Yah definetly not looking for the best of the best, but darn good is always an option. I will have to check out the Pioneer also.

I know one of the big things boils down to all this video stuff. I know that most of these receivers are going to sound good, because I don't think the audio part are all the different. I think it is all this video out stuff that is gets in the way. I started a discussion on another board which did not go very far, but it was in regards to should just get a really good audio receiver and then find an upscaling type box when you go HDTV and such???

Either way a lot to think about.