Just one more reason Bose blows!

[bhd812]

well I had a few bose sound systems in my time, I know that they are not the best but there way better then any sony audio product ever made (not thier tv,dvd,cd players,maybe vcr)


i think if someone wants to buy bose let them, its like buying a papsi..your paying for the marketing thats all.

and the marketing says they sound great so people think they sound amazing.

my dads friend was over and asked me about my mirage om-9's i told him that they sound like crap and they were very cheap. after hearing them he looks at me and said they do sound like crap and bose is way better. now if i told him the real deal he would of thought they were great.

its all marketing people, why get so mad about it???

I was happy with my bose systems that i had, they sucked compared to others but they still sounded better then klh,sony,jbl,and other crap best buy sells.

[Woochifer]

well I had a few bose sound systems in my time, I know that they are not the best but there way better then any sony audio product ever made (not thier tv,dvd,cd players,maybe vcr)


i think if someone wants to buy bose let them, its like buying a papsi..your paying for the marketing thats all.

and the marketing says they sound great so people think they sound amazing.

my dads friend was over and asked me about my mirage om-9's i told him that they sound like crap and they were very cheap. after hearing them he looks at me and said they do sound like crap and bose is way better. now if i told him the real deal he would of thought they were great.

its all marketing people, why get so mad about it???

I was happy with my bose systems that i had, they sucked compared to others but they still sounded better then klh,sony,jbl,and other crap best buy sells.

Uh, not exactly. If you're happy with your Bose systems, then fine be happy with them. However, your cola analogy's not exactly apt because Pepsi does not cost three or four times more than Coke. What really sets Bose apart is the price premium that they add to their proucts relative to the quality and performance that the customer gets. I mean, if Pepsi cost $4 a can, we would call it what it is -- a ripoff. Same deal with Bose's Lifestyle, Wave Radio, Acoustimass, and Wave Music systems. They're not bad products per se, but compared to comparable products in their same price range, they're pretty much playing from way behind.

The KLH or JBL systems that Best Buy sells are indeed inferior to the Bose Lifestyle systems, but then again the KLH system sells for about $300, while the Lifestyle 35 sells for $2,900. Unlike Bose, those other companies are not pretending that their products represent something that they are not. If the Lifestyle 35 sold for $300, it would be a bargain, but at $2,900 it's junk. If people want to get taken in by marketing, that's fine. But, lack of due diligence for an investment of that magnitude is certainly not something I would brag about (as quite a few friends of mine who've bought Bose in the past have done).

[bhd812]

lack of due diligence for an investment of that magnitude is certainly not something I would brag about (as quite a few friends of mine who've bought Bose in the past have done).

this I agree with, the reason why people buy bose is cause the havent heard of jamo, energy, definitive, witchcraft, blah blah blah.
these people dont do research on audio bor do they know about audioreview.com. also most of these people are two lazy or to cheap to buy a home audio magazine to see the other company ads.

when I bought my bose system I was 14 and we didnt have the internet nor did I know what I know today. but thats ok cause I learned and reseached.

I also think that harmonkardon, denon, and marantez plays the bose role a little. not as much but in thier lower price models you dont get to much as say other companies. they sound great and so does bose but again not compared to others in their price range.

this is why I laugh at anyone who buys one of these receivers on the lower price range. they spending way to much to get what they got.
I bought a few years back, a denon 2803 or 3803 or something like that, it cost around 1100i$h. then I tried the onkyo 787 that had more....loads more and blew the denon out of the water. the onkyo cost $800.
but everyone says onkyo sucks blah blah blah. well okyo had a service center a few blocks down from me, so anyway i think you get my point.

and I was comparing a pepsi with a generic name...not coke.

[Woochifer]

this I agree with, the reason why people buy bose is cause the havent heard of jamo, energy, definitive, witchcraft, blah blah blah.
these people dont do research on audio bor do they know about audioreview.com. also most of these people are two lazy or to cheap to buy a home audio magazine to see the other company ads.

when I bought my bose system I was 14 and we didnt have the internet nor did I know what I know today. but thats ok cause I learned and reseached.

I also think that harmonkardon, denon, and marantez plays the bose role a little. not as much but in thier lower price models you dont get to much as say other companies. they sound great and so does bose but again not compared to others in their price range.

this is why I laugh at anyone who buys one of these receivers on the lower price range. they spending way to much to get what they got.
I bought a few years back, a denon 2803 or 3803 or something like that, it cost around 1100i$h. then I tried the onkyo 787 that had more....loads more and blew the denon out of the water. the onkyo cost $800.
but everyone says onkyo sucks blah blah blah. well okyo had a service center a few blocks down from me, so anyway i think you get my point.

and I was comparing a pepsi with a generic name...not coke.

Well, in general when you're comparing receivers, there are a LOT of variables that you need to account for before you can definitively state that one receiver blew another one "out of the water." Are you talking about sound quality, build quality, features, connectivity, reliability? Were these comparisons done using identical speakers, in the same room, and using identical default settings? Just making an observation with different speakers, in different rooms, and listenings done at different times have minimal comparative value. The differences between receivers in more controlled conditions that I've observed are more subtle than obvious.

Are you saying that entry level receivers from those companies aren't worth purchasing, while their midlevel units are? Comparing them to Bose is a bit off target, considering that I usually regard Bose's systems overpriced threefold. A $300 entry level receiver from h/k, Marantz, or Denon is hardly a ripoff in that context.

I don't know who on this board says that Onkyo sucks, they're usually mentioned as one of the recommended brands. BTW, you say that you once OWNED a Denon 2803 or 3803, and swapped that out for the Onkyo 787? To say that Onkyo model "blew away" the Denon would be rather difficult since the model in question is more than three years old, and the Denons are relatively new. Care to clarify?

[markw]

Styling, convenience, and it fits unobtrousively in their living environment. As much as I hate to admit it, their top of the line system has a really kewl remote control. But AFAICT, it still ain't worth $3,500.

But, some people have money to burn and simply fall head over heels over the styling and wow factor. The fact it also produces music is a side effect. I like to call this stuff expensive "Audio Jewelery".

After all, Rolex doesn't keep better time than a Timex but people still love 'em.

[topspeed]

Is it me or does Aldo remind anyone else of TLADINY/Lexmark/Charles Howell III (or whatever it was)?

[Aldo WIngate]

It's probably you. What are these names to which you compare 'ole Aldo?

As usual, some knucklehead makes a post that has ZERO relevence to the topic at hand. Then again, Topspeed's jonny is in his hand!