JBL sound system multi surround!

[Rock789]

sweet!!!
I miss my 18" sub!!!
I shall have it back some day!!! (it is sitting at my parents basement for the time being...)

[emorphien]

I think 18" subs are in the realm of things I'm not in a big rush to get. I'd have to hear any particular 18" sub to believe it doesn't have some noticeable delay with certain material.

[Rock789]

I think 18" subs are in the realm of things I'm not in a big rush to get. I'd have to hear any particular 18" sub to believe it doesn't have some noticeable delay with certain material.

mine seemed to have a delay when I used it with my old prologic pioneer...
when I upgraded with the denon 2805, it was very tight and accurate!
best ht sub I have ever had!

[GMichael]

I think this thread made a left somewhere when I wasn't looking.
Maybe I zigged when I should have Zagged?

Nice set-up Brian. That's a lot of stuff man.

[SlumpBuster]

Back when I worked at a movie theater in high school and college, it was clearly apparent the the projectionists were a curious bunch. I don't know if Brainstorm is a curious fellow, but he does state that he is a former projectionist and this is definately a curious system.

Constructive critisisms:

I have to question the use of empty speaker cabinets and cardboard boxes as speaker stands. But it is efficient recycling.

Also, I've used that RadioShack mixer, and it almost certainly adds audible noise, although that may be minimal in a sub signal (assuming the crossover/low-pass is after the mixer).

I've been screwing around with EQs myself lately. I tried the el cheapo route with various eqs I had laying about. Couple of 7 band and 10 band models from the 80s. I have found that they are useless (Big suprise ) Too much noise (clearly audible on some) and not precise enough. You must use parametric eq, or a digital eq, or a quality analog eq with at least 31 bands to be at all effective. So I wonder about the efficacy of all those EQs. But lots o' modern AVRs include simple 7 band eqs for each channel, so YMMV.

What I like about systems like this:

They're Bonkers! But bonkers in a good way. Bonkers like a guy rockin' not one but two, three or more Pioneer and Akai reel to reels. Or a guy with a turntable with three arms. These systems include more gear than you can possibly use. But that is okay. I have more CDs and LPs than I could possibly listen to. And I only recently got over the "more gear than I can use" strain of the disease. Garbage pickers had a field day, although it really was all trash. The good stuff is still hidden in a back corner of my garage that my wife doesn't know about.

Yeah, I spent months of time and tons of money finishing my basement just to conceal wires and run new electrical. But, I have to admit that if I was left to my own devices, I'd probably have a snake pit of wires too.

On some other AV boards, systems like this are common. Here we seem to have a "cleaner" breed prevalent. But its nice to see some of these pop up every now and then. They are definately exhuberant.

Thanks for sharing Brainstorm.

[SlumpBuster]

Oh, and FWIW, you might want to check out rope lighting instead of christmas lights. Much nicer IMNSHO:
http://www.doityourself.com/stry/ropelighting

[yelhsa]

Constructive critisisms:

I have to question the use of empty speaker cabinets and cardboard boxes as speaker stands. But it is efficient recycling.

Also, I've used that RadioShack mixer, and it almost certainly adds audible noise, although that may be minimal in a sub signal (assuming the crossover/low-pass is after the mixer).

I've been screwing around with EQs myself lately. I tried the el cheapo route with various eqs I had laying about. Couple of 7 band and 10 band models from the 80s. I have found that they are useless (Big suprise ) Too much noise (clearly audible on some) and not precise enough. You must use parametric eq, or a digital eq, or a quality analog eq with at least 31 bands to be at all effective. So I wonder about the efficacy of all those EQs. But lots o' modern AVRs include simple 7 band eqs for each channel, so YMMV.

Just be ready for what’s coming. In his mind he is always right and everyone else doesn’t know what’s going on and that includes the engineers who mastered the audio on some of the DVDs he owns. Thus he will continue to argue. He’s been banned from other forums.

Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

[L.J.]

Just be ready for what’s coming. In his mind he is always right and everyone else doesn’t know what’s going on and that includes the engineers who mastered the audio on some of the DVDs he owns. Thus he will continue to argue. He’s been banned from other forums.

Hmmm......sounds like someone that used to hang around here

[Brainstorm]

Slump

1/3 octave I’m very aware of the differences thank you for bring it to my attention. As you know most of us around here aren’t made of money and “these things, be done delicately.” So when I get the time all the amps and EQ’s will be changed just to satisfy me alone.



The overall look and sound of Small Soldiers was brilliantly sharp and rich in colour with this region 2 DVD framed at 2.35:1 scope it’s one of my favorite aspect ratios that worked well with the look of the film.

Sound was top notch with this six-track Dolby stereo digital surround mix that worked very well with centre back. Good spacing of dialogue panning with a few Wilhelm Screams thrown in that made me laugh. LFE.1 was sparely used.

Jerry Goldsmith’s score was a delight to listen to which help to tie in well with the characters and some famous film scores like 2001 with a few songs like War by Frankie goes to Hollywood and Wannabe by Spice Girls and some cracking humour where the neighbourhood all goes to hell with "Chip Hazard" is commando leader voiced by (Tommy Lee Jones) who hunting down Gorgonites leader "Archer" voiced by (Frank Langella).

Extras look good with animated menus. An audio commentary session would have gone down well. Still it was good value for money and good viewing.

Picture 10/10
Sound 10/10
Overall 9/10

[SlumpBuster]

Yeah! That's Bonkers, Baby! Now give me a review of Kick Boxer 2: The Road Back, or Leonard Part 6, no, no... Give me a review of The Adventures of Pluto Nash. Just make sure its an irrelevant movie that nobody in their right mind would possible watch!

[emorphien]

Slump

1/3 octave I’m very aware of the differences thank you for bring it to my attention. As you know most of us around here aren’t made of money and “these things, be done delicately.” So when I get the time all the amps and EQ’s will be changed just to satisfy me alone.

Since I'm not made of money, I don't have 30 speakers. How much did your whole system cost you?

[Brainstorm]

Well the surround array and only the JBL control 1 surround array cost a cool £249. 95p dipolar and bipolar would have been around the same price for a good pair but then your only getting two pairs.

I’ve seen B&W costing nearly £600.00 well they can keep them at that price.

The fronts well I can pick them up for around £105.00 for the pair. Thou when I get the chance fronts might be changed over for large JBL matching of coarse cant do it with mismatching, can we.

The JBL 4645 well I can tell you but I’ll have to feed you to the Sarlacc?

[emorphien]

I mean what's the total cost of your system?

[basite]

SVI probably is so jaleous and depressed right now...

Those are alot of speakers dude!
and for the B&W's, we have a B&W stereo and surround setup, and the difference was definately worth the money...

Rock on...
Bert.

[yelhsa]

Yeah! That's Bonkers, Baby! Now give me a review of Kick Boxer 2: The Road Back, or Leonard Part 6, no, no... Give me a review of The Adventures of Pluto Nash. Just make sure its an irrelevant movie that nobody in their right mind would possible watch!

Guys, you are wasting you time.

He is on medication. In other words, he has a medical condition.

[emorphien]

He is on medication. In other words, he has a medical condition.

I'm wondering what his condition is.

He does kinda remind me of SVI.

[topspeed]

You're either single or have the world's most understanding wife.

Enjoy your rig .

[Brainstorm]

Just Rented Million Dollar Baby it was heartfelt and heart warming which left me in tears during the second half brilliant.

Clint Eastwood certainly knows how to make them these days Hilary Swank and Morgan Freeman where grand with great chemistry between them.

Framing in the 2.35:1 scope looked bright and sharply colourful with good focus all round.

Sound was warm with clear dialogue and good narration that carried the story along, surrounds worked well with (centre back) this helped to placed me inside the gym with good atmosphere, body punches where full and impacting even at 0db THX.

LFE.1 was used sparely while fronts use full range to pack a punch on the sub bass extension.

This is on the buy list.

Technical details

Certificate: 12

Region 2

Aspect ratio: scope 2.35:1 Panavision® (anamorphic enhanced)

Running time 127 minutes

Colour: Technicolor®

Cinema sound realise: 35mm Dolby Stereo (SR-D) type, dts SDDS

DVD sound realise: Dolby 5.1 with (split-surrounds)

Year of realise: 2005

DVD year of realise: 2005

Ratings

Picture 10/10

Sound 10/10

Overall rating 10/10

Presentational playback:

Fader: 0db THX reference level

Sound system: JBL

Sound indicator: Dolby 5.1

[topspeed]

Wait a sec...

Did Lexie bound off to Jolly 'ol England?

[Brainstorm]

Wait a sec...

Did Lexie bound off to Jolly 'ol England?

What? Who? Haven’t, a clue what you’re talking about must have the wrong thread?

[GMichael]

Wait a sec...

Did Lexie bound off to Jolly 'ol England?

I was thinking the same thing. But so far, NO CAPS.

[Brainstorm]

Are you talking about some other member who also lives in the United Kingdom, well I’m very pleased.

[GMichael]

Are you talking about some other member who also lives in the United Kingdom, well I’m very pleased.

Be careful going near the water cooler. Worf is looking upset today.

[emorphien]

Technical details

Certificate: 12

Region 2

Aspect ratio: scope 2.35:1 Panavision® (anamorphic enhanced)

Running time 127 minutes

Colour: Technicolor®

Cinema sound realise: 35mm Dolby Stereo (SR-D) type, dts SDDS

DVD sound realise: Dolby 5.1 with (split-surrounds)

Year of realise: 2005

DVD year of realise: 2005

Ratings

Picture 10/10

Sound 10/10

Overall rating 10/10

Presentational playback:

Fader: 0db THX reference level

Sound system: JBL

Sound indicator: Dolby 5.1

He is like SVI. Look at all the pointless tech spec babble he posts!

[PeruvianSkies]

Rediculous...

There is no way possible that SMALL SOLDIERS or MILLION DOLLAR BABY are pristine 10/10 picture or sound discs, even though they might be good, they are not reference quality and if they were, then what score would HD formats get on the same time? 10+?