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    Question Onkyo TX - SR607

    Hi,
    I have a question for someone who has or is using Onkyo TX-SR607. The previous owner of our house had a in-wall wiring throughout the house. However, he has 2 sets of red/black banana plugs with 2 rooms in each set.

    How do I connect these to my receiver? I just have one Zone2 and the banana plugs didn't go in. How do I connect it? What kind of plugs/connectors do I need?

    Please advise.

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    The TX-SR607 is designed to be connected with bare wire. The manual says to strip the end of the wire, insert it in the terminal and screw it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02audionoob
    The TX-SR607 is designed to be connected with bare wire. The manual says to strip the end of the wire, insert it in the terminal and screw it down.
    Thanks for your reply. Wow!! Now that's gonna be a challenge for me. The wiring is so complex that to remove the connectors and plug in the bare wire am gonna be very scared not to mess up the system :S

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    Is your system setup so you need to plug bananas into a wall outlet? Or are there wires coming out of the wall that have bananas on them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02audionoob
    Is your system setup so you need to plug bananas into a wall outlet? Or are there wires coming out of the wall that have bananas on them?
    Wires are coming out of the wall that have bananas on them. The wires are too thin for me to splice them. I used a splitter for 12AWG speaker wires but these are too thin. To make things more complicated, 2 rooms are in one set :$, and there are 2 sets of red/black plugs.

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    It sounds like you could cut the bananas off, strip the last half-inch of the wires and insert them in the receiver's speaker terminals. If you want to keep the bananas on, you might also be able to put a pin connector on the banana plug, like this...

    http://www.audiogear.com/cgi-bin/sho...&preadd=action

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02audionoob
    It sounds like you could cut the bananas off, strip the last half-inch of the wires and insert them in the receiver's speaker terminals. If you want to keep the bananas on, you might also be able to put a pin connector on the banana plug, like this...

    http://www.audiogear.com/cgi-bin/sho...&preadd=action
    You are super duper awesome ) Saved me tons of work and stress ) I was looking for something like this, but still learning all the names Thanks a bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by priince
    You are super duper awesome ) Saved me tons of work and stress ) I was looking for something like this, but still learning all the names Thanks a bunch.
    Glad I could help out. Now that you know the terms to search for, maybe you could find flexible pin connectors with banana receptacles, so they'll go in your speaker terminals even more easily than the ones I found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02audionoob
    Glad I could help out. Now that you know the terms to search for, maybe you could find flexible pin connectors with banana receptacles, so they'll go in your speaker terminals even more easily than the ones I found.
    So why would you like to make it difficult .. haha!! Kidding. Thanks though, that was a good idea.

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    So I have already spent 2-3 hours looking for a banana to pin connector (flexible) with no luck.

    Any help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by priince
    So I have already spent 2-3 hours looking for a banana to pin connector (flexible) with no luck.

    Any help?
    Come to think of it, I think I'd cut the banana plugs off and strip the last half-inch of the wire. Is there any reason you couldn't do that? You could always put the banana plugs back on, later.

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    If you want flexible connectors, these are what you need.

    http://www.wildwestelectronics.net/m...ii-127758.html

    But the ones that Noob posted will do just fine.
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    I like the ones blackraven posted best, but you'd have to cut off your existing banana plugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven
    If you want flexible connectors, these are what you need.

    http://www.wildwestelectronics.net/m...ii-127758.html

    But the ones that Noob posted will do just fine.
    I appreciate your help.

    @Audionoob - I can splice wires. Challenges for me are the wires are in-wall, very thin, and multiple. If I make a mistake I don't want to blow up the system or cut the wires too short to reach my receiver. Since I am doing it first time there are chances I might not get them spliced in one go.

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    What gauge wires are the speaker wires if they are too thin? I would consider running new wires if they are smaller than 16g and are long runs.

    If you are splicing, I would consider soldering them.
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
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    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    Based on your description, I'd bet I don't fully understand your situation. I'm talking about just removing the plugs from wires I understand to be hanging out of a wall outlet. The way I splice in the wall is just like installing a light fixture, like this picture...



    Can you show us what you have? Or do you think the pin connectors with the banana receptacles will do what you need?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02audionoob
    Based on your description, I'd bet I don't fully understand your situation. I'm talking about just removing the plugs from wires I understand to be hanging out of a wall outlet. The way I splice in the wall is just like installing a light fixture, like this picture...



    Can you show us what you have? Or do you think the pin connectors with the banana receptacles will do what you need?
    Probably I should have showed the pic. I will get it out tonight. The wires that run in-wall and come out to the entertainment rack are red, green, white, black in color covered by a grey insulation with banana plug terminals. I don't know what guage they are. Sorry for being so amateur
    Appreciate Audionoob and Blackraven for your patience.

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    Ahhh...bi-wire cable!


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    More like this.. closest to what I have..


    Now there are 2 of these.. and 4 banana plugs, 2 reds 2 blacks..

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    In bi-wiring, one speaker gets an entire set of four wires. Speakers that can be bi-wired have a pair of terminals for the highs and a pair for the lows. So you'd put the red and green on one pair and the white and blue on the other. When you don't bi-wire, you can just leave two of the four wires un-connected.

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