Oppo's New Blu Ray Released Today

[Jim Clark]

I have been very happy with the performance of my Oppo BDP 83. It may be in my head but for now I'm convinced that the upscaling is far superior to that of my 981. I do have a nagging feeling that I paid way the heck too much for this thing especially since I have no interest or desire to get into DVD-A or SACD. My Jolida 100A CDP sounds a lot better to me than the Oppo so it's basically a BDP and nothing else for me. Maybe if it had a phono stage...j/k

I think Worf is right, they saved money in the wrong place. I have to believe that anyone who wanted an SACD player, already had an SACD player and it was probably superior to the Oppo's performance in that regard. Oh well, it's just money, right?

jc

[BallinWithNash]

The Panny or Samsung can not do SACD or DVD-A.

So for a 100$ more that is the only thing I get more? plus I don't get networking capabilities with the Oppo.

[blackraven]

I have been very happy with the performance of my Oppo BDP 83. It may be in my head but for now I'm convinced that the upscaling is far superior to that of my 981. I do have a nagging feeling that I paid way the heck too much for this thing especially since I have no interest or desire to get into DVD-A or SACD. My Jolida 100A CDP sounds a lot better to me than the Oppo so it's basically a BDP and nothing else for me. Maybe if it had a phono stage...j/k

I think Worf is right, they saved money in the wrong place. I have to believe that anyone who wanted an SACD player, already had an SACD player and it was probably superior to the Oppo's performance in that regard. Oh well, it's just money, right?

jc

I don't think that the $500 price tag of the Oppo is hindering its sales. In fact it may be helping with sales to other audio manufacturers who are rebaging it or modifying it and reselling it. Plus, SACD players are still being sold (the $1,000 Marantz SA-8003 SACDP is selling very well), its kind of narrow minded to think that all the people that are interested in SACD already own one. Most people that buy Oppo's are into some type of audio vs people who buy Blu-Ray players from stores like Best Buy. I do believe that the new lower priced version will cut into the BD-83 sales though.

[Jack in Wilmington]

Alright, I want to buy a blu ray player and also use it as a CD player but only want to spend around 250$ preferably less, this Oppo vs. Samsung BD-1600 or Panny's DMP-BD60K ... I have Netflix and being able to stream would be nice but I already have a xbox 360 for that, anyways I can spend 200$ on Samsung or Panny and there appears to be not that much of a difference from the 300$ Oppo ... what am I missing?

Buydig.com and Beach Camera have the Panny for $129

[winston]

I've the non-backlit remote on the old up-converter upstairs and the backlit remote on the 83 downstairs. I much prefer the back-lit remote, it's bigger, better and easier to see in my ole age. Don't be so cheap... spring fer it

Worf

Worf" I'm cracking up reading your response!! so ill just "throw" the cornut back at ya and go get into my first OPPO" purchase.
LOL" man

[Worf101]

Worf" I'm cracking up reading your response!! so ill just "throw" the cornut back at ya and go get into my first OPPO" purchase.
LOL" man

Hey man, chill, the teaches watchin' LOL. Hope you love your Oppo as much as I love mine. And I LOVE your signature, shows class it does.

Worf

[Jim Clark]

its kind of narrow minded to think that all the people that are interested in SACD already own one. Most people that buy Oppo's are into some type of audio vs people who buy Blu-Ray players from stores like Best Buy. I do believe that the new lower priced version will cut into the BD-83 sales though.

Yep, that's me, narrow minded : )

I guess it's possible that DVD-A and SACD are gaining in popularity with new adopters climbing on board every day. I just haven't seen it. I haven't even seen it in this thread which I suspect accounts for Worf's O/P. I don't think that any of the 50 or so albums that I purchased in 2009 were even available in either format. Many of them where available on vinyl however. (insert double smiley here!) The market could very well be clamoring for a good quality Universal Player I just really haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist of course.

With regard to Worf's main post I don't think we should lose sight of what "made" Oppo in the first place, a very affordable DVDP that had outstanding video rendering. Top benchmark scores in a value priced machine is tough to beat. They further enamored themselves to the higher end buying segment by offering timely firmware updates that tweaked an already incredible machine. IMO, the Oppo 980 was one of the best HT values ever and as such it was nothing short of a phenomenon. That leaves me wondering why they didn't take the same approach here. The only answer that makes sense is money.

Regards,
jc

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

I actually agree with Worf and Jim. DVD-A and SACD are either dead, or using its last two breaths. I also believe the BR spec's renders both of these formats pretty useless for music applications. BR is a higher resolution format than both of these formats, and does not require a special hookup(a single HDMI cable will do the job). A continuing focus on these two formats is IMO a waste of precious component space and circuitry. With companies like 2L and Surround Recordings coming out with great classical music on the BR format it won't be long before the big record companies start eyeing(if they have not already) BR disc as a music format. I know Sony/BMG is definitely looking at it, and so are a few small European labels.

It just doesn't make any sense to me to sacrifice anything in favor of two nearly dead formats. It is backwards thinking IMO

[blackraven]

Jim, I did not mean to say that you are narrow minded just that view was. I didn't mean to insult you.

[Worf101]

This has been a VERY informative thread. My head's kinda spinning because personally, I expected to be bull-rushed by DVD-A and SACD lovers attacking me for being behind the times. Once I bought my BDP-83 I tried to find DVD-A or SACD versions of albums I love enough to buy in a new format for the 3rd or 4th time like Santana's "Abraxas", Miles' "Kind of Blue" etc... didn't work, couldn't find em. So I have capabilities on my Oppo that I'll likely never get to use, so to me at least, it would make more sense not to have to pay for something I'll never need. Oppo felt differently.

I'm sure they'll come out with a better up-converter without the Audio formats but I couldn't wait for that. I'm glad I bought the BDP-83. Blu-Ray play back is top-notch and it up-conversion to me is well worth the list price. With me they've a customer for life, or until they're bought out and mangled.

Worf

[Jim Clark]

Jim, I did not mean to say that you are narrow minded just that view was. I didn't mean to insult you.

I knew that, hence the smiley : ) It was funny.

Plus I can be a bit opinionated.

We're definitely good so no worries at all.

jc

[BadAssJazz]

... or until they're bought out and mangled.

**Crosses Self**

Lord, please spare us (and Oppo) from this accursed Fate!!!!

"So sayeth the shepherd! So sayeth the flock!"

[harley .guy07]

I looked at the new bdp-80 but decided to pull the trigger on the 83. It just gets my vote due to the fact that the video quality is better and I have heard so many good things about using this player as a audio media transport so I decided the extra money was worth it and since I just bought a 46" samsung LED television I figured I would feed it with the best for the money plus once I find the DAC I want this will make a good transport as well.

[Worf101]

I looked at the new bdp-80 but decided to pull the trigger on the 83. It just gets my vote due to the fact that the video quality is better and I have heard so many good things about using this player as a audio media transport so I decided the extra money was worth it and since I just bought a 46" samsung LED television I figured I would feed it with the best for the money plus once I find the DAC I want this will make a good transport as well.

I for one, will be waiting to hear/see a review of all the new goodies you've just purchased. You're gonna give me what I want right? Hmmm? Hehhhh? Hmmmm?

Worf

[harley .guy07]

Sure will. I am waiting on the Oppo to get here. It should be here tomorrow so I can't speak on it yet but the Samsung LED tv is awesome. I have had my eye on the LED Samsung for quite some time and finally just went for it. the price was lower than it has been so I figured it was time. I will let you know how the oppo looks on my Samsung when I get it in and get it hooked up.

[harley .guy07]

My report back is great. I got the Oppo BDP-83 in Saturday and unpacking it revealed why they are superior products to others in their price class, just the way they box up the unit and cables and looking at the manual tells me that they care a little more for their product than other companies do. Then I hooked it up and the setup took a little while but it was easy as hell and after that I put my first blue ray disc in and wow, the picture is awesome and the analog outputs and processing is top notch and was a good thing since I am running them into my 6 channel input on my HTR that does not have processing for the new codecs. The unit works great with the Samsung LED tv and I believe it will make a great music transport as well and when I order my outboard DAC at some time I believe it will be a killer package.