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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    He never said that he knew them before he started working at the place did he?
    You're going around in circles.

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    We have discussed this before.
    And I have no idea why you continue to state the simplistic guideline. There isn't a cinema anywhere that compromises its sound quality in that way. THX offers their opinion of a reasonable compromise that the general public will accept. Does there continue to be any part of that you don't understand?



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    Not doing your homework for you.
    We'll reserve judgement on your claim to when it is substantiated.


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    So what. Just pointing out that there is no problem with putting a center speaker under a television screen.
    You do not hear image (in)coherence the way I do.

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    And they get that product when it leaves our studio. What you do with it afterwards is another story altogether.
    We can improve it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat View Post
    You're going around in circles.
    So are you, so what's the point.


    And I have no idea why you continue to state the simplistic guideline. There isn't a cinema anywhere that compromises its sound quality in that way. THX offers their opinion of a reasonable compromise that the general public will accept. Does there continue to be any part of that you don't understand?
    Since you have not read SMPTE standards, nor THX guidlines for hometheaters, then this statement is a needless air sandwich. Next....




    We'll reserve judgement on your claim to when it is substantiated.
    Who gives a damn about YOUR judgement, I don't.



    You do not hear image (in)coherence the way I do.
    Thank goodness.


    We can improve it!

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    You haven't so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    So are you, so what's the point.
    Once again, we'll reserve judgement on your assertions when you are able to substantiate them.

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    Since you have not read SMPTE standards, nor THX guidlines for hometheaters
    Sorry, bad assumption. Not that you recognized it, but I quoted the former in #59. I've previously linked to pictures from the latter showing proper location of front speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat View Post
    Once again, we'll reserve judgement on your assertions when you are able to substantiate them.
    Ralph, you must know by now I don't give a damn about your judgement. It means absolutely nothing to me.


    Sorry, bad assumption. Not that you recognized it, but I quoted the former in #59. I've previously linked to pictures from the latter showing proper location of front speakers.

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    Yet none of it apples to hometheaters. So, when are you going to read THX recommendations which actually apply to hometheaters? Ah, never mind. I don't think it is even important at this juncture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    Yet none of it apples to hometheaters. So, when are you going to read THX recommendations which actually apply to hometheaters?
    I find it strange that you don't seem to understand that ideal speaker radiation and coherence is independent of locale. Cinemas are set up for the best approach and most home theaters are not. Period.

    I guess I'm surprised you don't seek ways to bridge the gap. You continually quote a compromised standard and not worry about the results. Apparently, it isn't important enough to you. Ok!

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat View Post
    I find it strange that you don't seem to understand that ideal speaker radiation and coherence is independent of locale. Cinemas are set up for the best approach and most home theaters are not. Period.
    Wrong Ralph. Cinemas are set up for the best approach to movie theaters, not to the home. THX has set the standards for best approach for hometheaters. The studio I work for does seperate mixes for both environments, and playing back the HT mix in a cinema will not work, and there are documented issues on why cinema mixes have trouble in smaller rooms.

    I guess I'm surprised you don't seek ways to bridge the gap. You continually quote a compromised standard and not worry about the results. Apparently, it isn't important enough to you. Ok!

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    Ralph, you are becoming the father of assumptions. Keep up old man.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    THX has set the standards for best approach for hometheaters.
    Yes, they have. Let's review the recommendations, shall we? Read this.

    "Center Channel Speaker (C): Place the Center channel speaker either above or below the display. Then, aim the speaker either up or down to point directly at the listener. If you have a perforated projection screen, center this speaker both horizontally and vertically behind the screen."

    Is there any part of the last sentence you don't understand - especially since you were completely unaware of it?


    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    The studio I work for does seperate mixes for both environments, and playing back the HT mix in a cinema will not work, and there are documented issues on why cinema mixes have trouble in smaller rooms.
    And none of those issues relate to symmetric positioning of the center relative to the fronts.


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    Ralph, you are becoming the father of assumptions. Keep up old man.....
    I stand corrected. Clearly, audio quality is of secondary interest to you.

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