OK, now I'm pissed!

[markw]

Sorry to hear that Mark. You know that you and the misses are still welcome to stop by anytime to watch a little tube.

Thanks, we appreciate that. Maybe we could even watch your TV while we're there, too.

[markw]

We're hoping to move to Texas within the next year or so. that's when I wanna spring for a new, ginormous flat screen.

If I can get this fixed for < $200 - $250 and get a few more years out of it I would feel that it was a worthwhile investment. Even though it's prehistoric technology, it gave a great pic for an old SD CRT.

I've got a buddy (in PA) that does TV's professionally and he might be able to help out, but transporting that behemoth wll be a task! Gonna call him tonight and see what he says. I'm pretty good at describing problems in things like this (duh! no picture!) and I think he's got access to a symptomatic lookup database for common problems.

Just funnin wid ya, GM. We'll be out ther this summer. Never, ever feed me such a straight line, or was that a straight line in itself?

[Worf101]

Or in the air. My CRT just started losing it as well. I went the LCD route. It's expensive but hopefully you'll get something you'll really love in return.

Da Worfster

[GMichael]

Just funnin wid ya, GM. We'll be out ther this summer. Never, ever feed me such a straight line, or was that a straight line in itself?

I feed these things out in hopes that they will spark laughter one way or another.
Your straight line was very nice too.

[pixelthis]

We're hoping to move to Texas within the next year or so. that's when I wanna spring for a new, ginormous flat screen.

If I can get this fixed for < $200 - $250 and get a few more years out of it I would feel that it was a worthwhile investment. Even though it's prehistoric technology, it gave a great pic for an old SD CRT.

I've got a buddy (in PA) that does TV's professionally and he might be able to help out, but transporting that behemoth wll be a task! Gonna call him tonight and see what he says. I'm pretty good at describing problems in things like this (duh! no picture!) and I think he's got access to a symptomatic lookup database for common problems.

Just funnin wid ya, GM. We'll be out ther this summer. Never, ever feed me such a straight line, or was that a straight line in itself?

you're TV is DEAD.
You have trouble with your video proc, the only thing left is that little character generator
that puts info on the screen.
THE TUBE IS EIGHT YEARS OLD, it will cost minimum 300 bucks to fix..
You can buy a 32in 16:9 HD set for under five hundred.
DO THE MATH.
And heres something else to consider.
The industry concentrated on reliable long lasting stuff that you throw away when it breaks
because of an interesting phenom whereby changing a part in a electronic device
causes something else to fail.
That new part will be up to spec, but the rest of the set wont be
So six months to a year down the road something else will break.
Also engineers try their best to design a device so that everything wears out at once.
Like Richard Pryor said in silver streak...
PAY THE MAN

[markw]

you're TV is DEAD.
You have trouble with your video proc, the only thing left is that little character generator
that puts info on the screen.
THE TUBE IS EIGHT YEARS OLD, it will cost minimum 300 bucks to fix..
You can buy a 32in 16:9 HD set for under five hundred.
DO THE MATH.
And heres something else to consider.
The industry concentrated on reliable long lasting stuff that you throw away when it breaks
because of an interesting phenom whereby changing a part in a electronic device
causes something else to fail.
That new part will be up to spec, but the rest of the set wont be
So six months to a year down the road something else will break.
Also engineers try their best to design a device so that everything wears out at once.
Like Richard Pryor said in silver streak...
PAY THE MAN

But, before pronouncing final rights, do you mind if I let a buddy I've known since 1963 who repairs these for a living take a peek at it? We've been doing each other little "courtsies" for about 45 years so far.

Plus, to get the same "visual impact"* of this 32" 4:3 unit, I'll have to spring for a 42" 16:9 set.

* my term for getting a picture in a 16:9 set that's the same height as a 4:3 set.

[pixelthis]

But, before pronouncing final rights, do you mind if I let a buddy I've known since 1963 who repairs these for a living take a peek at it? We've been doing each other little "courtsies" for about 45 years so far.

Plus, to get the same "visual impact"* of this 32" 4:3 unit, I'll have to spring for a 42" 16:9 set.

* my term for getting a picture in a 16:9 set that's the same height as a 4:3 set.

A "37" 16:9 is generally considered the "replacement for a 32 in 4:3 dino.
ANYWAY you can get a 42 for a grand or cheaper if you look.
Have your "guy" look at this set, I am pretty sure he will agree with me.
BTW, have you tried slamming the cabinet?
Works wonders sometimes.
But your tube IS working, as is your high voltage power supply, both big ticket items

[Rich-n-Texas]

you're TV is DEAD.
You have trouble with your video proc, the only thing left is that little character generator
that puts info on the screen.
THE TUBE IS EIGHT YEARS OLD, it will cost minimum 300 bucks to fix..
You can buy a 32in 16:9 HD set for under five hundred.
DO THE MATH.
And heres something else to consider.
The industry concentrated on reliable long lasting stuff that you throw away when it breaks
because of an interesting phenom whereby changing a part in a electronic device
causes something else to fail.
That new part will be up to spec, but the rest of the set wont be
So six months to a year down the road something else will break.
Also engineers try their best to design a device so that everything wears out at once.
Like Richard Pryor said in silver streak...
PAY THE MAN

They do WHAT? So you're saying they design a set so a carbon resistor will wear out at the same time an op amp does? Good grief! You were a cop, now you're a security guard in a hospital, but you know for a fact that all the components in a TV are (as best as the engineers can do) designed to wear out at the same time? You're kooky!

[pixelthis]

They do WHAT? So you're saying they design a set so a carbon resistor will wear out at the same time an op amp does? Good grief! You were a cop, now you're a security guard in a hospital, but you know for a fact that all the components in a TV are (as best as the engineers can do) designed to wear out at the same time? You're kooky!

what the FRICK do you do at TI?
Change out light bulbs?
You know absolutely NOTHING about putting a modern industrial device together.
Marketing, right? You're one of the useless eaters?
ITS industrial engineering 101, when you design something, be it a 747 or a four slot toaster, you engineer it to last a certain time.
If a part of that device lasts longer, then you're wasting money, because it will still have LIFE left when you throw away the device.
So you get a cheaper part, one that will last about as long as the rest of the device.
the JAPANESE , with the most modern equipment, are best at this.
They design their cars to last ten years.
When a japanese car starts to wear out everything wears out at once.
Whenever anything is built it is first designed, and a major part of that design is testing every part to see how long they last.
Its not perfect, but you seldom find a part in a discarded piece of gear with much more life in it.
the TV mentioned by op in this thread is eight years OLD, guarentee ya if he gets it fixed
something else will break, either because of changed electrical values, or because the set is coming close to its designed life(probably ten years, common for tv sets).
ADD to the fact that its obsolete and its a no brainer to toss it.
As for waiting for 16:9 widescreen tv to become prevalent, hate to break the seal on your
time capsule to tell ya, but that is pretty much the case already
And for whatever 4:3 material left, streach mode or normal for purists is available.
But these days its mostly wide screen.
BASEBALL, a local newscast, just about all of primetime, its all wide these days

[GMichael]

what the FRICK do you do at TI?
Change out light bulbs?
You know absolutely NOTHING about putting a modern industrial device together.
Marketing, right? You're one of the useless eaters?
ITS industrial engineering 101, when you design something, be it a 747 or a four slot toaster, you engineer it to last a certain time.
If a part of that device lasts longer, then you're wasting money, because it will still have LIFE left when you throw away the device.
So you get a cheaper part, one that will last about as long as the rest of the device.
the JAPANESE , with the most modern equipment, are best at this.
They design their cars to last ten years.
When a japanese car starts to wear out everything wears out at once.
Whenever anything is built it is first designed, and a major part of that design is testing every part to see how long they last.
Its not perfect, but you seldom find a part in a discarded piece of gear with much more life in it.
the TV mentioned by op in this thread is eight years OLD, guarentee ya if he gets it fixed
something else will break, either because of changed electrical values, or because the set is coming close to its designed life(probably ten years, common for tv sets).
ADD to the fact that its obsolete and its a no brainer to toss it.
As for waiting for 16:9 widescreen tv to become prevalent, hate to break the seal on your
time capsule to tell ya, but that is pretty much the case already
And for whatever 4:3 material left, streach mode or normal for purists is available.
But these days its mostly wide screen.
BASEBALL, a local newscast, just about all of primetime, its all wide these days

You must work for General Motors.

[JSE]

We're hoping to move to Texas within the next year or so.

That's Rich and I's territory! We must prepare.

[GMichael]

That's Rich and I's territory! We must prepare.

Time to fire up the BBQ.

[Rich-n-Texas]

That's Rich and I's territory! We must prepare.

From what he's told me he'll be living about halfway between the two of us JSE. We'll be able to fire shots across his bow from almost equal distances.

[GMichael]

Thanks, we appreciate that. Maybe we could even watch your TV while we're there, too.

We've made a few changes sinse last time. New speakers upstairs. The basement system is up & running (so no AM radio this time).