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    Quote Originally Posted by noddin0ff
    TV just isn't worth $6K at any resolution.
    Remember, you are on a HOME THEATER forum. That means we have an interest in high PQ (picture quality). I understand if you are not interested in paying $6k for HOME THEATER PQ, but excuse me for saying, but you may be in the wrong forum. For a HT enthusist, $6k may be a bargain. It is all relative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    Remember, you are on a HOME THEATER forum. That means we have an interest in high PQ (picture quality). I understand if you are not interested in paying $6k for HOME THEATER PQ, but excuse me for saying, but you may be in the wrong forum. For a HT enthusist, $6k may be a bargain. It is all relative.

    Robert
    $6K
    divided by 365 days a year
    diveded by a conservative 5 years
    equals $3.287 per day of pure entertainment.

    Go to a movie:
    $10 a ticket times 2
    $5 a soda
    $5 for popcorn
    equals $30 for a few hours of entertainment

    Go to a game:
    $30 a ticket times 2 (these are the cheep seats)
    $5 a beer
    $4 a hot dog
    Oh please, add this one up for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    $6K
    divided by 365 days a year
    diveded by a conservative 5 years
    equals $3.287 per day of pure entertainment.

    Go to a movie:
    $10 a ticket times 2
    $5 a soda
    $5 for popcorn
    equals $30 for a few hours of entertainment

    Go to a game:
    $30 a ticket times 2 (these are the cheep seats)
    $5 a beer
    $4 a hot dog
    Oh please, add this one up for me.
    Careful there GM, you don't want to confuse people with the facts when their mind is already made-up! Seriously, great analogy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    It may not be worth $6k to you, but to Robert, and perhaps myself, it does....$6k is just the starting block.
    Well said Big Fella, I was just thinking how naive it would be to think $6k would get you much more than a quality (1080i) monitor bigger than 80", much less anything else ie, 5.1 sound, DVDP, speakers, wire/cabling, satelite, processor, sub, etc, etc, etc.......
    What I have always had a hard time understanding is why some people spend their time on a HOME THEATER forum, when there interest lies elsewhere. For instance, I have absolutely NO DESIRE for a DJ turntable setup, and personally I wouldn't spend $10 on one. I fully understand enthusist spend thousands of dollars on such set-ups (I knew a guy...ok?). But, you won't see me on a DJ-Turntable setup forum telling people how ridiculous it is to spend thousands of dollars on such set-ups!

    Let's face it, the HT arena is only getting bigger. More and more people are getting excited about it and spending mega-cash for it. HT is a hobby that gives many hours and years of enjoyment in return!
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Z
    Am I correct to assume the $5 or $10 extra per month for HD everyone is talking about is on top of your current cable/satellite cost?
    That would be correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by noddin0ff
    .....When DVD is HD I'll reconsider.
    Better get ready to cough-up some cash then. When you get a 1080i capable monitor and the HD DVDP and start buying those HD DVD'S that $6k budget you mentioned won't stretch too far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    Careful there GM, you don't want to confuse people with the facts when their mind is already made-up! Seriously, great analogy.Robert
    Thanks, I was in a rush to a meeting and didn't get to really finish what I was going to say. But the idea is there.


    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    What I have always had a hard time understanding is why some people spend their time on a HOME THEATER forum, when there interest lies elsewhere. For instance, I have absolutely NO DESIRE for a DJ turntable setup, and personally I wouldn't spend $10 on one. I fully understand enthusist spend thousands of dollars on such set-ups (I knew a guy...ok?). But, you won't see me on a DJ-Turntable setup forum telling people how ridiculous it is to spend thousands of dollars on such set-ups! Robert
    To each their own. Maybe it's just not his time for HT.

    But I don't always notice what catagory a post is in. I just check all of the ones I haven't read yet. And even if he did, it's his dime. I don't mind if he doesn't want HD yet, or ever.


    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    Let's face it, the HT arena is only getting bigger. More and more people are getting excited about it and spending mega-cash for it. HT is a hobby that gives many hours and years of enjoyment in return!That would be correct.Better get ready to cough-up some cash then. When you get a 1080i capable monitor and the HD DVDP and start buying those HD DVD'S that $6k budget you mentioned won't stretch too far!

    Robert
    I like it. I'll keep upgrading as my budget alows. HD DVD's will be a part of it someday, I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    What I have always had a hard time understanding is why some people spend their time on a HOME THEATER forum, when there interest lies elsewhere.
    Who said my interests aren't in HT? HD isn't the ONLY component of the HT experience. In fact, I'm very enthusiastic about HT and enjoy it very much with out HD. I have a hard time understanding why some people equate $$$ spent with interest, enthusiam, or ability to know what money buys.
    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    More and more people are getting excited about it and spending mega-cash for it...Better get ready to cough-up some cash then. When you get a 1080i capable monitor and the HD DVDP and start buying those HD DVD'S that $6k budget you mentioned won't stretch too far!
    Robert
    Ahhh! I see. How dumb of me to assume that HT was for the Everyman, now I see it's for the monied. Maybe we should have separate forums. One for people who invest over $10K for their hobbies and a second for those who spend under $10k, you know, for the people who have inferior enthusiasm for the hobby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noddin0ff
    Who said my interests aren't in HT? HD isn't the ONLY component of the HT experience. In fact, I'm very enthusiastic about HT and enjoy it very much with out HD. I have a hard time understanding why some people equate $$$ spent with interest, enthusiam, or ability to know what money buys.

    Ahhh! I see. How dumb of me to assume that HT was for the Everyman, now I see it's for the monied. Maybe we should have separate forums. One for people who invest over $10K for their hobbies and a second for those who spend under $10k, you know, for the people who have inferior enthusiasm for the hobby.

    Good pionts nod. Sorry If I suggested that you have no place here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noddin0ff
    Who said my interests aren't in HT? HD isn't the ONLY component of the HT experience. In fact, I'm very enthusiastic about HT and enjoy it very much with out HD. I have a hard time understanding why some people equate $$$ spent with interest, enthusiam, or ability to know what money buys.
    You are correct, It is only one component. Your opinion is as valid as anyone's on this forum, however when you po po on someone elses decision to spend $6k on just the video side of their setup, its not an opinion anymore, its a judgement. Uncool IMO.

    People with a huge interest in cars spend big bucks on cars. People who have computer interests, and desire the best spend big money on a faster, better computer. People who are REALLY into their hometheaters, and like the best, spend big money on their hometheaters. $6k doesn't even cover my speaker package, that is the level of enthusiasm that I put into my hometheater. Its not that I am bragging about how much money I spent on my system, but the level of quality I desire for me. Others could spend more, or less than I did based on their desires to reach their sonic goals.

    Ahhh! I see. How dumb of me to assume that HT was for the Everyman, now I see it's for the monied. Maybe we should have separate forums. One for people who invest over $10K for their hobbies and a second for those who spend under $10k, you know, for the people who have inferior enthusiasm for the hobby.
    Never understood why some folks have a penchant for being so drastic just to make a point. We have enough seperatism already(race and social class), we don't need anymore more reason to seperate ourselves. A man with a million dollar home can talk on the same house and garden forum as the guy with the $250,000.00 home. No need to introduce social and economic class to hometheater. Its about your personal level of investment(and that is what a hometheater is), not about who's pissing stream goes the furthest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    What I have always had a hard time understanding is why some people spend their time on a HOME THEATER forum, when there interest lies elsewhere. For instance, I have absolutely NO DESIRE for a DJ turntable setup, and personally I wouldn't spend $10 on one. I fully understand enthusist spend thousands of dollars on such set-ups (I knew a guy...ok?). But, you won't see me on a DJ-Turntable setup forum telling people how ridiculous it is to spend thousands of dollars on such set-ups!
    Keep in mind that we got a very wide range of interests populating this forum. Just because people have an interest in home theater does not mean that they want to spend $6k+ on a video monitor. For example, my interests have primarily been on audio side, and I've chosen to stand pat on the video side for a variety of reasons. For others, video is their primary focus, and they're fine with a HTIB or even a two-channel setup to handle the audio.

    I understand your enthusiasm for HD, but sometimes you get overly presumptuous about the reasons behind why people have not yet chosen to make the HD upgrade. For one thing, IMO every current approach to HDTV has at least one significant drawback, whether it's performance or price or size. By far the best HD playback that I've seen was with a calibrated direct view 16:9 CRT. Drawbacks are that direct view CRT HDTVs have limited screen size, the cabinets are bulky, and the TVs are very heavy. Rear projection is an economical way to get a large screen size, but has problems with limited viewing angle and not-so-great image quality on standard definition programming (like it or not, the vast majority of programming out there is not HD and will continue to be for at least the next few years). Plasma and LCD flat panels, and front projection also have their share of tradeoffs.

    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    Let's face it, the HT arena is only getting bigger. More and more people are getting excited about it and spending mega-cash for it. HT is a hobby that gives many hours and years of enjoyment in return!That would be correct.Better get ready to cough-up some cash then. When you get a 1080i capable monitor and the HD DVDP and start buying those HD DVD'S that $6k budget you mentioned won't stretch too far!
    And as with any other consumer electronics category moving over from niche status to the mass market, the prices on HD and home theater gear in general continues to tumble. Just on the HDTV side, the prices on comparable flat panel sets have gone down by about 40% just in the past 12 months. The 50" LG plasma that my parents bought last week for $5k had a list price of $8k back in May.

    People who always want to be an early adoptor pay for that privilege (and subsidize those consumers who are fine with waiting a year or two before jumping on a new format bandwagon). I'm fine with coughing up the cash for my HT gear, but I'm equally fine with waiting things out so that I can cough up less of it. I think it's premature to talk about the HD disc players, considering that they're not even out yet and we don't know how invasive the copy protection restrictions will be on the production units (check around the internet and you'll see how much the copy protection issues have dampened the enthusiasm for HD-DVD and Blu-ray). With Blu-ray especially, IMO it would be foolish to buy those players right when they come out considering that the PS3 due out in spring 2006 will have Blu-ray playback built in, and will have to compete on price with the $400 Xbox 360.

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    Rear Projector HDTVs

    Personally I feel that the bulky size & weight of rear projector widescreenTV's should not be considered a negative basically if you have a normal sized living room or family room as it fits in fine in these rooms and the weight is irrelevant as it will be delivered to you anyway and be on wheels anyway if you want to then move it around your room. Obviously, if you can afford an LCD or Plasma set the same screen size, buy that, but if money is limited, you can get a really good rear projector 42"-55" for $900-$1200 or so.

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    Paid $957 for my 51" Hitachi,tax and everything, during a local Sears morning after Thanksgiving sale. Initially thought I had ordered the F510 but actually got the F710(even better). I havnt had the chance to hook mine up yet since I am waiting to move but my sister and brother in law made the same purchase and I have played with theirs and I am VERY pleased with the picture quality.

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