optical sound cable to the TV.
    Yeah kind of but I have DirecTV instead of cable. It goes to the Tivo receiver which has the optical audio output and of course the video outputs. All the components to go the A/V receiver then the video cable goes from the receiver to the projector.

    DVI is digital video interface which is nice because unlike component, it does not convert the digital video to analog. However I don't have anything with a DVI output! I just ran the cable for future use since the projector has a DVI input. I also thought about running HDMI but I figured by the time I replace this projector, HDMI would be obsolete anyway. It'll be time to drop another cable regardless.

    Best advice I can give on cables is to install anything you think you might possibly need.

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    Thanks,
    Did your Optoma H31 DLP show up yet?
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    Oh yeah, I've had the projector for a couple of months now. I had it set up in my storage shed while testing screen paints

    I update my in-progress website (see below) whenever there's a major development..there's pictures of the screen, screen shots, and the cables which you asked about.

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    Hi Robert. Good to hear from you. You need to come around more often, that goes for that darn Nick too. It is the only way to keep Sir TT in line as he fly off the handle once in a while..LOL

    I miss Adam too. He went from being the most active member to almost non existence. Same with Woodman

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    robert..if you need help posting those pictures that prove your point, let me know. It's pretty basic but I'll help you do it. You do have these pictures you keep talking about...right? Surely you wouldn't be talking so much without backup......right? We all need to see how much better a 480p DVD is through a 1080i display...seriously now, I want to see what all I'm missing by not viewing a native 480 progressive source through a 1080 interlaced display.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    robert..if you need help posting those pictures that prove your point, let me know. You do have these pictures you keep talking about...right? Surely you wouldn't be talking so much without backup......right?
    I never said I have pictures. I never talked about having pictures. Show me ANY POST where I said I had pictures to post.
    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    Again, unless you are posting screen shots of a 480p DVD being displayed at both 480p and 1080i you have no use here.
    There is NOT SUCH THING AS A 480P DVD. ALL DVD is 480i. What part of this do you not understand? A Progressive-Scan DVD Player can process the 480i signal for display at 480p, but not at 1080i. Dude, you are REALLY mixed up!!!
    I don't know why you keep requesting for me to post pics (720p or 1080i vs 480p). Anybody with even the most basic knowledge of 720p or 1080i knows it's superiority to 480p. 720p & 1080i are the "Holy Grail" of PQ (at least for today!). And their superiority over 480p is undisputed in the realms of the videophile community.

    I have told you, Smokey has told you, and Terrence has also tried to explain this to you, but you still don't understand. I give up.

    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    I did watch a 480p SOURCE through a 480p display (many many many displays actually).
    What 480p SOURCE did you watch? When are you going to share this 480p SOURCE material you are talking about? As it has been explained to you BY SEVERAL PEOPLE, there is NO SUCH THING AS 480P SOURCE.

    Face it, you don't know what you are talking about! Listening to you is like watching a train wreck in slow motion....frighting, and horrible, but still I can't take my eyes off it....

    I guess I should ask now, before you repond with another comment that has no meaning. Are you ok? I mean, do you have any learning disabilities you would like to share at this time? Maybe you were dropped on your head as a baby or something? No offense intended, I just feel like I'm having a discussion with a "slow-learner" or someone with a learning disability. If that is the case, I apologize for repeating myself in response to your comments, and for confusing you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    ALL DVD is 480i. A Progressive-Scan DVD Player can process the 480i signal for display at 480p, but not at 1080i.
    Robert
    ...and that's why 1080i was ZERO improvement in my (and most everyone else's) eyes. If DVD was 1080i then displaying it at 1080i would be better...BUT IT'S NOT!

    Thanks for proving my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    ...and that's why 1080i was ZERO improvement in my (and most everyone else's) eyes. .
    You were not watching 1080i. If you ever view 1080i you will see a marked improvement over 480.
    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    If DVD was 1080i then displaying it at 1080i would be better...BUT IT'S NOT!
    By golly, seems as if you finally got it! Congratulations!

    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    Thanks for proving my point.
    You didn't need me to prove your point. You did that all by yourself........
    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    Well to be honest I really don't know much about resolutions and 480 and 1080 and what not..........(editors comment: That statment pretty much says it all, but you prove that point over & over....read on.)

    ....what's the advantage of a 1080i projector? What is the native resolution of a DVD?..(editors comment: You proved you don't know or understand, but still claim 480p's superiority!.)

    .....Yeah like I said I'm no expert by any means, but everything I've read says that 480p is better than anything i...or interlaced...(editors comment: Admission that you don't know or understand, wow, guess you should have stuck with "I really don't know much about resolutions and 480 and 1080".)

    ....even though 1080i has more scan lines, it still suffers from interlacing which is why 480p is preferred over 1080i. ..(editors comment: This is when you REALLY start proving your point that you don't know or understand what you are talking about.)

    All I know is this..after demoing 1080i and 480p I preferred 480p because 1080i still suffers from interlacing...(editors comment: further proof of ignorance regarding the subject matter.)

    I guess I just don't understand scaling.....(editors comment: you have proved that, and you would have done yourself a HUGE favor if you would have just left it at that.)

    I did watch a 480p SOURCE through a 480p display (many many many displays actually). (editors comment: This shows you don't understand there is no such thing as 480p SOURCE!)

    As I've said time and time again, my 480p source was always a progressive scan DVD player.(editors comment: Again proof that you don't understand there is no such thing as 480p SOURCE material!)

    ...play a DVD on your system and post pictures of the difference in 480p and 1080i..(editors comment: Proof you don't understand that a DVD is 480i and not 1080i.)

    We want to see this 'major difference' between 480p and 1080i you keep talking about. ..(editors comment: still claiming the superiority of 480p over 1080i.)

    I really don't need advice from some 28 post noob......(editors comment: guess you should have done a little research and find that I have been here a loooong time. Of course research is not one of your "strong-points")

    ...and that's why 1080i was ZERO improvement in my (and most everyone else's) eyes.(editors comment: still proving your point that 480p is superior to 1080i...you may need to get back on your "meds", because you must be hallucinating.)
    You have proved your point all by yourself....over & over again. You didn't need my help in proving your point. The point you have proved is you don't know what your talking about, so......just leave it alone before you look even more foolish & ignorant than you already look!

    btw...I'm still waiting to know what 480p SOURCE DVD you viewed........lol!
    Robert
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    Projector: JVC DLA-SX21U (LCOS 1.5m Pixel)
    Lens: Panamorph PSO-SX21
    Screen: 133" 16:9
    AVR: Denon (Flagship) 5800
    LRC-Mains: Definitive Technology (Flagship) BP3000-TL
    Surrounds: Atlantic Technology (Flush-Mount) System 20eSR
    LFE-Subwoofer: Sunfire True Subwoofer
    HD Satellite / DVR: VIP DVR622 Receiver (30+ Hrs of HD)
    HD VCR: JVC SR-VD400US Pro D-VHS (True 1080i transmission via Component)

    Dedicated Home Theater Specs & Pics

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