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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
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    To a certain point room size is important. I have 7.1 systems in all of my rooms in all of my houses except one room which is a two channel room(too small for even 4 channel). I have 7.1 in rooms as small as 12x15x10, and it sounded terrific. I would say that anyone who says that 5.1 is enough(based on sound not space), has not heard a properly set up and calibrated 7.1 system.

    In terms of speaker positioning, I just follow the guidelines I use in the studio when I am mixing home theater soundtracks. 5.1 is great, but having a solid back wall image that envelopes you is much better IMO.
    BETTER for the speaker industry, IMHO.
    7.1 is "nice", but so is a Mustang COBRA, but a GT is cheaper
    and works about as well.
    Considering most don't even have 5.1(and sound bars is increasing that number) lets sell the basic goodness of 5.1
    before getting into the system that ate the HT room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis View Post
    BETTER for the speaker industry, IMHO.
    7.1 is "nice", but so is a Mustang COBRA, but a GT is cheaper
    and works about as well.
    Considering most don't even have 5.1(and sound bars is increasing that number) lets sell the basic goodness of 5.1
    before getting into the system that ate the HT room.
    I see your point for the average Joe, but the question was pointed in here at us that have been baptized into HT already. It would be a mute point to ask such a question to the general public when we all know that HT is no where, where it should be after 20 years of consumer level access to the masses.


    So since we are the ones the troll sites as this to gain and share information about audio and HT, we would be the ones that would still buy that Cobra, because we understand the difference and the value of owning a Cobra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by recoveryone View Post
    I see your point for the average Joe, but the question was pointed in here at us that have been baptized into HT already. It would be a mute point to ask such a question to the general public when we all know that HT is no where, where it should be after 20 years of consumer level access to the masses.


    So since we are the ones the troll sites as this to gain and share information about audio and HT, we would be the ones that would still buy that Cobra, because we understand the difference and the value of owning a Cobra.
    A GOOD point, but consider, would that diff be appreciated
    or would it leave a sour taste in the mouth of the purchaser?
    ITS EASY to tell the diff between the fake surround systems out there and a true discrete 5.1 system, but the diff between that and 7.1 is a lot more subtle, especially to the newbie.
    If those with experience don't always see the difference, would it be a waste to sell it to those who probably just came from the soundbar/htib camp?
    7.1 WAS a hassle to install, and overall just produced a distracting background noise. You get more bang for the buck
    with 5.1, and IMHO, that is the way to go with most.
    5.1 is an easier sell, after using it for awhile and developing
    a feel for it, then is the time for an enthusiast to spring for the more sophisticated rig ...IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis View Post
    A GOOD point, but consider, would that diff be appreciated
    or would it leave a sour taste in the mouth of the purchaser?
    ITS EASY to tell the diff between the fake surround systems out there and a true discrete 5.1 system, but the diff between that and 7.1 is a lot more subtle, especially to the newbie.
    If those with experience don't always see the difference, would it be a waste to sell it to those who probably just came from the soundbar/htib camp?
    7.1 WAS a hassle to install, and overall just produced a distracting background noise. You get more bang for the buck
    with 5.1, and IMHO, that is the way to go with most.
    5.1 is an easier sell, after using it for awhile and developing
    a feel for it, then is the time for an enthusiast to spring for the more sophisticated rig ...IMHO.
    Wow, you have just proven you cannot really distinguish actual spatial information from noise. Discrete 7.1 actually provides additional spatial information to the rear wall channels. DPL IIx takes information from the left right side surrounds and moves it rearward to the back channels. Neither way adds noise to the original signal.

    Pix, you need your ears checked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis View Post
    BETTER for the speaker industry, IMHO.
    7.1 is "nice", but so is a Mustang COBRA, but a GT is cheaper
    and works about as well.
    Considering most don't even have 5.1(and sound bars is increasing that number) lets sell the basic goodness of 5.1
    before getting into the system that ate the HT room.
    According to polls done with A/V installers and the general public, sound bars are not going into people's primary viewing areas. They are going into kitchens, bedrooms, and other secondary viewing areas.

    It does not hurt to provide context to statements.
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