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    Quote Originally Posted by f0rge
    if you think they didnt drop/throw/stand on that box 12 times before it showed up at your door then you're living in a fantasy world.

    shipping companies are notoriously terrible for their negligence.
    I don't think that was very reasuring to rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by audio amateur
    I don't think that was very reasuring to rich

    NOT REASURRING , but probably true.
    Thanks for the info GM, but I have never deleted a post before, how is it done here?

    AND RICH, the reason your display goes off in pure audio is to limit possible interferrence with the sound.
    mine does the same thing (has a cool blue light also) and the video and flouresecent
    display goes off, the signal path is straight through the amps .
    This is an audio purist thing. Don't know if it helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Oh man, that sucks so much. I know how it feels to get your hopes up for something. The anticipation builds. You're about to get the big payoff, and the boat sinks!
    My first response to this would be... Yup! Took the wind right outta my sails! But I'm consoled in the fact that I was watching him the whole time he was shuffling boxes in back of the van (no, it wasn't a white van), moving mine, which I could already see was open, to the back of the van and then without any regard to other people's property just dump it right on the street. Catching him in a lie was actually a thrill. Ego booster ya know?

    Someone told me this morning that I should've marked the Yamaha box with something to indicate it was dropped and I probably should have. I'm going to call 6ave again to get clarrification on the next receiver's ship date. A good thing about Amazon is that they'll ship replacements even before they get the defective or damaged package back which is a good way to know that you're not just getting the same product re-boxed and re-shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    Bookmarked!!! Thanks GM.

    I'm afraid to ask this question, and I know I could probably find the answer in the manuel, but can someone tell me what the difference is between "Straight" mode and "Direct Stereo" mode? When I choose Direct Stereo, the display dims so I think that means circutry (digital?) not needed is shut down, correct?
    g'day, "straight" function is like an auto sound detector, if the source is 5.1 then it will output 5.1, if it is stereo it will output stereo "direct" will do as GMichael says but also disconnect the video output from amp to tv. hope i have helped a little. enjoy!

    cheers dazza

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    Makes things much clearer, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Thanks for the info GM, but I have never deleted a post before, how is it done here?

    Just go to the post in question, hit the edit button that is next to the quote button. Click on delete. Confirm that yes, you really do want to delete it. Then save or, something like that.
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    if i may ask an obviously stupid question. i have always just used the YPAO feature and left it at whatever it recommended. but everyone is talking about manual setup, is there a certain measurement i should be aiming for. and if so do i use the test tone to measure it?

    sorry for asking this dumb question on your thread "rich", it has probably lowered the reputation of the thread haha

    cheers: dazza

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    Quote Originally Posted by diggity
    if i may ask an obviously stupid question. i have always just used the YPAO feature and left it at whatever it recommended. but everyone is talking about manual setup, is there a certain measurement i should be aiming for. and if so do i use the test tone to measure it?

    sorry for asking this dumb question on your thread "rich", it has probably lowered the reputation of the thread haha

    cheers: dazza
    I think that the YPAO does a very good job on everything except the EQ. You should be able to go into the manual settings and put that back to flat to see if you like that better. To customize your EQ yourself you would need a test CD (puts out tones at specific frequencies) and a Db test meter to check the volume levels of each frequency. Then you would know what frequencies to cut or boost (never boost more than a couple db though) with the EQ.
    Caution: Test tones above 2k htz at 90db can blow out your tweeters!
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    cool, thanx for that mate i shall look into that and head that last warning, could be important. i owe ya a beer or whatever it is you drink

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    Quote Originally Posted by diggity
    cool, thanx for that mate i shall look into that and head that last warning, could be important. i owe ya a beer or whatever it is you drink

    cheers: dazza
    Beer is good. Coffee is better.
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    hmmm coffee eh?, i suppose i could add kahlua to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by diggity
    sorry for asking this dumb question on your thread "rich", it has probably lowered the reputation of the thread haha

    cheers: dazza
    The way I trash threads! Don't even give it a second thought.

    I plan on using the YPAO just the way GM described how to use it here:

    Quote Originally Posted by GM
    What worked good for me was to run the Auto-Set-Up and them save that into a memory slot before you make any changes. Then if you end up not liking your tweaks you have something to go back to without having to keep running the ASU over and over again. The beeps and other sounds can become annoying after awhile.
    I saved the original set-up in slot 6. Made tweaks and then saved in 5. More tweaks and saved in 4. I ended up with one set-up for movies saved in slot 1 and the one I use for TV in slot 2. For music I just hit Straight mode. Slot 3 is my work in progress. I'm always changing things and saving it their till I find something I like better before I move it to 1 or 2.
    The problem with my room has been with these dreaded "room modes" (I loathe that term ) so after I get my acoustic panels hung I'll run the room EQ and see how it sounds. Then make any necessary tweaks afterwards.
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    Beer is good. Coffee is better.
    Yeah, okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diggity
    hmmm coffee eh?, i suppose i could add kahlua to that
    Most people (who do any adding to coffe) add Bailey's. But I add Kahlua as you suggested. Also, I add a little coconut rum.

    Yes Rich, this is better than beer. To me at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Most people (who do any adding to coffe) add Bailey's. But I add Kahlua as you suggested. Also, I add a little coconut rum.

    Yes Rich, this is better than beer. To me at least.
    best coffee i've ever made happened when i ran out of bailey's and had to improvise, added some irish cream sweetener and some crown royal.

    had a bit of a kick but it helped keep me warm
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    Quote Originally Posted by f0rge
    best coffee i've ever made happened when i ran out of bailey's and had to improvise, added some irish cream sweetener and some crown royal.

    had a bit of a kick but it helped keep me warm
    I am also a fan of Crown Royal. Never tried it in coffee though. At least, not yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    I am also a fan of Crown Royal

    Now we're talkin'. I don't drink very much but when I do it's defiantly CR.
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    Question problems with Onkyo?

    Quote Originally Posted by L.J.
    And I take this is also based on the reports of 2 people.

    I've used auto setup from Onkyo, Denon & Yamaha. Never had a problem with any of them and distances and levels have always been spot on(except for the sub of course). No one is expecting a miracle but they do give you a starting point....especially if your new to setting a system up.

    Give Rich a break and let him enjoy his new toy.

    BTW, just because you had good luck with Integra, it doesn't mean they don't have issues as well. The current line of Integra is plagued with problems just like Onkyo is. I had HDMI problems with Elite as well. Yamaha was the only problem free units I auditioned.
    Can you please explain the problems Onkyo is having with their current line of a/v receivers? I'm trying to decide between the yamaha 3800 and onkyo nr-905. Any info would really help. thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude65
    Can you please explain the problems Onkyo is having with their current line of a/v receivers? I'm trying to decide between the yamaha 3800 and onkyo nr-905. Any info would really help. thanks!!
    Can't speak to the "current line" but my Integra is three years old and no problems
    so far. nada. Zip
    A friend has a 500 or so onkyo, a year or two old that I set up for him.
    He loves it (but not the ypao feature)
    Problems? Nada. Zip.
    Some have talked about a "popping" when inputs are changed, this is probably switch noise, but I DONT KNOW FOR SURE.
    I can only attest to what I know.
    And I really like my Integra. A lot.
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    Onkyo doesn't have YPAO. Only Yamaha. Onkyo/Integra use the built in (and highly acclaimed) Audyssey room calibrator.

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    did you ever get this thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by f0rge
    did you ever get this thing?
    I almost forgot what I bought...

    I just checked the return tracker and the first one is on the truck for delivery to 6ave's warehouse. I may just request a faster shipping method for #2 so I can be sure I've got it by next weekend. Nevertheless, I indicated to 6ave CS that I want this one held at the depot and I'll pick it up myself on my way home from work (No telling whether or not the gorilla got retrained ).

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    An-ti-ci-pa-ya-tion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    An-ti-ci-pa-ya-tion.
    Yeah, and you want to know why I'm hoping I've got it by the weekend? I was up in the attic early yesterday morning rerouting the FIOS video splitter and coax and gathering all the other cables for the drop down the hole where the A/V equipment will be placed. That means I no longer have FIOS on the wall where the TV sits; only OTA which will be fine when all is said and done. So this week I'll only be able to watch the OTA channels. Not only did I do that, but I also (I was on a roll!) I disconnected all of my equipment in the audio rack in "an-ti-ci-pa-ya-tion" of receipt of #2. SO, I can't watch DVD's, listen to music, and I only have the TV speakers until I'm back up and running.

    Anticipation or blind ambition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    Yeah, and you want to know why I'm hoping I've got it by the weekend? I was up in the attic early yesterday morning rerouting the FIOS video splitter and coax and gathering all the other cables for the drop down the hole where the A/V equipment will be placed. That means I no longer have FIOS on the wall where the TV sits; only OTA which will be fine when all is said and done. So this week I'll only be able to watch the OTA channels. Not only did I do that, but I also (I was on a roll!) I disconnected all of my equipment in the audio rack in "an-ti-ci-pa-ya-tion" of receipt of #2. SO, I can't watch DVD's, listen to music, and I only have the TV speakers until I'm back up and running.

    Anticipation or blind ambition?
    Dang, How are you living? No music? No system? Just shoot me now. SHOOT ME NOW!
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    MP3's on my computer. :barf:

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