My turn... NEW TOY!

[PeruvianSkies]

Thats really funny.
I think the main problem is I threaten your ego.
I have been doing this sort of thing for four decades, and have forgotten more about this stuff than you will probably know, and you know that, you really do.
Thats the problem with coming to a new site, people think you're a newborn because
you just started posting.
Well, I took several of your precious CRT televisions apart and put them back together,
IN THE 1970'S.
The precursor to those "great" pioneer receivers you talk about, the SX- series, they were made before Pioneer sold out to the mass market. The stuff they put out today looks like toys by comparison. They use IC chips instead of discrete componets whenever possibe,
much like Sony does. This is called "progress".
I have seen dozens of so called "formats" come and go, and have gotten to where I can tell which will stay, and which will go. This is financial preservation, you get tired of shelling out money for stuff that wont be around too long, its this experience, hard won,
which shows me just what will be gone in a few years.
The moon landing is history for you, I watched it live, I was 12 years old.
And some of the stuff I say is "ignorant" to you just because you don't understand
enough to know what I'm talking about, and thats YOUR problem
As for "troll" behaviour well, YOU'RE the one who keeps attacking ME, I only respond
to your drivel, which is plentifull.
You think the secret of a great "HT" is shelling out a ton of money, well, I could put together a better system than your uninspired, poorly integrated junk with my milk money
I just wish someone would change your diaper, might improve your disposition

Again, you are making an opinion about what I have without knowing anything about it. You trash talk my stuff, yet you don't even post pictures of what you have, so everyone just assumes what you have is true, which if it is...so what. You haven't even heard my system...so what do you know about it? Nor do you know how hard I've worked for what I have and made investments into it, but if you want to write it off, so be it, you are the fool for judging something without hearing it. Just typical. You think that just because you are older, that you know everything and that makes you a bigger fool than you think. A wise-man is willing to accept the things that he doesn't know in an attempt to gain knowledge from the areas that he knows nothing about. A fool thinks he's wise by not accepting the things that he knows nothing about and therefore only thinks that he knows everything because he hasn't accepted the fact that there is more to learn.

[pixelthis]

Again, you are making an opinion about what I have without knowing anything about it. You trash talk my stuff, yet you don't even post pictures of what you have, so everyone just assumes what you have is true, which if it is...so what. You haven't even heard my system...so what do you know about it? Nor do you know how hard I've worked for what I have and made investments into it, but if you want to write it off, so be it, you are the fool for judging something without hearing it. Just typical. You think that just because you are older, that you know everything and that makes you a bigger fool than you think. A wise-man is willing to accept the things that he doesn't know in an attempt to gain knowledge from the areas that he knows nothing about. A fool thinks he's wise by not accepting the things that he knows nothing about and therefore only thinks that he knows everything because he hasn't accepted the fact that there is more to learn.

Whatever.
I do know that I KNOW BUT A FRACTION OF WHAT I CAN KNOW about audio, video
or life.
And that fraction is a great deal more than you will ever possess.
And when I finish refurbing my rather modest set of gear, my "kit" as the English refer to it,
I promise you will see pictures

[PeruvianSkies]

Whatever.
I do know that I KNOW BUT A FRACTION OF WHAT I CAN KNOW about audio, video
or life.
And that fraction is a great deal more than you will ever possess.
And when I finish refurbing my rather modest set of gear, my "kit" as the English refer to it,
I promise you will see pictures

Still doesn't change the fact that you are a troll. Interesting how you think that I have this 'ego' when in fact you happen to be the one forming opinions and down-talking my stuff when you know nothing about it, you have no direct experience with my equipment nor do you sit and listen to it, so how can you form a proper opinion about it? Your experience alone doesn't qualify in this case, because every setup is different and making generalizations about what I have and thinking that it's "uninspired, poorly integrated junk" only shows just how ignorant you are to the world of HiFi.

[PeruvianSkies]

It's taking you forever to type your response, must be a good one!

[pixelthis]

Still doesn't change the fact that you are a troll. Interesting how you think that I have this 'ego' when in fact you happen to be the one forming opinions and down-talking my stuff when you know nothing about it, you have no direct experience with my equipment nor do you sit and listen to it, so how can you form a proper opinion about it? Your experience alone doesn't qualify in this case, because every setup is different and making generalizations about what I have and thinking that it's "uninspired, poorly integrated junk" only shows just how ignorant you are to the world of HiFi.

You see, thats your problem, you don't know ME.
Maybe your stuff is the best sounding thing since gabriels horn, but after a dozen or so
receivers of various types,(including TWO pioneers, one I found in a dumpster) three or four different turntables, god knows how many cassette, SVHS, laserdisc, DVD, CD,
players and so on, and speakers, GOD, I have had as many as three complete sets of surround at once. Started with Realistics optimus in the seventies when I was 15.
My "first" surround piece of gear was a breadboarded thing using resistors, seperated the difference information and fed it to amps, if I remember correctly.
Theres nothing new under the sun, your stuff uses the same class A or AB amps, if its any good the componets are discrete, your toshiba CRT is the same 30in hdtv that Samsung turns out for a half dozen different companies, I had the Samsung tau version,
nice if obsolete CRT tech. Since Toshiba cheapens everything to save cash I imagine your version isn't quite as good as mine.
And your PSB speakers came out of the same huge Canadian speaker industry as half a dozen others, there are differences but they are slight.
You see, electronics companies, in order to save money and gain economies of scale,
started working together and consolidating decades ago.
A lot of stuff is similar because its the SAME, the company just gives the specs they want and a few cosmetic features are added, the rest is marketing.
Your PSB is slightly better than Axioms, and paradigm is "better than your psb",
and since I have heard paradigms I dont think you have anything to brag about.
Sorry.
GM and other car companies started this type of manufacturing and marketing decades
ago, got busted awhile back for "badge engineering " they called it, selling what basically was Chevy as a Cadillac
Well, manufacturers today are basically doing the same thing.
There are a few small companies that survive, but most have been taken over, and what was once something original is now just more of the same mass marketed stuff.
Kinda like invasion of the body snatchers, except with audio/HT gear
Just because you paid a lot for your gear doesn't mean they paid a lot making it.
And thats just one of many things I know that you don't.
Oh, and I had three pioneer receivers if you count my first, a realistic model from the "shack", bought there because even then I knew that Pioneer made their receivers,
and they cost less. I knew that back then, you still don't know it.
BTW Keystone beer is the same as Coors, they just take it off the bottom of the vat,
kinda like Millers takes "milwalkees best" off of the bottom of their vats.
Iguess you stuff is somewhere in the middle of the vat

[PeruvianSkies]

You see, thats your problem, you don't know ME.
Maybe your stuff is the best sounding thing since gabriels horn, but after a dozen or so
receivers of various types,(including TWO pioneers, one I found in a dumpster) three or four different turntables, god knows how many cassette, SVHS, laserdisc, DVD, CD,
players and so on, and speakers, GOD, I have had as many as three complete sets of surround at once. Started with Realistics optimus in the seventies when I was 15.
My "first" surround piece of gear was a breadboarded thing using resistors, seperated the difference information and fed it to amps, if I remember correctly.
Theres nothing new under the sun, your stuff uses the same class A or AB amps, if its any good the componets are discrete, your toshiba CRT is the same 30in hdtv that Samsung turns out for a half dozen different companies, I had the Samsung tau version,
nice if obsolete CRT tech. Since Toshiba cheapens everything to save cash I imagine your version isn't quite as good as mine.
And your PSB speakers came out of the same huge Canadian speaker industry as half a dozen others, there are differences but they are slight.
You see, electronics companies, in order to save money and gain economies of scale,
started working together and consolidating decades ago.
A lot of stuff is similar because its the SAME, the company just gives the specs they want and a few cosmetic features are added, the rest is marketing.
Your PSB is slightly better than Axioms, and paradigm is "better than your psb",
and since I have heard paradigms I dont think you have anything to brag about.
Sorry.
GM and other car companies started this type of manufacturing and marketing decades
ago, got busted awhile back for "badge engineering " they called it, selling what basically was Chevy as a Cadillac
Well, manufacturers today are basically doing the same thing.
There are a few small companies that survive, but most have been taken over, and what was once something original is now just more of the same mass marketed stuff.
Kinda like invasion of the body snatchers, except with audio/HT gear
Just because you paid a lot for your gear doesn't mean they paid a lot making it.
And thats just one of many things I know that you don't.
Oh, and I had three pioneer receivers if you count my first, a realistic model from the "shack", bought there because even then I knew that Pioneer made their receivers,
and they cost less. I knew that back then, you still don't know it.
BTW Keystone beer is the same as Coors, they just take it off the bottom of the vat,
kinda like Millers takes "milwalkees best" off of the bottom of their vats.
Iguess you stuff is somewhere in the middle of the vat

Car companies and beer....wow, you really just don't have a clue, which is why you revert to senseless babble and try to related audio to cars and beer, it's just gibberish. You seriously think that Paradigm makes a speaker that rivals the PSB Platinums? Really? Maybe they do, I'd be curious to find out. I've heard just about every speaker they make, but never did a side by side with the Platinums, I can tell you that the Stratus Gold's were definitely superior to the Paradigms and Definitive and B&W's that were in the showroom when I demoed a set of them. I can also tell you that the Platinums are superior to the Stratus line, so I doubt that Paradigm can come close, but again....maybe so.

So what's the name of the factory where my speakers came from ?

I could care less what you think of my TV. I bought it on sale, I don't claim to have a great TV, it gets the job done for now, I would much rather wait and make a good decision once the technology develops and prices come down for a better TV or projection system.

Ok, so now you are saying the PSB is 'slightly' better than Axiom, which means you are going against what you said before, which is that they are the same.

It took you about a half-hour to write your response...are you a really slow typer or just a slow thinker? Or both?

[pixelthis]

Car companies and beer....wow, you really just don't have a clue, which is why you revert to senseless babble and try to related audio to cars and beer, it's just gibberish. You seriously think that Paradigm makes a speaker that rivals the PSB Platinums? Really? Maybe they do, I'd be curious to find out. I've heard just about every speaker they make, but never did a side by side with the Platinums, I can tell you that the Stratus Gold's were definitely superior to the Paradigms and Definitive and B&W's that were in the showroom when I demoed a set of them. I can also tell you that the Platinums are superior to the Stratus line, so I doubt that Paradigm can come close, but again....maybe so.

So what's the name of the factory where my speakers came from ?

I could care less what you think of my TV. I bought it on sale, I don't claim to have a great TV, it gets the job done for now, I would much rather wait and make a good decision once the technology develops and prices come down for a better TV or projection system.

Ok, so now you are saying the PSB is 'slightly' better than Axiom, which means you are going against what you said before, which is that they are the same.

It took you about a half-hour to write your response...are you a really slow typer or just a slow thinker? Or both?

I have a half a dozen browsers going right now, squashing a bug every once in awhile is low priority.
Look at the driver complement on those two pictures you posted of Axioms and PSB.
Its IDENTICAL, except one PSB driver is bigger, and PSB uses soft cone tweeters.
Thats it.
As for your TV I have given TOSHIBA several oportunities, and everything I ever nought from them broke or underperformed. A Toshiba DVd player was the only dvd player I ever had that had banding on the picture, and wouldn't play DTS tracks EVER.
Considering that you're Toshiba was probably built by someone else maybe you'll have better luck with it.
But I doubt it

[PeruvianSkies]

I have a half a dozen browsers going right now, squashing a bug every once in awhile is low priority.
Look at the driver complement on those two pictures you posted of Axioms and PSB.
Its IDENTICAL, except one PSB driver is bigger, and PSB uses soft cone tweeters.
Thats it.
As for your TV I have given TOSHIBA several oportunities, and everything I ever nought from them broke or underperformed. A Toshiba DVd player was the only dvd player I ever had that had banding on the picture, and wouldn't play DTS tracks EVER.
Considering that you're Toshiba was probably built by someone else maybe you'll have better luck with it.
But I doubt it

Oh ok, I get it. So because two speakers look identical on the outside than they MUST sound the same. That's about the most amateurish assumption to ever make in the world of audio. Thousands of speakers look alike, the designs are not that radically different, but the technology below them is what makes them different.